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Teen slapped at work, what to do?

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Themadcleaner · 21/05/2022 13:53

Hi, after some advice, particularly about an employers duty of care. Teen daughter was slapped at work by one of the joint owners, on the arm and reasonably hard because she started using the till without realising owner hadn't finished her transaction yet.
She came home really upset, which I can understand as in 30 years at work no employer has laid a finger on me. She told the assistant manager who she gets on well with and has been asked to go in later to talk about it with assistant manager and 2 x owners. I'd like to go in with her as she's under 18 and not great at standing up for herself. I hope they are planning to apologise properly and ensure it doesn't happen again. She likes the job and wants to stay until she finds another one. But other than calmly supporting her to factually say what happened what can I say?
I would think even slapping is assault? And her employers have a duty to protect her from that, rather than inflict it?!

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Pawtriarchal · 21/05/2022 17:12

MissyCooperismyShero · 21/05/2022 15:32

Honestly can no one else see this happening at their place of work? At ours community health care clinic it could happen more or less every week, usually over the last bit of home baked cake. Giggle - Tap - oi! I was saving that bit for me! Oops sorry I thought I was quick enough to get away with it. Chorus Oh but it's just so delicious. Back to work.
Don't call the Police.

So weird this made me cringe. Is there a pantomime donkey too?

RichardOsmansXraySpecs · 21/05/2022 17:13

SammyScrounge · 21/05/2022 17:01

Men who slap young female employees deserve to be pulled up because you can bet your last shilling that they don't slap men or boys. The 'it's a cultural difference' defence won't wash because these employers chose to live in this culture, not their own.
There are lawyers who specialise in employment disputes and there are tribunals.
The employer must not be allowed to think that he can do as he pleases and get away with it.

Except OP says the owner was a WOMAN.

Clarinet1 · 21/05/2022 17:14

xippo · 21/05/2022 17:04

Totally agree

No it’s not the same - what happened to the OP’s DD was an uncalled-for physical assault whereas pulling someone’s hand away from a hot hob, say, would be a reasonable and proportionate action take to avoid that person coming to serious harm.

Coffeetree · 21/05/2022 17:15

And for the avoidance of doubt, no one is going to any meetings ffs. Police report and employment lawyer for constructive dismissal. How did you even get to the point that you have to question what to do if your child is assaulted?

There will be trolls here all night telling you that your daughter isn't worth police time, and "violence is never acceptable BUT", but you know what to do OP.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/05/2022 17:17

She’s not legally an adult so I would go with her and maybe just observe what’s said, However, before the meeting ends I would let whoever is present know in no uncertain terms that you are aware of the law, and you consider it assault - and that you are considering a report to the police. And to the PP who said it was acceptable if the result of a mistake would be hours of sorting out - what planet are you living on if you think it’s acceptable for any employer to even touch one of their employees in this manner ? And if she’s traumatised by it to the point where she feels she has to leave, then it’s constructive dismissal and the employer needs to be held to account. If it was a momentary lapse and a response to her making the mistake, then at the very least the employer needs to apologise and assure you both that nothing like this will happen again.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/05/2022 17:21

DolphinaPD · 21/05/2022 16:20

Absolutely ridiculous to report to the police, full stop Confused

Maybe not in the first instance but what if this is just the tip of the iceberg. The fact that there was physical contact means the employer thinks little of it. So it’s more likely to happen again. At the very least it needs to be made clear that it is not acceptable to touch an employee, let alone slap them, whatever the provocation and that it must not happen again. I cannot believe the number of posters who are minimising what is actually assault.

Rogue1001MNer · 21/05/2022 17:23

Coffeetree · 21/05/2022 17:10

These threads are always a good illustration of how violence against girls and women is normalised. Assault is in fact illegal. Even when the victim was making a mistake at work! OP for God's sake you know what to do.

What tosh. The vast majority of posters are saying report it to the police. Hardly minimalisation!

RachelGreeneGreep · 21/05/2022 17:26

You are absolutely right to attend the meeting with her.
It would be intimidating in a workplace for an adult to meet with three or four people in such a scenario - they would be inviting a union rep or whatever with them, for example.

I would expect an apology to her, from the person who did it, and an assurance that it would not be happening again.

RichardOsmansXraySpecs · 21/05/2022 17:28

There will be trolls here all night telling you that your daughter isn't worth police time, and "violence is never acceptable BUT", but you know what to do OP.

Trolls? You mean posters who disagree with you 🙄

Stickworm · 21/05/2022 17:37

You say it’s her word against theirs but presumably there’s cctv in the shop? If it got that far.

Fraaahnces · 21/05/2022 17:40

There may be cctv evidence of this @Themadcleaner. Go with your kid and report if you’re not happy with the result. Take very detailed notes during the meeting. Don’t be afraid to record it discreetly on your phone and use the recording to fact-check your notes.

mm40 · 21/05/2022 17:40

They will completely downplay it and act as if DD has completely overreacted. Carrying on there will then be a nightmare. If you complain then start working for another job. I’m not condoning them slapping her btw.

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Normally you need two years service to claim unfair dismissal but if an employee is able to establish direct or indirect constructive dismissal, or unfair dismissal on the grounds of breaching rules regarding a protected characteristic (such as disability), in most cases there is no qualifying service period.

StageRage · 21/05/2022 17:55

It wasn’t acceptable whatever the motivation. But I think motivation informs your response.

Was it a panicked ‘Aaargh no don’t press that!’ batting of her hand away from the til thus voiding a long list of inputs in progress, for e.g, or was it an angry ‘how dare you touch the til when I am using it, back off!’ Punitive sort of motivation?

If the first I would expect a really sincere and remorseful apology. If the second, I don’t think your Dd is safe working there, it was assault, and the owner needs to be told to undergo training or anger management or something.

Goldencarp · 21/05/2022 17:59

shewasa99 · 21/05/2022 14:28

Absolutely ridiculous to report this to the Police if your daughter wants to continue working there.

Let her talk to the assistant manager and see what comes from that. She should tell the assistant manager that the owners need to be told that in UK (assuming you are) people are not allowed to slap other people.

This, total over reaction to go to the police.

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DontPickTheFlowers · 21/05/2022 18:03

Why the help would you encourage her to carry on working there?!

dworky · 21/05/2022 18:23

roses2 · 21/05/2022 14:12

Slapped or tapped (firmly)?

She'd hardly be upset if it were a tap, would she?

yellowsuninthesky · 21/05/2022 18:47

andtheycalledthewindmoriah · 21/05/2022 14:19

Ah, yes cultural differences are real. There are many countries this would be normal. Plus, did you see the doctor, from Pakistan, who was just cleared fit to practise medicine after cornering and sexually assaulting a young nursing student?

His argument? Normal where he's from.

So even more reason to report it so these sexist morons don't think that it is normal or acceptable behaviour in this country!

yellowsuninthesky · 21/05/2022 18:48

Why would someone want to keep on working somewhere where their boss had hit them? There are loads of jobs out there, the OP's dd can find a better one!

Reallybadidea · 21/05/2022 18:54

Jesus Christ the minimising on this thread! I train people in a job where one false move could kill someone and I've managed not to slap any of my trainees!

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latetothefisting · 21/05/2022 19:07

MissyCooperismyShero · 21/05/2022 15:32

Honestly can no one else see this happening at their place of work? At ours community health care clinic it could happen more or less every week, usually over the last bit of home baked cake. Giggle - Tap - oi! I was saving that bit for me! Oops sorry I thought I was quick enough to get away with it. Chorus Oh but it's just so delicious. Back to work.
Don't call the Police.

no! I can't see it happening at my current nor ANY of my previous jobs, spanning several sectors!
And even if it did a light hearted "tap" between friendly colleagues about cake is different to an adult employer punishing a young employee by slapping them ffs!

Op places are crying out for young temp part time staff- I'd recommend your dd leave and find something else.