Monkeypox?

[MonkeypoxThread]

Apologies if there is already a thread about this - the search function is useless atm! I will get this deleted if it's a duplication.

Just interested to read MNers views on this as I don't know what to make of the news reports, and I know there are very knowledgable MNers. I think it's hard for people with no knowledge of things like this, to gauge the "significance" of these cases from the news.

On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being "meh, whatever, fuck it" and 10 being "PANIC MODE ENABLED" I'm normally about a 3. Is that about right?

Another excellent article by a well thought of journalist.

www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2022/05/monkeypox-outbreak-covid-pandemic/629920/

BlackAmericanoNoSugar

couple of points there

1. they think you will still have some immunity via smallpox vaccine not sure how much after 50 years
2. it is not milder than chicken pox I don’t think??
3. By the way, chicken pox isn’t actually a pox virus, it’s varicella zoster
4. monkeypox is considered a high consequence disease. Not necessarily because it make the individual very ill, but because it takes you out for 3-4 weeks. That would be a major problem for our National infrastructure. Imagine what would happen if it infected healthcare workers and they were each out for 4 weeks?

This sentence struck me from that article everything

"When it comes to epidemics, people tend to fight the last war"

It does look, from various reading sources, that the duration is longer which has much more of an impact on "ordinary" people. For people with underlying health issues like me, we worry about the physical illness, but people without that specific fear would still be hugely affected by those knock on effects (as we saw with self isolation even when it as reduced in duration!). Nurses, teachers, lorry drivers, logistics (especially in food related areas which are already affected by the war) doctors, shop staff, carers etc etc. Being ill or infectious for 2-4 weeks is a scary thought.

Personally, I think that for logistical reasons it would end up with (like the latter days of CV regs) people who feel well enough but may still be infectious, would simply have to work and the rest of us have to take our chances and just take as many precautions as possible. As a CEV person, I accept that, yes it's shit but it's how it is.

When it comes to epidemics, people tend to fight the last war is a good expression. There is so much to consider - not just infection/fatality rates etc but the logistics of day to day life. I wonder, if it does turn into another "proper" pandemic, whether our experience with CV will make it harder or easier to deal with. For example, the public probably wouldn't support another lockdown after the previous experiences, we may have shot ourselves in the foot there! I think people may have been higher on The Panic Scale™️ if it wasn't for CV - after the last couple of years perhaps we are more likely to think "meh, fuck it, I'll take my chances"?

I'm actually also struck by the lack of threads on this! When you think how many threads there were, even right in the very beginning of CV, perhaps MNers must be just fed up with it all, and representative of the general public?

Maybe I should start a Monkeypox Mask thread in AIBU...imagine the traffic on that one!

I understand that,I just find it odd it's popping up in different countries at the same time?

I dare you!🤣

It's not transmitted in the same way.

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What if you do the laundry of someone that gets jiggy with it?

Compulsory isolation coming in now in some countries

I really hate bananas. Would papayas work?

It's sexually transmitted so doesn't require a lockdown

It's not been confirmed if it is a std, or spread because people having sex get close (it's not been spread via sex before)

Regards my previous post, isolation if infected.

This is untrue.

I wish people making statements would give sources!

It's mainly gay men at the moment, but it can also be spread through coughs and sneezes apparently ,so it could well pass into the wider community.

I don’t understand how this has not happened before, it’s not a new virus?

What bothers me is how this outbreak appears to have seeded itself in various countries, if it was allegedly driven by sexual contact in saunas etc then what was it, the gang bang Olympics? It seems to have spread very far, is the sauna in Heathrow T3? To suddenly see cases popping up in various countries suggests there should be a direct link and yet there doesn’t appear to be one, yet?

If it does take hold then it poses a significant problem as others have said because the down time is more prolonged than Covid isolation.

My conspiracy mindset immediately associates the attention on this outbreak to an indirect link to Covid, something doesn’t add up and just doesn’t feel right, it seems bigger than they’re letting on but that’s just me overthinking.

That's what I'm not understanding, I understand that one person could have spread it to several other people ,but how is it popping up in different countries .

People caught it/transmitted it on holiday and then all went home to different countries?