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Friend who always wants a place to stay in London

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JanisMoplin · 24/05/2022 19:40

Deliberately putting this in Chat because I am hoping for not excessively dramatic replies:) Long term friend, we went to uni together and have remained friends through thick and a lot of thin. I live in London in a very small flat with DH, DS and DD ( who is at uni most of the time). Friend lives in another country but has recently begun travelling through London often for work, like every few months. She obviously did not visit in the pandemic.

The last year has been quite tough for us with various family problems. DS is currently doing his A level exams. Dh and I both working from home with stressful jobs. I told my friend quite frankly when the pandemic eased that it would be very inconvenient for both her and me to stay with us. For instance, we are all early risers and she likes to sleep till noon. She is allergic or dislikes the smell of certain foods that we eat or cook. DH's loud Zoom calls are often audible through the walls. She agreed and all was well. She stayed in a hotel last few times. I took her out for several nice meals.

But lately she has begun hinting that London hotel rates are very high. She is visiting again this week. I feel pressured to offer her an ( uncomfortable bed) but DS has his exams going on. I don't even have a proper spare room. Am I being mean?. Generally, I never stay with friends any more because I think post pandemic, everyone wfh and I will get in their way. I fork out for an AirBnB.

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FictionalCharacter · 24/05/2022 20:34

whatstheteamarie · 24/05/2022 20:32

Your DS has exams!

His calm home environment needs to be preserved during this time or it's really unfair on him. Please don't put your friend's unwillingness to pay for a hotel above your child's education and results, that's just absurd.

That’s what I was trying to say, you said it better!

IncompleteSenten · 24/05/2022 20:35

She's not coming to visit you though, so the host thing doesn't apply.
She's coming for work reasons and taking the opportunity to see you too.

And by the sounds of it, save some money that she'll likely claim back anyway.

Pearlyqueen21 · 24/05/2022 20:35

You sound like a lovely friend! Please don’t give this any more thought - you can tell her confidently that your current set up (small flat with no guest room, plus exams) don’t allow for overnight stays. But you’re really looking forward to going out to catch up. Your circumstances have changed from past visits, so it’s fine to have new boundaries.

JustSaying101 · 24/05/2022 20:36

Nope. Don't even feel bad for it!

Bethany7 · 24/05/2022 20:37

This is such an important time for your son. He must be your priority and it isn't rude anyway.

lisavanderpumpscloset · 24/05/2022 20:38

Not being mean at all. She's being selfish. Do not give in

WildCherryBlossom · 24/05/2022 20:42

Definitely not during your son's exams!!

grapehyacinthisactuallyblue · 24/05/2022 20:42

I had few of my friends stay at my place in the past, when they are visiting UK for work. I live in the country, not big city, so not to save hotel fees, just to see me. They all treated me for meal, saying they get a lot of allowance for foreign travel.
And I'm Asian too, and normally host would treat guest excessively in my culture too.

YetAnotherNam · 24/05/2022 20:47

I worked as a team secretary for 20 years, no one I ever worked for ever travelled and the company didn’t provide accommodation.

LesLavandes · 24/05/2022 20:53

No. She can find her own accommodation. You have your family to look after

PlatinumJubileeBubilee · 24/05/2022 20:56

She's taking the piss. Or looking for an extended holiday. She sounds like she works for a reputable company. Any company no matter what will be paying for her accommodation. I wouldn't dream of staying with a friend if I was travelling for work - mainly because I like my own space. But her company will most certainly be paying for her accommodations AND food.

Perhaps suggest a few hotels nearby and say you'd love to meet her in the evening for a drink (or dinner if you really are ok to pay for it - and keep the receipt so she doesn't try and claim it back on her own expenses if you paid!)

Maybe she doesn't understand how important the exams are in the U.K. or how much smaller your new place is. But she sounds very imposing and I would not be putting up with her

StaunchMomma · 24/05/2022 21:08

Whether she likes your reasons or not are irrelevant, really.

Her travel needs are nowhere near as important as your DS's exams or your daily working lives.

Don't let her guilt you, OP. You're doing the right thing for your family. If she doesn't get that that's her problem.

Bahhhhhumbug · 24/05/2022 21:12

I hate hunters, find it very manipulative and never give in to them. Let her hint away and just say 'ooh yes, l can imagine ah well that's London for you...' etc etc. She will either give up or be forced to ask outright. Then have above pps answers ready, no room, too much going on etc etc.

butimjayigetaway · 24/05/2022 21:24

The Travelodge is really reasonably priced. We stay there when we visit. It's only £90 for two nights. And that's affordable if you plan ahead.

balalake · 24/05/2022 21:32

Say no, your DS exams are a good enough reason.

EmJay19 · 24/05/2022 21:34

I find it soooo annoying when guests sleep all morning and we’re up early with family. Also find it annoying when they stay up late in living room

bloodyunicorns · 24/05/2022 22:15

Christ, no! Your ds's A levels are much more important! If she doesn't realise that, she's no friend (am in the same trenches with A levels!)

Bahhhhhumbug · 25/05/2022 01:31

'hinters' not hunters

francesfrankenfurter · 25/05/2022 01:49

She may not get expenses. Not everyone does.
But still say no.

milkyaqua · 25/05/2022 01:56

I feel pressured to offer her an ( uncomfortable bed) but DS has his exams going on. I don't even have a proper spare room. Am I being mean?

No! Do not let her pressure or guilt you into feeling obligated to disrupt your family's lives, and your DS's exams. This is not mean. You must be kind to your son, and yourself, first. She is a grown adult and should understand. Once you put your foot down firmly - my son's exams are a priority now - it will be easier to keep the foot down, no matter how many hints she drops.

Ilady · 25/05/2022 02:52

In fact I know people who travel for work and work will give them an allowance for accommodation and meals. They get paid more for expensive cities like London.
No wonder she is hinting at letting her stay so she can keep this money.
You live in a small flat and your son is doing A levels so I say sorry you can't stay due your son doing exams. Tell her you will met her out one night for a meal.
Its important that you son can study. Then he might like to come home after the exams and chat to you about his day without having her their listening.
You do not have a spare room and you can't ask your son to sleep on a couch during his A levels.

dubyalass · 25/05/2022 07:25

Citing your son's exams as a reason will give her an "in" for next time as when he's finished them, that reason is no longer valid. Just say you simply don't have room to have guests to stay.

BackToTheTop · 25/05/2022 07:59

I know if I need to stay away with work I get two options, the company pay the hotel (up to a certain amount), or if I stay with a friend I get a certain amount to buy me and the person I'm staying with a meal (tbh the amount would stretch to a take away).

JanisMoplin · 25/05/2022 08:06

I have just said "Sorry I can't have you to stay; you would have a really uncomfortable time" and left it at that. And she has agreed. TBH the terrible school shooting in Texas had driven it out of our minds now.

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HollowTalk · 25/05/2022 08:22

She will have an allowance for hotels and food. If you are putting her up and buy her food, what happens to that allowance?