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Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 14:04

Ok so… my child started at a nursery & quickly became friends with another child lets call him Leo. Leos mum was very friendly & quickly invited us out for a play date. I was so happy my little one had made a friend as we are new to the area & knew no one.

Their friendship escalated quickly, we’d be out with them 3-4 times a week. This is with me also declining about 3 play dates a week.

As we all got more comfortable with each other i soon realised we (as in the parents) all had very different ethics. They would swear & smoke(and discuss drugs) around my child & also started to tell my son off if he was grumpy and not playing ball.

I started to get uncomfortable with how they were around my children, especially when they started to push my son out & would tell him to move away whilst their son made “ moves” (their words) on my THREE year old daughter (as in putting his arm around her) at one point when Leo asked my daughter for a kiss & she said no then Leo’s parents both started saying “oh don’t be mean” so then I had to intervene and say very politely that No means No and it’s something we all need to learn because come on I owe it to my children to teach them these things even if it makes others feel slightly uncomfortable.

My husband & I had a chat and decided we needed to spend less time together (not cut off all contact, they’re in the same class after all) but to start having more boundaries. Luckily the 6 weeks were coming up so the plan was to have a few play dates over the 6 weeks & then as they started full time school id refuse play dates most nights based on homework etc

The last day of nursery came and they’d pretty much assumed they were coming to our house but I explained we couldn’t do that afternoon as going out (this was true) I didn’t hear anything off them for a couple of weeks but thought I saw her at the shop so I waved but we were in the car, so I messaged saying I think i just saw you? I didn’t really want to but I was very conscious these people were going to be in my life through school for a long time so didn’t want to be impolite but she didn’t reply.

Since my son started reception they’ve basically cut all ties with us. I’d say hi in the mornings/pick up & at first she would act very off & mutter hi but it quickly turned in to her ignoring me.

I’ve changed the time I go to pick up now so we don’t both arrive at the same time, she is there before me and when she passes me she doesn’t even look my way.

Although I knew something was up and she was being very cold towards me I decided to act as if nothing was wrong & always greet her with my usual happy Hi as I didn’t want to escalate things and be off with her or even acknowledge anything was happening, half hoping it would fizzle out & she’d just act polite back to me but that’s not the case.

The other day the children were playing in the yard before school & her son was playing with mine running around & she shouted “Leo stop playing with… everyone” when he was only playing with my son. I heard sniggers but didn’t bother looking and pretended I was pre occupied with my daughter on the jungle gym.

She’s since made friends with two other mums from the same class & I know she’s poising them against us.

She’s a little younger than me & I know this seems all very petty but I am very anxious about the school runs now. I try not to lift my eyes off my daughter or the floor until it’s my sons turn to come out incase I make eye contact with them.

My son is very friendly with another boy now, his mum seems very mature (think she’s a little older than me) our ethics are definitely more aligned. I have suggested we make a few play dates soon, i should have done it sooner but tbh I’m scared of another fallout.

It’s a very very small village school & I’m devastated it’s come to this already. My husband reminds me we are adults & their opinions of us have no meaning to us but I can’t help but feel bad for my son who won’t get invited to at least 4 peoples birthdays based on this mums crusade against me.

There was also a mutual parent friend who would attend most of our play dates & they have removed me off social media but say hi in the playground. She however hasn’t removed me from social media & I really want her too. I filter her out when I post anything so she doesn’t see but I don’t want to make the first move because i don’t want to cause any more problems.

Talking to her will do nothing, she doesn’t even make eye contact with me. She’s very immature & if I tried to chat to her about it I think it would just fuel the situation by providing more gossip content for her and the other parents.

i haven’t told any other parents at the school about this, I’m trying to be the bigger person.

Has anyone got any advise?

Also if you have made it this far thank you so much for reading 😘

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bro101 · 21/06/2022 14:11

We are coming to the end of term now. Was your son invited to their birthday parties?

bro101 · 21/06/2022 14:12

Are the boys still friends? If they aren't you could ask him to be moved into another class. There are 3 classes in each year at my kids school. Obviously this isn't always the case.

hopeishere · 21/06/2022 14:15

It sounds like it was all a bit intense too soon. I can't imagine seeing another family from school 3/4 times a week. It sounds like she's pretty petty and will now gossip about you to other mums unfortunately.

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Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 14:19

There is literally one class per year 😫 I’ve made a point of not bad mouthing anyone in front
of the children and have no issue with them playing together. my son is very friendly with everyone in his class. Based on photos from dojo app they are sometimes together but he’s mainly with the other boy now (they’re inseparable). He has been left out of one party so far and several meet ups with about 5 pupils from the class. I only know this it’s on fb. He doesn’t seem to have noticed which is brilliant. Xx

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Vodika · 21/06/2022 14:20

So hang on, you didn't want to be friends with them. You are now no longer friends with them and are now upset about that. Why?

Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 14:28

@hopeishere I know right! This is my first time experiencing school as a parent and was just going with the flow at first and then like I said above realised I needed to set boundaries. I think she might have seen i was pulling away a little and wanted to get there first. It’s a shame for my sons sake but equally these aren’t people I’d like him to be around too much either. It’s just the fact they are always there when I arrive in a group and I’m on my own (with my daughter who starts nursery in sept) I get really anxious and panicky and feel like they’re ruining it all for me. It’s sports day soon and I don’t want to go but of course have to for my son.

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Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 14:33

@Vodika i just didn’t want to be around them all the time as it was getting pretty intense but as I am a mature adult I also didn’t want bitchyness at the school gates so I tried to gently reduce how much we all saw each other. I am more than happy not seeing them or being friends with them but when they’re calling out for their son to come away from mine when he’s done literally nothing wrong then yes I am unhappy about that. They seem to have taken it down a very immature route when we’re all adults and parent. For the record I’ve never said a bad word to anyone about them or been anything but kind towards them. I don’t think I deserve the treatment I am getting at all.

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bro101 · 21/06/2022 14:49

She might do the same with the other mums soon then there won't be a "gang" was she friendly with these mums before?

piecelily · 21/06/2022 14:50

You can't 'fix' it though. They've obviously taken against you.

Playground politics are a thing. You need to rise above it. They sound like horrid people and it's good they don't want to spend time with you exposing your children to second hand smoke and alcohol and drugs chat and undermining their boundaries.

MintJulia · 21/06/2022 14:54

Just stay calm and chat to the other mums. Continue to acknowledge this woman politely and don't let her childishness get to you.
To be honest, if they were discussing drugs in front of the dcs and pressurising your dd to hand out kisses against her will, I think you've dodged a bullet. I wouldn't be keen on spending too much time with them either.

Eatthecake80 · 21/06/2022 14:56

I drop off dead on time then leave,being friends with schools mums doesn’t always end well,I learned as Iv got older not to actually give a shit lol.

Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 14:57

@piecelily I know, you’re right I can’t fix it which I don’t like but at the same time as you and my husband have said we don’t want our children around that kind of behaviour. They only started to show us that behaviour a few months into the friendship otherwise I’d have never let it get that far. I’m no snob but when it comes to my children I’ll do everything I can to protect them and I have done but it’s resulted in this and although it’s uncomfortable it’s definitely the right thing. X

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converseandjeans · 21/06/2022 15:00

Based on what you have said I think you're better off starting primary school not being linked to them all.

The boy he is friends with now sounds more of a fit.

Can you also develop friendships outside of school? Football, beavers, swimming etc. Broaden his friendship group.

Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 15:02

@Eatthecake80 Ive actually started to take him
to breakfast club which thankfully he enjoys, literally only started doing it to avoid seeing them at drop off (after the mum shouted for her son to come away from mine) Pick up I get there for when the doors open, they are always there earlier and at the front of the queue. Im trying my absolute best not to care 😂 I promise! I’m hoping in time it’ll just be a distant memory 💗

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JonSnowedUnder · 21/06/2022 15:04

If she is as horrible as you say (talking about drugs in front of the kids etc) she will only really hang around with other parents who think that's acceptable. Do you care in that case?

Ignore them and work on building relationships with some other parents.

Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 15:06

@converseandjeans i know it’s definitely the right thing. I have thought the same thing but unfortunately they are literally apart of the football, karate, rugby and gymnastics in our little town 🙈 couldn’t make it up! However today I found a tennis Class which is a little further out but doable so i am going to book him into that today! They were at the same swim class but the teacher left so we had to move and we both went to different places thankfully 👏x

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Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 15:13

@JonSnowedUnder honestly I don’t care for myself at all, im a big girl and naturally quite a loner (I’m happiest out on a dog walk) it’s just the awkward bitchyness. My stomach is in knots when I arrive at the school. I’m by no means a wallflower but I can’t seem to stop myself panicking over it all. Her bf is very intimidating and is on steroids which scares me tbh. Having you all understand is helping though, as I’ve made a point of not discussing this with anyone outside my close family because I don’t want to give anyone a reason to make it in to a bigger thing. X

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Quitelikeit · 21/06/2022 15:16

The real solution is not to avoid this woman any longer.

I know it’s very intimidating but I think you owe it to yourself and your son going forward.

if the other parents accept drugs chat etc into their social realm that’s up to them. However if you live in a decent area with decent people I can guarantee they won’t all be enjoying this woman.

face up to these people, continue to smile if you walk past and as there’s usually 25 kids in a class chat to the other parents

dont let her win

Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 15:24

@MintJulia that’s it, once they started saying the son fancied my daughter who was still in pull ups at the time I knew enough was enough. I knew I couldn’t allow it all to continue even if it was going to be an uncomfortable process. I just didn’t think nearly a year on It would be such an issue for me at the school gates. I’m just so relieved to hear so many of you agree with me. I’ve genuinely been polite and kind throughout it all and instead of shouting at her I’ve screamed into a pillow 😂 I’m trying my best to be a good mum and I knew if I let those things go and continued to see them so often my children were going to learn some damaging things and I can’t let that happen. Xx

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Yellowmaddy · 21/06/2022 15:33

@Quitelikeit You’re 100% right and deep down I know i need to stop hiding away, that’s not me (usually) but this seemed to knock my confidence big time. If you were to ask anyone who knows me I’m not that person normally. I might start trying to be more confident and set myself little goals (like talk to a new parent this week 😂 kind of thing) and by the new school year which is fast approaching I’ll aim to be back to my normal self. It’ll be the 6 weeks soon and I’ll have a nice break from it all then come the new term I’m going to start turning up when I want to and act as if it never happened (she says…😩)

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whoneedssleepanyway101 · 21/06/2022 15:45

Ah to school run mums 😂I don't do the morning school run due to work commitments but do collect them. I get there very last minute get the kids and get out. I have no interest in speaking to any other parents (there are a few that i will pass pleasantries with buts thats about it) and find that they can often be more childish then the children. Im in no doubt that my kids have missed out on events because im not in the mum circle but I dont care and neither do my kids. Mins are older now so dont really need playdates they just arrange to meet friends after school and i will very often just have one turn up at the house😂

Quitelikeit · 21/06/2022 15:46

That’s fab that you are going to set yourself little goals.

most parents don’t relish the school run and they would most definitely appreciate a little chat or friendly hello

prepare yourself mentally that this woman may continue to avoid eye contact with you and feel grateful about it. This behaviour is about her and not you.

others will soon work out what she is like.

also it’s a good idea to walk for a few minutes prior to going in the school as it will lower your anxiety

grapehyacinthisactuallyblue · 21/06/2022 15:47

You didn't want to socialise with them anymore, that you were planning to refuse playdates come September.
It happened, you are not friend with her anymore, but not as you expected or how you planned. Either way, you didn't want to be around them because of their parenting style.
That's what you wanted.
Don't get intimidated by her, just smile and be polite. Find other school gate friends. It really doesn't worth getting stressed by it.

outshinethemorningsun · 21/06/2022 15:56

I would try to not give it too much thought. The new group of friends are either similar to her and not bothered by all the swearing/drug talk and whatnot, in which case you are missing out on nothing! Or the friendship is not going to withstand that long.

I would carry on acting oblivious to anything being off with a friendly smile and ‘Hi!’ whenever you see them, and concentrating on getting to know other more similar mums

Dorsetdelight211 · 21/06/2022 16:20

My advice is

  1. Go Teflon. Very difficult to do but seriously just try not to let any of this nonsense bother you. They don't sound like nice people, just focus on your DC in the playground.
  1. Play the long game. Her new friends will figure her out soon enough and they'll see that you're a lovely mum.
  1. Join the PTA if you can, you'll then be involved in organising the school events that this situation might make you dred and you'll make friends through that.

Your DS will make and lose lots of friends along the way so don't fret about the impact on him. You've learnt a valuable lesson and that's to keep the mums at arms length until you really get to know them.