Surrogate babies stranded in Ukraine

[Femalewoman]

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/surrogate-born-babies-stranded-in-kyiv-basement-gd3txmqmp

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/15/the-stranded-babies-of-kyiv-and-the-women-who-give-birth-for-money

I read this story. The babies waiting to be collected by the richer European or further afield families who have purchased them now stuck in a dreadful situation.

I hope they can get these mothers and babies out safely.

I don't agree however with the purchase of a baby from another country. I understand why the poor Ukraine women sell their babies to richer families but I find it sad and distasteful.

@Mia85

Indeed a front for human trafficking. Thank you for those interesting links.

@Clymene

And the BBC were recently promoting surrogacy on their CBeebies Instagram with the tagline 'Surrogacy Rocks!'

that's shocking!

Well, apart from the adverse consequences already mentioned, the oh-so-horrible things happening to surrogate mothers and their babies in Ukraine at the moment and the 300 babies that were stranded in a Ukranian hotel during the pandemic (I wonder what happened to them), my blood runs cold thinking of how easy it is for paedophiles to obtain babies this way.

@Katiekat84

I never realised surrogacy was such a bad thing.... do you just not agree with it in situations where the birth mother is paid? Or in all situations like when a sister carries a baby for her sibling who can't?

Its all a dark world. But what OP is talking about is these women are desperate for money, living in poor conditions so they have sold their baby based upon this reasoning which is wrong

I'm not judging but imagine selling your baby and the money has ran out.... you still have the same finical issues but with one less baby. Its quite traumatic to even think about.

Selling babies is wrong, renting women's wombs is wrong, leaving Ukranian women - who've birthed "your" child - in a war zone is wrong.

And poor children - if these 'intended parents' will do this to another human being in order to buy a child, I can't imagine they're going to turn out to be selfless parents putting their kids (who they feel they own) first.

I always come back to the fact that there are rules and laws against taking puppies away from their mothers too young because it is traumatising and creates behavioural problems to do so - and yet so many people seem to think it's completely fine to do this to an actual human baby. Regardless of genetics, that baby knows its birth mother's voice when it is born. When puppies have better protections in law than human children we really have a problem.

Regardless of genetics, that baby knows its birth mother's voice when it is born

My dgd wouldn't breathe until she heard her father's voice.