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Diversity in the workplace - why am I not included?

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FayCarew · 20/04/2022 11:05

As I watch a new set of corporate videos, I realise that I am not represented in them. They are full of young attractive smartly/business casually dressed people of a range of ethnic diversity.

Yet my colleagues are generally 50+ white and grey and wear WFH clothes. As am I. We are not board level.

AIBU to feel invisible?

OP posts:
roarfeckingroarr · 21/04/2022 18:34

@Butteryflakycrust83

Its not meant to represent an even proportion of demographic. Its meant to help balance the scales that have and have always lent towards white people being the default.
Falsely? To represent a world that doesn't exist?
roarfeckingroarr · 21/04/2022 18:39

@SleepingStandingUp

So they've allowed similar arrangements for working class colleagues? Male colleagues? Married colleagues? Non-White colleagues? Single father colleagues?
They denied an entirely reasonable work pattern - one I've been doing since returning from maternity leave with excellent results - for no reason. My point is that inclusion doesn't just mean protected characteristics - it mega
roarfeckingroarr · 21/04/2022 18:40

Sorry - means making work doable for people and enabling them to be successful.

Thedogshouses · 21/04/2022 19:29

I don't agree with the spite and bitterness of these posters and I do think it's ridiculous that we have to pretend every family has a black parent, a white parent and an Asian child, its just stupid. But I will say that having lived in India, Africa and the Middle East that their tv adverts have mainly white western people in them so I guess everything is upside down. I still don't get why there's there's relentless apologetic gesturing at every turn, there's diversity and then there's throwing away your own right to heritage and history. I couldn't live in the UK, it's just not how the rest of the world operates.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/04/2022 19:53

roarfeckingroarr · 21/04/2022 18:34

@Butteryflakycrust83

Its not meant to represent an even proportion of demographic. Its meant to help balance the scales that have and have always lent towards white people being the default.
Falsely? To represent a world that doesn't exist?

Hello, welcome to TV and advertising. It's all made up. Shhhh. They don't even use real couples and sometimes they do stuff that isn't even possible like using a telescope to see old men on the moon.

britneyisfree · 21/04/2022 19:53

@CatherineMorland

YANBU. After watching a series of adverts, my DS asked me the other day why aren’t there any families like ours (white) on TV.

It made me pay attention, and he is right.

LMAO you are having a laugh.
dottypencilcase · 21/04/2022 20:07

What happens if the people in the video are non-white, middle aged AND disabled? Are they okay being in the video then?

MurmuratingStarling · 21/04/2022 20:28

britneyisfree · 21/04/2022 19:53

@CatherineMorland

YANBU. After watching a series of adverts, my DS asked me the other day why aren’t there any families like ours (white) on TV.

It made me pay attention, and he is right.

LMAO you are having a laugh.

@CatherineMorland is NOT 'having a laugh.' She is correct, and so is her son. You're deluded if you deny it. OR you never EVER watch TV!

@Thedogshouses

I don't agree with the spite and bitterness of these posters and I do think it's ridiculous that we have to pretend every family has a black parent, a white parent and an Asian child, its just stupid.

This. ^ It's reached the realms of farcicalness now. Even every drama has a mixed race couple in it now. Every. Single. One. Indian woman/white man, Black man/white woman, mixed race woman/white man, Chinese woman/white man. Mixed race man/white woman. And for good measure they even pop mixed race same-sex couples in quite often now.

And almost EVERY family is 'blended' and has a mix of children who are white, mixed race, Asian, and black. Yet in real life, the vast VAST majority of families are not like this.

I can't remember the last (fictional) drama where all the main characters were white. Can't say anything though, as white people are not allowed an opinion these days. They daren't speak out, lest they be shouted down by the liberal-left 'woke' brigade.

UhtredsLatestPaganHussy · 21/04/2022 20:31

@MurmuratingStarling , if you claiming that there aren't any white families on TV (as per @CatherineMorland's claim) then I must conclude that you are a half-wit. Probably a racist half-wit.

5zeds · 21/04/2022 20:36

Awe poor white people it must be awful to see so many non-white people represented (almost like the world really, given so few people are white). I expect it’s comforting to know you are less likely to end up in jail, or randomly searched, more likely to be believed and more likely to “do well” in the uk. Racism if fucking awful to live with. It grinds you down. I think you’ll survive.

OnceuponaRainbow18 · 21/04/2022 20:36

Threads like these always attract the right wing racist types who have a chip on their shoulder

5zeds · 21/04/2022 20:38

I can't remember the last (fictional) drama where all the main characters were white.
Harry Potter

Sbqprules · 21/04/2022 20:43

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RicaDaVidaLoca · 21/04/2022 20:43

@MurmuratingStarling please DM me your address. I’ve a very fetching ‘I’m a massive racist’ sandwich board that’d suit your bigotry down to the ground.

Seriously. Stop with the hatred. And if your prejudice wasn’t enough to highlight your stupidity, making up words is. Farcicalness? Idiot.

Simonjt · 21/04/2022 20:49

“I can't remember the last (fictional) drama where all the main characters were white.”

line of duty
vera
this country
no return
gentleman jack
Bloodlands
finding alice

All from the top of my head and I’m not a big TV watcher.

Kendodd · 21/04/2022 20:50

I'll tell you what you never see, ugly people with crooked teeth.

Simonjt · 21/04/2022 20:51

“And for good measure they even pop mixed race same-sex couples in quite often now”

Yeah because families like that don’t exist, I mean me being Pakistani, my husband being white Swedish and both of the children being mixed race is obviously imaginery.

lljkk · 21/04/2022 20:53

tbh, I have spent decades feeling I can't identify with pretty ppl in adverts in fashionable clothes. Skin colour etc. kind of irrelevant. None of it was ever like me.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/04/2022 21:02

OK so
Fixodent - two white people in a date
Comfort - white Mom, mixed child, black Dad
Secret escapes - mix of people, mostly white
Ocado - white delivery man to white family
Drafty - duel heritage woman, white men
Gala bingo - white woman, animals
Drayton Manor - white family
Vinted - white man
Ola - white woman

One random advert break in a Neighbours episode. Sorry, there's no white people in adverts?????

Thedogshouses · 21/04/2022 21:14

RicaDaVidaLoca · 21/04/2022 20:43

@MurmuratingStarling please DM me your address. I’ve a very fetching ‘I’m a massive racist’ sandwich board that’d suit your bigotry down to the ground.

Seriously. Stop with the hatred. And if your prejudice wasn’t enough to highlight your stupidity, making up words is. Farcicalness? Idiot.

Calling people racist because they don't agree with you reflects more on you and your issues than their views. You seem extremely bitter and frankly, don't sound like you like white people very much. But that's OK? No it's not.

SleepingStandingUp · 21/04/2022 21:22

roarfeckingroarr · 21/04/2022 18:40

Sorry - means making work doable for people and enabling them to be successful.

But you're inferring it's because you're white and middle class, rather than because they're generally inflexible.

UhtredsLatestPaganHussy · 21/04/2022 21:24

Thedogshouses · 21/04/2022 21:14

Calling people racist because they don't agree with you reflects more on you and your issues than their views. You seem extremely bitter and frankly, don't sound like you like white people very much. But that's OK? No it's not.

Funny, I was thinking it was you and your chum who were the bitter ones...

RedskyThisNight · 21/04/2022 21:25

As a result of this thread I have just sat and analysed the adverts in the last ad break. There were 2 adults featuring solely white people and 5 adverts featuring people from a mix of ethnic backgrounds, but none where the number of white people in the individual ad was less than 50%. I didn't actually go so far as to count people, but I would guess that the % of white people overall was about 75%. Yes, lower than the make up of the country, but hardly invisible.

RedskyThisNight · 21/04/2022 21:27

I can't remember the last (fictional) drama where all the main characters were white.

The Split is on currently. All the main characters in that are white.

RicaDaVidaLoca · 21/04/2022 21:29

@Thedogshouses I would never call someone racist just because they don’t agree with me. I do, however, call people who express racist sentiment racist. Which is exactly what the other person did in their post. Her horror at interracial couples being shown on the telly is palpable. How is that not racist? On what other grounds do you think her outrage is founded?

I’m not bitter. I just get fucked off when people think it’s ok to write such hateful nonsense without any real consideration for how it could make others feel. Do I care if some white people are sad that they feel underrepresented on the TV? No. It’s laughable.

Sincerely,
A white person