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Things disguised as healthy...

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marshmallowmamma · 15/05/2022 21:13

A light hearted post but what are some things that are portrayed as healthy but aren't really ? My list is as follows...

Flavoured water
Most yoghurts
Yoghurt coated raisins
Most cereals
Fruit juices

Obviously we need to live a little but give us some that yiu think are purely just marketed to reel us in

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MyStarHasGone · 16/05/2022 12:36

Meat. I could give you loads of evidence from sources many would consider biases so here's this from the Diabetes UK page:

"Dangers of red meat
Consumption of red meat has been linked with increased incidences of heart disease, colorectal cancer and type 2 diabetes. The extent of the associations have found to be higher for processed red meat." "The risk of diabetes was 20% higher in those that ate over 110g of unprocessed red meat a day. However, the research attracted some criticism for including hamburgers within the unprocessed foods list. Of those that ate a serving of processed meat, the risk of type 2 diabetes grew 50% higher."

"The risk of diabetes was 20% higher in those that ate over 110g of unprocessed red meat a day. However, the research attracted some criticism for including hamburgers within the unprocessed foods list. Of those that ate a serving of processed meat, the risk of type 2 diabetes grew 50% higher."
www.diabetes.co.uk/food/red-meat.html#:~:text=In%202011%2C%20a%20study%20by,unprocessed%20red%20meat%20a%20day.

A report of a study from the American Heart Association: "Diets higher in plant foods and lower in animal foods were associated with a lower risk of cardiovascular morbidity and mortality in a general population." www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/JAHA.119.012865

ReadyToMoveIt · 16/05/2022 12:41

BogRollBOGOF · 16/05/2022 12:34

I've just had some with my greek salad for lunch, (and a bit of salad dressing) 😂
Being a MN salad, this will keep me going through this afternoon until Friday. 😉

Low sugar, a bit of fibre from the oats/pearl barley, high protien, iron. Sensible component in a varied diet. I'm on a 5:2 day so needed filling on a limited amount of energy/ calories.

It's not marketed as healthy, but it's more nutritious than many other popular fast day choices such as 10 calorie jellies and mug shot type foods.

Keep it varied and portions sensible.
(And why am I 5:2ing? Because due to injury my calories in/ out are out of balance and I'm adjusting before I'm officially overweight, and have reached the age where a bit of concious management is necessary).

Oh I agree it’s absolutely fine to eat in moderation, and I eat it. But the thread is about foods ‘disguised’ as being healthy, and I’m not sure it comes under that umbrella. There aren’t any marketing campaigns telling you to eat your healthy black pudding 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hyperion100 · 16/05/2022 12:41

Seed oils

Aghh · 16/05/2022 12:42

Most things prepared in a NutriBullet - especially things with banana and/or avocado in - I put on 2 stone an a couple of months !

marshmallowmamma · 16/05/2022 12:42

@Gudbrand thank you 😊

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ReadyToMoveIt · 16/05/2022 12:42

I eat most things on this thread (except things like vegan substitutes) and am a healthy weight. Because I don’t eat too much of them.

marshmallowmamma · 16/05/2022 12:46

MiddleNameJane · 16/05/2022 12:14

I think there is a genuine problem with big food companies manufacturing highly processed (and profitable!) food and marketing it as "healthy". It's often aimed at busy parents anxious to feed their kids well, or people stressed about their weight. And it's often pretty expensive, too. Take Yoyo Bears as an example; they claim to be "one of your five a day!" "Pure fruit!" It'd be cheaper, and perfectly fine, for a child to have an apple and a biscuit.

This is totally the problem!!!!! Also why is Chocolate and sweets cheaper than fruits? Big companies are making a fortune out of peoples naivety and belief that big multi million pound companies have their best interest at heart

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BogRollBOGOF · 16/05/2022 12:48

ReadyToMoveIt · 16/05/2022 12:41

Oh I agree it’s absolutely fine to eat in moderation, and I eat it. But the thread is about foods ‘disguised’ as being healthy, and I’m not sure it comes under that umbrella. There aren’t any marketing campaigns telling you to eat your healthy black pudding 🤷🏻‍♀️

It just made me laugh as I'd literally just finished eating it 😂

TBH it's one of the foods more likely to be demonised by being included in an over-sized fry up although has become seen more as a delicacy in recent years.

marshmallowmamma · 16/05/2022 12:49

@ReadyToMoveIt that what it comes down to really xxx

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queenofarles · 16/05/2022 12:56

Most things prepared in a NutriBullet - especially things with banana and/or avocado in - I put on 2 stone an a couple of months !
this ^^ I wish more people knew of the dangers of smoothie and juice culture ,
its the quantity of fruits consumed in one go, coupled with things like nut butters,
even things like orange juices cause a quick spike and drop in glycemic levels , but not when eaten whole , because of the fibers consumed in whole oranges, makes you feel full longer.

FabFitFifties · 16/05/2022 12:57

I was veggie for about 25 years and have consumed enormous amounts of mainly quorn but also soya and other meat replacements. I never kidded myself they were healthier they just added a different texture to meals. I still eat them, but have more recently voiced a fear that they will be identified as carcinogens in the future. I hope not. Moderation in everything is best I feel.

hamstersarse · 16/05/2022 13:02

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but black pudding (in it's natural original format and not the ultra processed crap you get now) is actually very good for you.

It is made from blood and is rich in nutrients - all our ancestors and the surviving hunter gather tribes absolute relish blood for it's nutrition

I'd say black pudding is more a victim of the opposite of this thread - it is actually full of goodness but we are told it is awful

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jan/06/black-pudding-praised-as-a-superfood-alongside-seaweed-and-kohlrabi

Lancastrian viagra!

HesterShaw1 · 16/05/2022 13:12

"The risk of diabetes was 20% higher in those that ate over 110g of unprocessed red meat a day."

If someone eats red meat every day then they can't be that bothered about healthy lifestyles generally, and therefore more inclined to (Type 2) diabetes. Is that a fair suggestion?

BaconMassive · 16/05/2022 13:13

Black pudding is a healthy thing disguised as unhealthy, I misinterpreted the thread title.

Carry on.

TheOrigRights · 16/05/2022 13:13

Nowomenaroundeh · 16/05/2022 11:46

I cannot believe anyone regards the majority of the foods on this list as healthy.

Oats, brown rice, quinoa, buckwheat, whole vegetables, whole fruit, dried pulses, meat (from the butcher's, fish (from the fishmonger), quality oils, Greek yogurt, sheep's or goats cheese, full fat organic milk if you can tolerate dairy, nuts, seeds, dark chocolate for a treat, herbs and spices... Forget the rest.

There's a typo there, right? Did you mean to say 'unhealthy'?

nb I was searching the thread for an answer to why brown rice is unhealthy.

Remember when Sunny Delight was marketed as being some sort of great drink for kids?!

hamstersarse · 16/05/2022 13:14

Meat doesn't give you diabetes or heart disease. That is one of the biggest misconceptions of all time

Processed meat, maybe, but not proper meat.

BorderlineHappy · 16/05/2022 13:15

Haudyourwheesht · 16/05/2022 10:39

But this is, in fact, surely a far more sensible way to eat chocolate. You still get the enjoyment of a dairy milk, rather than some 'low fat coco-substitute' bar, but in a smaller serving. That's what I'd do if I was trying to lose weight.

Although I'd probably just buy a real chocolate bar and have half one day and half another.

Imo the labelling of 'good' and 'bad' foods is one of the main reasons for the number of people whose eating is totally disordered.

The problem is with this is not everyone can self regulate.
Food is an emotional crutch for some people.

Me being 1.
Getting type 2 diabetes gave me a kick up the arse.
And made me realize what my triggers were regarding food.
And my choices.

Also made me realise portion sizes where so important.
I still have off days and it's hard being on so many tablets but I'd say getting it now at my age made me make the changes that I needed to make.

ReadyToMoveIt · 16/05/2022 13:17

TheOrigRights · 16/05/2022 13:13

There's a typo there, right? Did you mean to say 'unhealthy'?

nb I was searching the thread for an answer to why brown rice is unhealthy.

Remember when Sunny Delight was marketed as being some sort of great drink for kids?!

I used to love Sunny Delight! It was basically just orange flavoured sugar 😂

Sirbobblysock123 · 16/05/2022 13:18

I think people get mixed up with healthy and low calorie. Avocado is healthy but eat too much and you’ll put weight on as it’s high in calories. That doesn’t make it unhealthy though.

TheOrigRights · 16/05/2022 13:19

queenofarles · 16/05/2022 12:56

Most things prepared in a NutriBullet - especially things with banana and/or avocado in - I put on 2 stone an a couple of months !
this ^^ I wish more people knew of the dangers of smoothie and juice culture ,
its the quantity of fruits consumed in one go, coupled with things like nut butters,
even things like orange juices cause a quick spike and drop in glycemic levels , but not when eaten whole , because of the fibers consumed in whole oranges, makes you feel full longer.

Eugh....is this true?

My 13 year old son has started having a banana smoothie for breakfast. It's made with 1 banana, a glass of milk and a spoonful of cocoa/chocolate powder.
He's not a big breakfast person and is making an effort to have something to keep him going.

Lovemusic33 · 16/05/2022 13:27

TheOrigRights · 16/05/2022 13:19

Eugh....is this true?

My 13 year old son has started having a banana smoothie for breakfast. It's made with 1 banana, a glass of milk and a spoonful of cocoa/chocolate powder.
He's not a big breakfast person and is making an effort to have something to keep him going.

A banana smoothie with milk and cocoa powder is fine. The same as eating a banana and drinking a glass of chocolate milk. It when people are drinking smoothies containing a banana, a apple, a handful of raspberries, some orange juice, 8 strawberries and a handful of blueberries, because that’s a huge amount of sugar in one glass.

MsMarch · 16/05/2022 13:41

TheOrigRights · 16/05/2022 13:19

Eugh....is this true?

My 13 year old son has started having a banana smoothie for breakfast. It's made with 1 banana, a glass of milk and a spoonful of cocoa/chocolate powder.
He's not a big breakfast person and is making an effort to have something to keep him going.

Argh, this thread continue to annoy me. @TheOrigRights, don't worry, food doesn't magically become unhealthy once put in a nutri bullet - notwithstanding the opinions of some people on this thread!

A banana, milk and cocoa smoothie is probably just fine. Personally, I'd add some raw oats to reduce the GI and (theoretically) make him feel fuller for longer. Just a dessert spoon full. And I guess a spoonful of peanut butter would be better than the chocolate powder, but I wouldn't be getting too worked up about that.

TheOrigRights · 16/05/2022 13:50

A banana, milk and cocoa smoothie is probably just fine. Personally, I'd add some raw oats to reduce the GI and (theoretically) make him feel fuller for longer. Just a dessert spoon full. And I guess a spoonful of peanut butter would be better than the chocolate powder, but I wouldn't be getting too worked up about that.

Oh, that's good. Yes, we tried with oats, but it's a bit thick for him then. Peanut butter is a firm NO!

queenofarles · 16/05/2022 13:53

It’s fine as a sub for breakfast, but not as middday snack for example , and seeing he is a teen and still growing he needs the extra fat calories.

a simple experiment is trying to eat all the components of a smoothie in one go, you can’t, it’s too much, no one can consume a large banana , cup of strawberries , yogurt and 1/4 a cup of peanut butter, a smoothie you get full very quickly and then sudden drop and Hunger a couple of hours later ,
spreading them out through out the day is much better , have the yogurt and strawberries for breakfast , the banana as a snack and just a a tablespoon peanut butter as protein source,

queenofarles · 16/05/2022 13:55

My post was a reply for TheOrigRights