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Is anyone NOT feeling anxious about world events?

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youhadmeatjello · 01/03/2022 08:16

Just curious. My anxiety is out of hand at the moment so I feel like everyone must be terrified and full of dread also, but wondered if that’s actually the case?

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Libertybear80 · 02/03/2022 07:39

I'm upset and anxious but only for Ukrainians not myself. I'm sat here in comfort and warmth with my family.

FindingMeno · 02/03/2022 08:39

@elephantmarchingin

I am. Shit scared infact.

I was diagnosed with anxiety earlier this year and am annoyed as I had it under control.

The last few nights (since Sundays nuclear threat) I've slept maybe 4 hours, I've cleared out under the stairs in case we need shelter no matter how futile that would be (and please no comments about you wouldn't want to live), I've cried, I've got angry and I feel like I'm spiralling- nothing I can do though.

If you're on meds perhaps have a discussion with your gp re: upping them. If not on meds, consider it. I'm not saying this in an offhand patronising way. Ime best to act when spiralling begins. We're meant to be anxious about this, but you sound like you're suffering and there is help Flowers
RagzRebooted · 02/03/2022 09:12

No. I'm engaged, I check the news a few times a day and follow a thread on here. But I break it up with reading a good book (and work etc!). I tend to get practical rather than anxious though, so last week we topped the cars up and took some cash out. I like to feel like I'm prepared in some way and I like to know what is going on. I really do feel for the people over there, I also am concerned for the implications for us (economy etc) but I don't sit around worrying we will be nuked or getting worked up about it all because that isn't helpful.

I am lucky to not be an anxious person though, I understand how it could all be really distressing for others.

SartresSoul · 02/03/2022 09:17

Trying not to, trying to steer clear of the news to protect my own MH. Got obsessed with it when the news first broke and just kept reading and reading lots of different sources. It isn’t good for me so trying to avoid it now. Can’t change the outcome so pointless wasting energy worrying. Very sad for Ukrainian’s though.

shreddednips · 02/03/2022 09:18

@elephantmarchingin

I am. Shit scared infact.

I was diagnosed with anxiety earlier this year and am annoyed as I had it under control.

The last few nights (since Sundays nuclear threat) I've slept maybe 4 hours, I've cleared out under the stairs in case we need shelter no matter how futile that would be (and please no comments about you wouldn't want to live), I've cried, I've got angry and I feel like I'm spiralling- nothing I can do though.

I'm so sorry you're feeling this worried, can you see your GP to see if they can help you?

I am no expert, but I know a bit about how the nuclear deterrent situation between NATO and Russia works because it was something that scared me too. I find it helps me to face the bogeyman and then I don't feel so worried. The type of end-of-the-world situation that's making you so frightened is really, really unlikely. The type of scenario you see described in the papers etc is usually the worst-case scenario because it gets people clicking. Intelligence even shows that there are no signs that Russia has made any serious preparations to deploy nuclear weapons. I think it's really important to remember that ramping up the fear factor is a tactic to get people in NATO countries to waver, and mentioning that particular word is a good way to stir up that fear. This doesn't mean that something is actually going to happen.

When I was little and I felt scared, my mother used to tell me to instead think about all the good people everywhere doing their jobs to keep everyone safe and society running. In this situation, when I feel scared, I think of all the good and clever people who are working tirelessly to keep nations secure and help the Ukrainian people. Right now, there are expert analysts, intelligence, aid workers and all sorts of other people doing everything they can. I am a bit of an optimist, but I find this thought sustaining.

shreddednips · 02/03/2022 09:23

@Bloodyshittystorms

I wasn't doing bad until I read that Putin has put all his family safely away in a Nuclear Shelter.
I bet he has, he's probably worried about someone trying to bump them off. This is the man who has installed the longest table in the world and (according to some sources, not saying this is definitely true) sprays people with disinfectant in a tunnel before they can sit at the end of it. I don't think anyone should read too much into this.
psychomath · 02/03/2022 12:29

The type of end-of-the-world situation that's making you so frightened is really, really unlikely. The type of scenario you see described in the papers etc is usually the worst-case scenario because it gets people clicking. Intelligence even shows that there are no signs that Russia has made any serious preparations to deploy nuclear weapons. I think it's really important to remember that ramping up the fear factor is a tactic to get people in NATO countries to waver, and mentioning that particular word is a good way to stir up that fear. This doesn't mean that something is actually going to happen.

This. Also, whenever I get anxious reading the headlines I try to remind myself that 1) if Putin was a madman who just wanted to end the world for no reason he could have done it ages ago, there'd be no need to invade Ukraine and make loads of theatrical threats first, and 2) he clearly doesn't want NATO getting involved (which makes sense because in terms of conventional military power the NATO countries combined are much stronger than Russia on its own).

I went into this a bit more on another thread, but it seems to me that he's intentionally timed this invasion for when there'd be very low appetite for military involvement by other countries - post-Covid, Trump out of the White House, lots of internal division in UK and European countries that was partly caused by Russia itself, etc. The absolute last thing he'd want to do is drag them into the conflict unwillingly, by launching an unprovoked attack on a NATO country that's not currently involved - particularly one like the UK, where, bluntly, other NATO members can't dismiss it as "just Eastern European politics, let them sort it out themselves". On the other hand, it makes total sense that whenever anyone from those countries shows a bit too much interest in military action he ramps up the "I'm an unstable madman with nuclear weapons, yknow" rhetoric to scare them off again. And then Western media runs with it because they're desperate for user engagement.

BigRedDuck · 02/03/2022 12:38

I'm not anxious about it. Can't control it, the serenity prayer is useful for something like this. I couldn't really get worked up about covid either.
The media are greatly responsible for whipping up panic unnecessarily and I think we have become far too dependent on it. Vladimir Putin is a mad man, yes. Could he wipe us all off the earth? Yes. But if that's what he wanted he could have done that years ago. What do men with power want? More power.
And the women and children suffer for it. That's what makes me upset.

It does also slightly irk me that we are seeing so much about this and yet countless civil wars, atrocities happen all the time (Syria, Lebanon to name a couple) and the west don't get so concerned. Just because it will likely affect our cost of living shouldn't be the only reason that we care.

I am sad for the children that are dying and the mothers that have to watch. I am sad for the children who have to grow up in a war zone. And feel very grateful that mine do not.

shreddednips · 02/03/2022 12:40

@psychomath

The type of end-of-the-world situation that's making you so frightened is really, really unlikely. The type of scenario you see described in the papers etc is usually the worst-case scenario because it gets people clicking. Intelligence even shows that there are no signs that Russia has made any serious preparations to deploy nuclear weapons. I think it's really important to remember that ramping up the fear factor is a tactic to get people in NATO countries to waver, and mentioning that particular word is a good way to stir up that fear. This doesn't mean that something is actually going to happen.

This. Also, whenever I get anxious reading the headlines I try to remind myself that 1) if Putin was a madman who just wanted to end the world for no reason he could have done it ages ago, there'd be no need to invade Ukraine and make loads of theatrical threats first, and 2) he clearly doesn't want NATO getting involved (which makes sense because in terms of conventional military power the NATO countries combined are much stronger than Russia on its own).

I went into this a bit more on another thread, but it seems to me that he's intentionally timed this invasion for when there'd be very low appetite for military involvement by other countries - post-Covid, Trump out of the White House, lots of internal division in UK and European countries that was partly caused by Russia itself, etc. The absolute last thing he'd want to do is drag them into the conflict unwillingly, by launching an unprovoked attack on a NATO country that's not currently involved - particularly one like the UK, where, bluntly, other NATO members can't dismiss it as "just Eastern European politics, let them sort it out themselves". On the other hand, it makes total sense that whenever anyone from those countries shows a bit too much interest in military action he ramps up the "I'm an unstable madman with nuclear weapons, yknow" rhetoric to scare them off again. And then Western media runs with it because they're desperate for user engagement.

Agree with all of this. All of this nuclear rhetoric is an incredibly effective way of making the public baulk at their leaders taking a firm line. It alarms me too- it's hard not to hear this threatening language and not feel dear. I don't discount the fact that it's not impossible, but I really believe that the main aim is to sow fear and uncertainty in people to destabilise resolve rather than actually signalling intent. The main risk of harm is psychological harm.
shreddednips · 02/03/2022 12:49

I also wish that the press would show more restraint in the type of thing they're publishing on the subject. I'm not suggesting that the public shouldn't be aware of what Russian officials are saying, but some of the coverage is gratuitous. Stuff like maps showing what the effect of the very biggest bombs going off over U.K. cities, detailed articles about what would happen if the world was in an all-out nuclear war. From what I understand, these eventualities are particularly unlikely.

I whole-heartedly wish that these weapons had never been invented, or at least that countries could agree to at least get rid of the most destructive bombs so that the hypothetical threat of the end of the world was removed. Unfortunately, that is not imminent. In the meantime, it would be a good start to stop stoking fear in the public of the most unlikely outcomes.

Inkanta · 02/03/2022 13:27

I got two appointments wrong this week - which is unusual for me. I think I am affected by the Ukraine invasion - more than I realized. I try to limit myself to watching news to 5 minutes at a time and then getting on with other things.

Inkanta · 02/03/2022 13:38

I also felt frustration, anger and helplessness about Putin and the fact that he can't seem to be stopped. And then the poor Ukrainians stuck in this awful situation, all contributing to me feeling distracted generally and not concentrating on my own life.

garlictwist · 02/03/2022 13:49

I am not worrying about because there is nothing I can do about it so what's the point? If we get blown up by a nuclear weapon, so be it. Obviously I'd rather that didn't happen but wasting my last days on earth worrying it might is also not ideal.

valerianaofficiana · 02/03/2022 13:57

Putin will be stopped, only matter of time. Never been the good ole 'keep calm and carry on' more apt.
Clear heads will prevail.

Lesserspottedmama · 02/03/2022 14:26

No. Rightly or wrongly, because of all the constant doom-mongering the past two years I feel I am just immune to the media’s threats of peril now - I just roll my eyes (mentally). I do feel desperately sad for those directly affected though.

Greeceisthebest · 06/03/2022 09:42

Live in hope, not fear.

Roselilly36 · 06/03/2022 09:49

No, I feel very sad for the people suffering. But the possibility of consequences don’t worry me. I am sure I would have worried when I was younger, my children are now adults, but feel I live on a knife edge with my illness (MS) as it is. I can’t stop my illness, What is the point in worrying if you can’t change things.

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