DH facing driving ban due to speeding- any ideas on wait times?

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Hoping someone can help who has experience as I am struggling to find answer online.

DH will accrue 12 points on licence due to speeding. I am fuming as we are moving house- that's a separate thread for another time.

The letter was issued yesterday about his speeding, how long from now until they can take his driving licence off him? Roughly?

Any help is greatly appreciated 🙏

“I never put myself in his car” if only the rest of us had the choice to never put ourselves or our families on the same road as him.

Those 12 points are accrued over time, and only represent the times he was caught speeding, they don’t measure all the other times the rest of us were put at risk. Please will people stop posting links to dodgy lawyers who weasel their clients out of driving bans, as far as I am concerned people like that have the same blood on their hands as when a speeding driver kills or injures a pedestrian , a passenger or another driver.

No he doesn't speed with the kids in the car thankfully. He doesn't even speed with just me in the car since I bollocked him when we had our first DD.

If he's got 12 points he can officially be banned before he's notified.

I work with drivers and you'd be surprised how often they're banned from driving without even being aware as the ban is immediately enforceable.

Ultimately he's presumably had at least 5 warnings before his ban - an initial speed awareness course plus 4x3 points + fines?

He's a selfish arsehole.

DH has got 6 points. I now refuse to get in a car with him behind the wheel.

I couldn't let my kids get in a car with someone who has such little respect for the law. Let alone their own safety.

So it’s just other peoples children he puts at risk then . Thankfully.

Most modern cars have cruise control. Why doesn't he use it?

Do you not think he should be permanently banned?

12 penalty points isn't unfortunate, unlucky, careless, or accidental. It's pure selfish idiocy and people like him who have such disregard for other Road users, cyclists and pedestrians are better off with a complete ban.

And speed limiters!

He's not an exceptionally good man, he speeds when the rest of our children are in cars.

If you lie to an insurance company there's no point getting a policy.It'll be invalid.

What a fool he sounds.

Please will people stop posting links to dodgy lawyers who weasel their clients out of driving bans

Get a fucking grip. He’s one of the top motoring barristers in the country not some dodgy lawyer. You obviously don’t believe people should be allowed the best possible representation in court?

People who knowingly and intentionally repeatedly break the law shouldn't be allowed to get off because they know a lawyer who can find a loophole.

This man literally knows he's repeatedly putting lives at risks and all he's worried about it how to avoid paying more on his insurance after his ban. He doesn't deserve good legal representation.

Get a fucking grip. He’s one of the top motoring barristers in the country not some dodgy lawyer. You obviously don’t believe people should be allowed the best possible representation in court?

What a great claim to fame. He must be very proud of his noble career.

Daughters insurance just went up £90 for having three points on her licence. He should have already declared to the insurers that he has points on his licence

when this happened to my partner he got a letter last march, court date for July, 12 points and fine however his license wasn’t banned it was revoked, so he could go straight back in to do his test etc. His insurance skyrocketed and is about double now.

There’s some absolute clean shirts on here being precious - in reality it’s a few speeding tickets. Not a big deal, but his insurance is going to be pricey

Is that you DH? 🙄

Believe me I have a very strong grip, and while I believe people deserve fair representation I would point out that you get points on your licence for accumulated offences. There are not many other crimes where you are given repeated chances to alter your behaviour before you are held to account. So those wonderful top motoring barristers who you are so impressed by are fully aware that their clients have already chosen to ignore the law and put other people at risk on numerous occasions.

I am also not aware of many top motoring barristers who offer their services pro bono to Joe Scum, but instead choose only to use their undoubted skills to absolve Joe Richbastard of their social and moral obligations to act like a responsible human being. So I think their motivation is probably greed rather than a passion for fair legal practice.

So, apologies for offending your fine sensibilities, but I am sticking to my original description of dodgy lawyer , which I thought was quite mild actually.

I know. In real life responses would be different. I often think Mumsnet is a totally different world

I had 6 points for speeding when I hadn't had my license very long, totally my fault. No excuses other than a man died in my arms that morning and just wanted to get home. Again, not an excuse just explanation.

Got another 8 points for driving with no insurance after a traffic police officer giving me the wrong information and told me the week before that under the circumstances I told him that I could drive my car. He stood up on oath in court and denied ever speaking to me.

So I pleaded exceptional caring responsibilities and the judge let me keep my license with 14 points on it for 2 years.

I am also not aware of many top motoring barristers who offer their services pro bono to Joe Scum, but instead choose only to use their undoubted skills to absolve Joe Richbastard of their social and moral obligations to act like a responsible human being. So I think their motivation is probably greed rather than a passion for fair legal practice.

He’s actually surprisingly cheap, certainly cheaper than the cost of a large fine and a ban. Obviously he’s got to make a decent living but people aren’t paying him thousands to represent them for minor traffic offences. He’s a massive petrolhead and so has chosen his specific field in line with his interests. I should add that I have no skin in the game, he has a fantastic reputation and I know people personally who’ve used him. If I were pleading guilty to a motoring offence I’d still employ his services.

Sorry guys, been dipping in and out.

DH is home and feeling completely rubbish about it all as I am being extremely vocal about how disappointed I am in him and how hard the move is going to be now. I have been measured, since yesterday when he got the letter, that I am not putting my arm around him saying it will all be ok.

Anyway, thank you for your posts. DH has been read many of these posts out loud as a reminder that I am not overreacting- he is underreacting. The message is getting through.

I appreciate that one PP feels as though some posters are being precious, BUT I think it's key to remember that you have 3 years to accumulate 12 points- that's a lot of errors in a short time and they are only the ones which are captured on speeding cameras.

When he gets his licence back will his insurance go up? He is convinced that unless you tell them you were banned they'd never know, I believe this is BS and if you lie they will know.

that would invalidate his insurance, so could end up having a crash, which being brutally honest is more likely. Then him not being insured and it would be fraud, a whole load of drama

No he doesn't speed with the kids in the car thankfully. He doesn't even speed with just me in the car since I bollocked him when we had our first DD.

sadly though that’s not logical, surely your dh values his own life & wants his D.C. to grow up with a father alive & not wrapped round a teee or in prison for killing someone else’s child?

I agree @ivykaty44 this is why I am sad and why I am so disappointed in his driving.

Police have 6 months to bring the prosecution, then there's an initial letter advising it's going to court, then a hearing depending on how it's dealt with. Usually with disqualification they notify you there's the possibility and give the opportunity to explain the impact a ban would have on you.

So could take a while. Oh, and the same process for driving without insurance, which he won't have, should he choose not to declare points and any ban. Hopefully he makes sensible choices going forward.