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How can her majesty bail him out?!

101 replies

Ilostit · 16/02/2022 20:30

It’s disgraceful. He should his own sorry sad life out. Beast.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60401663

OP posts:
Ilostit · 17/02/2022 07:29

[quote Billandben444]@MrsTerryPratchett
I mean if they could prove it he could do time at Her Majesty's pleasure after all.

How? What he was alleged to have done wasn't a crime in the UK.[/quote]
Sex with a trafficked person isn’t a crime? Sex with a coerced person / a non consensual person isn’t a crime? I believe if you don’t consent to sex it’s rape? He raped a 17 year old.

OP posts:
BrambleRoses · 17/02/2022 07:32

There’s no way he’s be sentenced for rape. That’s not to say he isn’t guilty, before I get flamed to a crisp. But there is no evidence.

MaggieMooh · 17/02/2022 07:38

I think this raises some serious questions about hereditary monarchy. Not only do unfit people get put into certain positions, they also can’t be removed. I would be strongly in favour of a republic at this point.

WhiteXmas21 · 17/02/2022 07:44

OP , I am shocked that you are shocked .

This is a civil case, so he’s not going to jail, sadly. I totally agree he’s a beast.
But this is how people with such resources operate. They throw money at it.
It may be hugely distasteful to Queenie, Charles & William, but they just want it to go away.

sashh · 17/02/2022 07:49

She has generally always put the State first so I will be shocked if she is bailing him out.

She has put the RF and its status first.

Sharrowgirl · 17/02/2022 07:49

She has generally always put the State first so I will be shocked if she is bailing him out

Bailing him out is putting the State first though. A long-running and embarrassing legal case featuring sex offending is damaging to the monarchy.

DingleyDel · 17/02/2022 08:04

We don't know how much is being paid. Giuffre settled for US $500,000 for her court case against Epstein which had to be worth a huge amount more than her claim against Andrew

The settlement with Epstein means nothing. VR and the other victims were completely shafted by the legal system in the US. Their main goal was to make the whole thing go away and they acted illegally to try and achieve this.

The Queen doesn’t put the state first. She puts the Royal family first. I hope this is the beginning of the end for the RF. Heredity monarchy is such a ridiculous notion with no place in the modern world.

Roussette · 17/02/2022 10:34

He sold the ski chalet for something like 25 mil

No he didn't. It was about £16M.

He owed monies on it as a result of not paying fully for it in the first place (court case) That was £5M

He has a mortgage on it.

Roussette · 17/02/2022 10:36

She has generally always put the State first so I will be shocked if she is bailing him out

Which is exactly the reason she will be bailing him out.

Protect the Monarchy at all costs

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 17/02/2022 10:42

I guess either the Queen pays up for his revolting activities or the state of Kazakhstan steps in.

It's really making me look at Harry's pointed remarks about being financially independent away from the family in a whole new light.

TizerorFizz · 17/02/2022 11:11

Harry loaned about his father not giving him money.

x2boys · 17/02/2022 11:28

Well as much as I think he's a despicable person ,The Queen is his mother at the end of the day , whatever the General public may think of PA she probably loves him ,and I think as a whole the Royal family, want to limit the damage to the institution,I'm sure between all of them they can Cobble together 12 million Quid

SageRosemary · 17/02/2022 11:42

I'll just leave this here

fb.watch/bdXqfl4til/

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 17/02/2022 11:44

What does it link to?

Fallsballs · 17/02/2022 11:48

He will probably get it from all his other dodgy deals with the plethora of other dodgy people he knows and a bit from Mammy. It will all be covered up anyway.

SageRosemary · 17/02/2022 12:33

@SpinningTheSeedsOfLove

What does it link to?
I'm presuming that question was for me and not previous link. A comedian singing her version of The Grand Old Duke Of York on Facebook. It's very short, I promise!

fb.watch/bdXqfl4til/

Blossomtoes · 17/02/2022 12:47

Great link @SageRosemary.

YogaLite · 17/02/2022 13:21

With you on this @DingleyDel, how clever the whole nation gets fooled by the importance of RF.

The assets RF were built up because they were tax exempt in the first place for centuries. They don't even disclose their wealth and we still contribute to it through taxes.

Wouldn't miss them if they were all gone tomorrow.

And, my foot, Counsellors of the State? Nodding donkeys to our disgrace of the PM Angry

Wish I could opt out from subsidising them all.

AgentProvocateur · 17/02/2022 13:25

I’m sure we’d all bail our adult children out if we had the means and they were in trouble.

YogaLite · 17/02/2022 13:27

I wonder how much increase in the allowances for RF the parliament will approve and the next opportunity to pay for this settlement.

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 17/02/2022 13:38

The chalet is worth around £18, depending on the source (been reading the Washington Post and the Guardian but can't link right now). It sounds like the property was mortgaged AND looks like he had been sued by he previous owner because he hadn't paid the last instalment of the purchase price. I wonder how many MNrs managed to move into their new home while they still owed the previous owner £5 million Hmm

Make of that what you will. But it sounds as if he did not have the funds to pay for the chalet in the first place. Time for the taxpayer to shut up and cough up again.

sashh · 17/02/2022 13:43

Reports in a few places she has donated £2 million to VG's charity.

www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/royals/queen-2m-virginia-giuffres-charity-andrew-settlement/

Thymeout · 17/02/2022 13:58

I read somewhere that HM didn't want her money to go directly to VG, so any contribution from her will go directly to the charity.

Tax-payers' money paid to Monarch is fully accounted for. Public scrutiny of accounts. Their only privilege is that royal wills are private, unlike the rest of us. He probably got something from the Queen
Mother, possibly also from his father.

Roussette · 17/02/2022 14:21

Their only privilege is that royal wills are private, unlike the rest of us

Not just that. They've opted out of certain regulations and taxes.

There's a history of royal exemptions from taxes. They only started paying taxes on investment income in 1993! And only because of a light shone on it. Prior to that, with a huge share portfolio, this would've saved the Queen and RF millions.

Also the two Duchys act like a company but pay no corporation tax or CGT unlike the public who run companies. Why should the Duchys have such huge competitive advantages in the property market against others?

Then of course IHT... which is why the Queen Mother left her whole £75M estate to the Queen... that meant no IHT.

I know some of the reasons but still think it's a bit rich to be exempted from all these taxes. But hey... we're just the plebs and pay up.

AuntMasha · 17/02/2022 14:26

Won’t PA have been left a fair sum of money from Prince Philip’s estate?