MN, mind , Samaritans

[Debroglie]

There is no real life support.

Why do you insist that there is?

I’m not sure what you’re getting at?

I had a thread where I was getting support for mh difficulties and MN deleted it.

Fine. That is their policy. But don’t pretend there’s help elsewhere when there isn’t.

I agree. Really pisses me off seeing this get trotted out on every thread. Mind aren't interested. The samaritans aren't interested, if you can get through to start with.

MN people and wine are my only friends.
When MN deleted my thread I was very upset.

I’m sorry you were upset.

You could try your GP?

Was this the thread about how much you hate your life? Phone 111. It’s free and they will help

Thank you notanother

When they delete threads they should just say ‘fuck off you miserable bastard. No one in RL gives a shit’

Mumsnet isn’t RL though and it can never be.

Yeah thanks timefor impressed with your optimism but 111 aren’t going to have anything.

I think it’s because they can’t have people talking about suicide and self harm incase it encourages people to do it or someone does it on the basis of a comment here (which seems unlikely but you just never know if someone is in a bad place mentally).

Generally if you just talk about things generally they let threads stand. I agree there is no real support in real life. All the helplines etc just feel so impersonal and seem to trot out standard responses.

I have found calm helpful at times however.

www.thecalmzone.net/

Yeah MN isn’t RL I know that. But to pretend that there is RL help available is just dishonesty

You were having serious thoughts about ending your life. 111 will dispatch and ambulance and provide you with the help you need. I used to work for them and I know they will help. They have a duty of care.
Please call them and tell them exactly how you are feeling

I read your original thread OP and am listening 🙂
We’re here for you if posting helps

I get they don’t like suicide chat. I suppose that’s fair enough.
I would just appreciate some acknowledgment that there is no help available rather than peddling lies.

MN is not the place for some types of support. HQ has a duty of care to all users, hence deleting and signposting. It sounds harsh but there you go.

I am so sorry you are unsupported in RL, it sucks big time.

Thank you vang posting is helping.
I don’t need an ambulance.

My have taken advice on what to do with threads where the op is suicidal.

I’m sorry you feel unsupported though.

*MN

Where is a better place to post than mn?
I don’t have any other social media I am a bit ignorant of alternatives.

No but you do need help. Please phone 111. You might not think you need an ambulance (which is fine), but it means you will get a paramedic to visit you, to talk to you and who can get you support in real life, much better than any random strangers on the internet.

Please phone.

There's always a danger that someone could very innocently say the wrong thing when someone is really struggling.

I'm sorry you're having a bad time of it, OP.

I'm sorry you're struggling OP, I didn't see your original thread but I do appreciate how hard it is to get support irl. I'm here too x

@Badger1970

There's always a danger that someone could very innocently say the wrong thing when someone is really struggling.

I'm sorry you're having a bad time of it, OP.

Or purposely. I've seen it before (no necessarily on MN), there are some very nasty trolls on the internet.

I'm not going to give advice because I have zero expertise in what you are going through. I am going to tell you this though.

My nephew has just come out of a long suicidal period, I won't go into the details but he did present at a and e and he was admitted to a ward.

I don't know your past, but he was feeling totally worthless. He has a family, lovely home, good job etc but he believed everyone was better without him. As a loved one, hearing that was excruciating and annoying because he is so loved. And so are you, you are not worthless, you are ill.
He has now been diagnosed with bipolar, slowly he is getting answers and developing coping mechanisms.

The thing is that suffering does not actually matter.

Tonight I will finish my wine and move on to whiskey until I pass out.

Then tomorrow I will get up and my dc’s friends willl come round and I will provide fun. entertainment, food etc for several dc and they will all have a nice time.

To an observer, things will look fine. All the children will have fun and parents will be grateful when their dc are dropped off tired at bedtime.

All day I will be miserable and think of death. No one will notice.

This will repeat the next day and the next.

Next week I will go back to work as a teacher and yet more dc will be well cared for by me.

I will still want to die.