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Not comfortable with MIL looking after DD alone?

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StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 13:20

A long one, sorry. Just a bit of an AIBU / checking if my gut instinct is right about this situation or not.

A bit of context so as not to drip feed - My MIL has 8 DC and absolutely loves babies, and says she would have had more if nature had let her. My DH (the eldest) does love his mum but has always found her a bit stifling / controlling of him. As he got older he felt she tried to keep him from growing up, for example not wanting him to go off to university (which he did anyway) and stifling him a bit, eg calling him early mornings every day during his finals to check he was up, even after he asked her to stop. After university he moved to a city 3 hrs away from his mum's home for his job, and as an adult he has generally seen her about 3-4 times a year. They are not really close but they get on to a polite level, if that makes sense. She has always been fine to me, although she was quite overly invested in our wedding and there were a few tears when we didn't do things as traditionally as she would have chosen, but mainly directed at DH rather than me. She was also quite full on during my pregnancy, albeit via text as we were in lockdown, eg asking us to text her as soon as I went into labour (which we didn't do). I know she was incredibly keen to be a granny so I did understand she was very excited.

When our DD was born it was during lockdown as well so MIL didn't see as much of the baby as we would have normally expected, (for the first month it wasn't even legal) but we arranged some outdoor gatherings in the warmer weather and picnics etc. From the first day MIL was very clear that she wanted to look after DD on her own. At our first meeting she offered to drive 3 hrs to look after DD 3 days a week so I could go back to work. (This would be a 6 hr round trip per day). I was polite but non-committal as it felt too soon to be thinking about this with DD only tiny and it had come out of the blue. Afterwards DH said to me that he didn't feel comfortable with DMIL looking after our DD. He said that her reasons for offering were for her own needs rather than thinking first about DD or us. I did feel it was quite a "full on" offer from MIL considering she's not really close to DH, and the 6 hour round trip making it completely impractical! In my gut I did feel she wanted to get back that feeling of having a baby to look after.

Anyway, a year later after a number of other meet ups, we asked MIL and DH's sister to visit for the day, and we suggested that MIL might like to spend some time with DD. (She had been texting us to ask about this on a fortnightly basis, always framing it as "to help you out" but my DH still felt a bit uneasy). Anyway we felt that due to lockdown our DD hadn't had any opportunity to spend time away from us so it would be good for her and it would be nice for MIL, as we did feel sorry for her not having seen as much of us all due to Covid. So we arranged to go out for lunch just me and DH whilst MIL and SIL stayed in our home with DD. This was very much something we felt we were doing for MIL.

Bearing in mind this was the first time we had ever left DD, and in my case (due to lockdown) the first time I had ever been apart from her at all except from when DH looked after her. As you can imagine I was slightly nervous. Not being all "PFB" I hope, just in the normal natural sense that as a first time mum I was leaving my baby to be cared for someone other than my husband and I felt a bit anxious, which I think is understandable. But I knew it was a good thing to be doing and that she'd be perfectly safe.

I felt sure that in spite of MIL's obvious desire to have DD all to herself, as a mum of 8 she would definitely sympathise with the nerves I felt and be considerate about it. I showed her round DD's room, not teaching her to suck eggs as I knew she's experienced looking after babies, but just pointing out stuff she'd need to know like where nappies and wipes were kept, what to give as a snack etc. As I did this she changed a bit, and became impatient and seemed to be rushing me along a bit, saying "yes yes" as if she was itching for us to leave.

Just before DH and I left the house, I said to MIL "look I know I'm being silly, and everything will be absolutely fine, but I'd really appreciate it if you could text us after an hour or so, just to let us know DD is okay, as it's the first time we've left her". MIL said of course.

At the cafe where we were waiting, after an hour there was no text. We both felt nervous but knew we were just experiencing what every first time parents do, and decided to try and enjoy our lunch and not worry. After 1.5 hours however, we became a little bit anxious. DH said he would send a casual text to MIL just to check in. He did so but there was no reply. She always texts back straight away so that made us more nervy! Then I said, look I know it's silly but can we just give her a quick call and say we just wanted to check in. So DH rang her but there was no answer. That only made us feel more nervous! So then we decided to call SIL and she didn't answer! By now I felt slightly nervous, even though I knew it was most likely to be fine, but I felt a bit annoyed as I had explicitly asked MIL to text us.

Anyway, long story short SIL finally rang us another hour later saying all was fine but they had not seen their phones.

We returned home after about 3 hrs. When we got home the first thing MIL said was it all went brilliantly and that "DD didn't miss her mummy and daddy one bit". I felt this was a slightly ill-judged remark, but at the time I was feeling a bit sensitive because of the situation.

MIL continued to say how smoothly it had all gone and how she'd be happy to do this every week or more if we wanted it. She left the room to go to the bathroom and during normal conversation SIL let it slip that DD had been in tears - apparently she had seen a photo of me on the wall and had cried for mama and needed comforting. Nothing major and after 20 minutes she'd been fine, but why didn't MIL just tell us this outright?

After the visit, DH said that he felt his mum was painting it all out to be smooth and perfect so that we would ask her to look after DD more often. He said he felt she was being a bit disingenuous. I felt a lack of trust in MIL after her failing to phone us. I felt like this was a basic boundary that she had overstepped.

We are now at the stage where DD is older and so far we haven't left her with MIL again. We only tend to see DH's family a handful of times a year anyway, but MIL has been asking and asking to look after DD, and suggesting set days etc. She even bought an expensive Wendy house which her partner built in her garden, even though we haven't been to her house with DD before!

My gut feeling is that I don't trust her to look after DD alone. Not because I don't think DD would be safe - I'm quite sure she would be physically safe with MIL, but AIBU to feel that MIL's boundaries feel a bit off? Eg I can imagine a situation where DD was crying, sick or slightly bumped her head or something, where an objective carer or nanny would think "right, I'd better call mum" but where MIL might think she will deal with it herself, cover it all up and then not tell me about it later.

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girlmom21 · 08/04/2022 13:27

I think she probably told you everything was fine because, actually, it was.
Yes she cried for 20 minutes because she had never been away from you before. That's completely normal.

Maybe just wait until DD can communicate well before you let her look after her again for your own peace of mind.

NoSquirrels · 08/04/2022 13:34

Well, first off you don’t need to leave your child with anyone you don’t feel comfortable doing so.

But, I do think you’re being a bit precious.

Yes, they should have texted. But I don’t think the ‘crying for mama having seen a photo’ is a massive big deal and I don’t think saying she didn’t miss you or daddy is a big deal either, in the grand scheme of things.

If you spent more time with MIL so she could hang out with your DD and develop a lovely relationship with grandma, you’d feel less anxious. Can you visit a bit more/her visit you?

I think when you’ve raised 8 children you might actually forget it feels weird to leave baby 1 with someone else - when you’re a few children down (& many decades later!) you don’t remember.

Let her in. She doesn’t sound horrendously overbearing and you can easily keep boundaries as you live miles apart. Just let her in more where it’s appropriate.

NoSquirrels · 08/04/2022 13:39

Not because I don't think DD would be safe - I'm quite sure she would be physically safe with MIL, but AIBU to feel that MIL's boundaries feel a bit off? Eg I can imagine a situation where DD was crying, sick or slightly bumped her head or something, where an objective carer or nanny would think "right, I'd better call mum" but where MIL might think she will deal with it herself, cover it all up and then not tell me about it later.

You see, I think I’d be an “objective cater” for someone else’s baby, and if they bumped their head (minor) l, was crying (minor), or was a bit sick (minor), if probably just tell you when you got back.

If your DD bumped her head and was injured significantly I’d call you. If she was hysterically crying and I could calm her I’d call you. Or very sick unexpectedly and under the weather - temperature etc.

If I’m doing childcare for someone I see it as my job to deal with all the regular things that go with it and not worry the parents while they’re at work/having fun/otherwise occupied. They can’t help from a distance, only fret, and in 9 times out of 10 cases it’s all resolved before they’d need to come back.

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thebabynanny · 08/04/2022 13:40

You're not that close to MIL, you only see her 3-4 times and a year and your don't want or need her to look after your DD - so just don't!

If she has 7 younger children then it's likely she will soon have some more grandchildren to distract her.

Just enjoy visits together a few times a year.

StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 13:41

You see, I think I’d be an “objective carer” for someone else’s baby, and if they bumped their head (minor) l, was crying (minor), or was a bit sick (minor), if probably just tell you when you got back.

That's what I mean - I don't trust MIL would do.

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StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 13:42

@thebabynanny

You're not that close to MIL, you only see her 3-4 times and a year and your don't want or need her to look after your DD - so just don't!

If she has 7 younger children then it's likely she will soon have some more grandchildren to distract her.

Just enjoy visits together a few times a year.

Thanks, yes I think you're right.
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Wnkingawalrus · 08/04/2022 13:42

I do understand the anxiety around leaving a baby for the first time, especially a lockdown baby (I have one myself).

But there was no reason for MIL to tell you that your child had been crying. I really appreciate that my MIL always tells me everything has been fine, they weren’t any trouble overnight, etc when I know the reality is they probably did cry for their Mum and almost certainly woke a few times in the night. But what good can come from that other than to make me feel bad?

Obviously if they were sick or seriously hurt themselves she would tell me.

NoSquirrels · 08/04/2022 13:43

@StoppingTime

You see, I think I’d be an “objective carer” for someone else’s baby, and if they bumped their head (minor) l, was crying (minor), or was a bit sick (minor), if probably just tell you when you got back.

That's what I mean - I don't trust MIL would do.

You don’t trust she’d tell you when you collected? On the basis of the one time she cried and SIL said so but MIL didn’t?
MMMarmite · 08/04/2022 13:43

I'm with you. Her behaviour is odd and she doesn't respect your boundaries. Neither you nor DH want her to babysit, so just don't let her.

sauvignonblancplz · 08/04/2022 13:43

Omg your poor MIL Confused

NoSquirrels · 08/04/2022 13:44

@Wnkingawalrus

I do understand the anxiety around leaving a baby for the first time, especially a lockdown baby (I have one myself).

But there was no reason for MIL to tell you that your child had been crying. I really appreciate that my MIL always tells me everything has been fine, they weren’t any trouble overnight, etc when I know the reality is they probably did cry for their Mum and almost certainly woke a few times in the night. But what good can come from that other than to make me feel bad?

Obviously if they were sick or seriously hurt themselves she would tell me.

Yes - this is what I mean.

“Yes, all fine!” is basically the absolute default answer for all childcare unless there’s been a major incident!

StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 13:45

Yes, and the fact she didn't call when she promised to. As it was the first time, I thought she would be a bit more understanding of the first time feeling and give us a quick text for reassurance. I don't think it was unreasonable to ask that if her, and on the basis that SIL was also there someone could have easily sent a quick text.

I wouldn't expect regular text updates now or anything, but it was the first time.

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NoSquirrels · 08/04/2022 13:47

@StoppingTime

Yes, and the fact she didn't call when she promised to. As it was the first time, I thought she would be a bit more understanding of the first time feeling and give us a quick text for reassurance. I don't think it was unreasonable to ask that if her, and on the basis that SIL was also there someone could have easily sent a quick text.

I wouldn't expect regular text updates now or anything, but it was the first time.

I don’t think it was unreasonable to ask. I do think having promised they should have. But really it was no big deal in the end.

And as I say, perhaps she doesn’t remember ‘how it feels’ but that’s OK! It’s about DD not you at the end of the day.

Do you leave DD with anyone else or is it just MIL you feel anxious about?

piratehugs · 08/04/2022 13:49

If you want permission never to leave your child alone with MIL - you can have mine! It's fine to decide that, honest.

Be glad your DH feels the same way so you don't need to argue your case with him about it.

MajesticallyAwkward · 08/04/2022 13:50

You are being a bit PFB. I don't think not telling you dd cried a bit is an issue, it was the first time without you or your dh so a few tears is pretty standard. Yes she should have text but a quick 'you really need to text or reply if you have dd' is enough.

But also you don't need to leave your dd with her, family visits are easy enough with that distance between you and as you relax more you might want to start having the odd meal out during the visits.

I was nervous leaving my lockdown baby when my mum started looking after him (closer geographically with a 30/40 minute drive), it was very different to my older dc because I'd been with him 24/7 since birth. He cried a couple of times but by visit 3 he was shouting 'bye' at me as soon as we arrived. It was always planned though and I didn't feel forced into it (and by the time bubbles/contact was allowed I was 100% ready for some down time!)

StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 13:52

Do you leave DD with anyone else or is it just MIL you feel anxious about?

Yes she goes to nursery part-time, and we also have a trusted babysitter from the nursery.

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StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 13:54

@piratehugs

If you want permission never to leave your child alone with MIL - you can have mine! It's fine to decide that, honest.

Be glad your DH feels the same way so you don't need to argue your case with him about it.

Thank you! Yes I think the fact that DH feels strongly about it is pause for thought. He's a very rational person and so I believe him when he says he thinks her motivations are disingenuous.
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BogRollBOGOF · 08/04/2022 14:44

DH has a literally distant and not very warm relationship with her and it seems to be very much her wanting to see DD on her own terms and not actually to your needs. I can understand why you feel reticent about MiL looking after her alone.

A grandparent with the best motivations will be happy to work at your pace to build familiarity.

StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 15:43

Thanks @BogRollBOGOF

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Cherrysoup · 08/04/2022 17:08

You live 3 hours apart, so I doubt her looking after your dd is practical, plus she won’t know her and I wouldn’t leave a young child with a stranger. Just say no. Your mil will stop asking eventually. It’s a bit odd for her to keep mentioning it. I’d ask your dh to just tell her to stop. It’s never going to work at that distance.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 08/04/2022 17:22

If you don't want to leave her then you don't have to .

She should have messaged you . As for the crying I wouldn't have mentioned it either , small children/babies cry. As long as you are able to distract them and they are not hurt or distraught I wouldn't say anything .

LittleBearPad · 08/04/2022 17:36

If you don’t want her to look after your daughter you don’t need to but I think you’re being a bit over dramatic.

Easterisoffeggstooexpensive · 08/04/2022 17:46

Why aren't you listening to dh's feelings it isn't appropriate for his dm to have dd? Surely his feelings outweigh hers?

StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 18:50

you're right @Easterisoffeggstooexpensive

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StoppingTime · 08/04/2022 18:51

@LittleBearPad

If you don’t want her to look after your daughter you don’t need to but I think you’re being a bit over dramatic.

Ok, in what way dramatic?

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