Disorgansied people

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Yes, I am aware and seemingly unable to change. I am completely lacking in organisational skills!

I genuinely do believe to an extent its a brain 'type' but I also have a memory impairment which doesn't exactly help!
I have stuff - too much stuff, loads of things we love so we have what some would consider clutter. Not a ton though.

The disorganisation is our papers are everywhere, I vaguely know their wherabouts but it takes me time to find them, if I can!! I often haven't got a clue where things are. I have stacks everywhere as putting them away means I'll never find them again or even remember they exist . I have problems coordinating and remembering appointments and working out how long transport takes.

My house is actually vey clean, strange as it seems.
I have a cleaner for 6 hours , and some weeks another four if my brain is ill. The situation is apart from kitchen, bathroom, and bed changing (she also seems to have an inexplicable love of the washing machine!), she has to pick up the papers, dust them etc and then put them back exactly as they were.

She does standard cleaning including skirtings, door frames, folding and washing that's dry and just leaving it on the landing.

Question do you know anyone else like this (who is not actually a hoarder)?

I'm scared that when people visit (not in our formal siting room which is fancy and almost always impeccable on days after the cleaner) that the general chaos starts to rapidly decline as I'm trying to find things I've lost again!

I've tried diaries but was losing about 5 a year. The calendar was better but if I made an apt then I was supposed to remember to write it down .
I'm really trying. Its just not working.

My question is what would you think if you came to a house like this, how horrifying is it.? It's obviously clean just a tip🙄

What now?
I know MN doesn’t like to judge but I have no idea what you are trying to say?

Is this one of those challenges to see how many letters can be misplaced in something for it still to be readable??

I'm struggling to understand your OP. Sorry.

i am not understanding this post

As above, what are you saying? Your post is illegible

OP you could benefit from enabling autocorrect on your phone.

You need to edit your post OP.

I suggest you run your post through a spell check and proof read at least twice, before posting again...

I think you have ADHD causing difficulties with executive function. Google how it presents in adult women.

Do you actually want to get more organised or are you just asking for reassurance that visitors won't mind?

For the second point, no, they probably won't mind as long as it's hygienic and smells clean and fresh. For the first mumsnet can provably give you tips if that's what you're after

Yes, I can understand what you mean. My mum, who when working was super organised, has always been messy in the home. She literally just puts down what is in her hand wherever she is. There is always stuff everywhere. When the first lockdown happened, we didn’t go inside her house for a couple of months. When we did, it was a shock, stuff all over the floor. But to answer your question. Does it put me off visiting, no. I’m just prepared to spend the first hour tidying.

Yes it sounds something like this, though there are other causes of exec dysfunction too. Do you know what caused your memory impairment?

No solutions this early in the morning OP but I can really sympathise. Also with typing difficulties too. Ignore any rude comments but autocorrect is a godsend for me.

Im sorry so heaviy medicated and. I actually checkered it through and in my mind it makde sense. @Chica10 @Hugasauras @QuitMoaning @Bretonbear @AlwaysFireFighting sorry!

The real question is;
if you go to a person's house who hws chaotic, stuff all over the place, (known memory defecit from medical cinidtiont) threre especially lots of papers i need in piles on my large kitchen bar
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I read your post quite easily. I am dyslexic and can relate to what you say. My house is very organised and all paperwork is filed. I have to be this way. If I was to put things in random places I wouldn’t remember where they were.

I wouldn’t worry what anyone else thinks of your house. Those that mind don’t matter, those that matter don’t mind.

I'm also able to understand what you're trying to say. Don't worry what others think of your home, but focus on what you need to do to make it work for you. A problem solving approach would help. Start with a list of what you need to do, then organise it into steps/stages, then begin to tackle it bit by bit. Someone I know takes annual leave to spring clean once a year and I thought this was a brilliant idea, it helps to maintain the level of organisation once you've achieved it.

Op, what are you being medicated for?

There are a lot of spelling mistakes in your posts which make them very hard to read/understand. Do you have dyslexia?

In terms of the original question, it does sound like you have a problem with the executive function part of your brain which helps you organise yourself. It can be caused by lots of things; ADHD, brain injury, cognitive decline, etc. Medication can also cause problems.

Look up ClutterBug on YouTube. Find your organisation type and go from there.

Looks like you might have dyslexia. One of the symptoms of dyslexia is poor organisation skills.

Sorry, just read your last post and I can see you've had a head injury.

Are you engaged with any sort of NHS service at the moment? It sounds like you might benefit from a bit of occupational therapy input. There should be some sort of community head injury service in your area. There's also Headway which is a great charity dedicated to supporting people with brain injury. www.headway.org.uk/

I can read your post!
I am naturally disorganised but find notes on my phone and the phone calendar work well as I tend not to lose my phone.

For paperwork it might be worth taking photos of important documents and saving the photos to files on your phone. For example a file for school, one for medical, car, house etc.

Why are people trying to diagnose the op? Are you all doctors?

Some quick tips for now.....

Have a dedicated place for things and when you've used them put them back in their home so:-
Keys on hook
Diary on kitchen counter or in handbag
Purse in handbag
Phone on cradle in kitchen

In terms of paperwork:-
Get a box
Gather up all your paperwork and put it in the box
Sift the paperwork and chuck all the bits you don't need (i.e. envelopes, flyers)
Go through the pile again and sort into 'same' piles (i.e. Council Tax, Santander paperwork)
At this stage, you can either sort each pile again (i.e. statements, letters, leaflets) or just file
As post comes in, add it straight to your box and go through regularly

Checklists are really helpful. You could have them for different areas of your life so a simple daily checklist could be:-

Feed cat
Breakfast
Shower
Brush teeth
Get dressed
Make up
Hair
Wash up
Tidy kitchen
Fluff up cushions in lounge
Put post in box
Make bed
and so on....

Do you have anyone who can help you to get some systems set up?

Sometimes I really hate mn.
You are all so snarky and mean because the Op is full of spelling mistakes from someone who has said they have memory issues, and where there is obviously other stuff going on.

OP I could read and understand you post.
I love TheHatinaCat suggestions.

My dh cannot see thingns filed in drawers, so he has a set of bookshelves. They are covered in piles of paper. All important papers are put on those shelves. Then they are always there. If you wanted to go a bit further you could have shallow boxes or trays with clear labels on the front - bills; bank account; council tax etc and then you can see which pile to drop it on. This is like a visible open filing system, instead of havign things away in drawers and folders.

As to whether I would judge. Yes and no. I have a friend who scatters everything over th floor. You can't walk across the room without stepping on things. I find it hard because dirty tissues and earbuds are mixed in with her importand bills etc. The house smells if I am honest. I have sympathy and understand that it comes from her depression, and at times I help out (clear all the kitchen surfaces and wash up when I'm round there) but it is also a concern to me, and I wonder what her bedroom is like.