How can her majesty bail him out?!

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It’s disgraceful. He should his own sorry sad life out. Beast.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60401663

I thought the Queen Mother died in debt which the Queen paid off.

The only thing that seems certain is that we will never be told the official amount or how it is to be financed. We can only speculate.

Very true @Topseyt, but it would be a good enough reason to stop the RF charade.

They are no better than anyone else, just richer.

She’s his mother. Who probably thinks her son had sex with a 17 year old which was a daft thing to do but he had no reason to believe she didn’t consent and didn’t know that the woman had been groomed by Epstein. And Andrew isn’t allowed to have a job as he’s a Royal so has no money of his own so I guess she feels sorry for him and wants to protect him

He was never going go prison, it wasn't a criminal trial.

@AgentProvocateur

I’m sure we’d all bail our adult children out if we had the means and they were in trouble.

I don't know. DS1 got a fine for driving in a bus lane in my car. I made him pay, even though I could afford it easily and it was a lot of money to him. He's learned his lesson. I don't want entitled children

Love the link.
He is as guilty as sin.
She bailed him out because he is the favourite.

He sold his house a few years ago, he's sold his Swiss chalet, his grandmother left him money in her will. His mother might be giving him the money as an advance on his inheritance. Nothing to do with us if we aren't paying.

VG is presumably satisfied with the outcome and his mother will probably think it is worth a few million to stop having to listen to it.

I thought the Queen Mother died in debt which the Queen paid off

Not as I understand it. She was notorious in owing money but had a massive legacy of £70M so when she died her daughter paid off her debts.

@Blossomtoes

I thought the Queen Mother died in debt which the Queen paid off.

Just googled it and apparently she left between £50 and £70 million with £14 million of it going to the great grandchildren.

@Sundancerintherain

Love the link. He is as guilty as sin. She bailed him out because he is the favourite.

Yes I bet she'd let the others rot.

Paid off her debts with that inheritance.

Happy to be corrected if I have that wrong.

She set the money up in trust before she died for the GC... no tax that way. The whole of her estate after she died when to QE... no IHT to pay then as the RF are exempted if the money is left to a sovereign.

@Roussette

She set the money up in trust before she died for the GC... no tax that way. The whole of her estate after she died when to QE... no IHT to pay then as the RF are exempted if the money is left to a sovereign.

I read the trust was for the great GC, William, Harry and their cousins.

Ahhhh could be. But I imagine it was trusts for the GC too? Otherwise there would be IHT.

I think there is an important principle - there has been no admission of guilt, if this were someone not in the public eye I would be appalled that they were being reported as guilty. This was/is a civil case. I don't think there is a right for people to know how he is funding the settlement - the same would apply to other cases.

We don't know the details - this case did not go to court and therefore there must be a presumption of innocence . I say that because if this were not a member of the royal family or a famous individual I think we would be horrified if they were assumed guilty.

We frequently see cases where a person is named if they are either accused in a criminal or civil case - the other individual remaining anonymous - this admittedly has not happened in this case but there is again trial by media. I say this not out of any feelings for this case but due to the principle.

Because it needs to go away.

I’m not excusing what he’s accused of. But it is damaging to the monarchy for this to be in the news continually. So it’s being made to go away.

@Roussette

Ahhhh could be. But I imagine it was trusts for the GC too? Otherwise there would be IHT.

I thought so too but all I can find is £14 million for the GGC and the rest to the Queen. Maybe all the details aren't known.

I can understand passing it to the GGC as apart from William and Harry (although Harry's position has changed) the others aren't going to be living as Royals with a capital R if you know what I mean. I think she had twelve GGC, Charles, Anne, Andrew and Edward had two each and I think Princess Margaret's two might have had two each as well, so just over a million each? Keeps the wolf from the door.

Thinking about it maybe the QM gave money to the GC when they were younger, no IHT to pay if she survived for 7 years I think.

Yes absolutely, I think you've got it there ancientgran

It’s more likely that the Crown wasn’t going to cover his legal bills which is why he settled. In the US settling is usually something people do when they don’t have the money for a protracted lawsuit.

@ancientgran

Thinking about it maybe the QM gave money to the GC when they were younger, no IHT to pay if she survived for 7 years I think.

Rich people tend to give large trust funds to their kids / grandkids at birth for this reason.

I mean if they could prove it he could do time at Her Majesty's pleasure after all.

He hasn't been proved guilty of anything. I really can't go along with PA's public crucifixion. He is a sleaze and had sleazy friends. That's about all we can say. He has paid a terrible price for his behaviour and I can' t help but think the price is disproportionate.

He must have loads of money himself. Nodody ever knows how much the royals have in their saving accounts!! Maybe Fergie will help him out with a few quid,, they are still friendly I think.!! The is always the Go Fund Me pages to try on social media.!!!!

Maybe Fergie will help him out with a few quid,, they are still friendly I think.!!

Doubtful!

I've literally just read something 10 minutes ago saying she is £262,000 in debt according to the latest accounts of her brand lifestyle business.

Friendly?! They live together at our expense at the 30roomed 98 acre Royal Lodge Windsor. Without her ex, she'd be filing for bankruptcy probably. No wonder she blathers on about how wonderful he is the whole time!