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When will this feeling stop?

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gloss234 · 06/02/2022 18:58

Hi, I’m not really sure what I want from this post but I feel like I need some kind of advice/ vent/ need to know I’m not alone in feeling this way.

I feel like I’m drowning in life is the only way I can describe it. To the outside world my life is going nicely , twin 5 year old DS, a loving partner who does his fair share and works very hard for us. I am a SAHM but also study full time with the OU and am in the final year of a bachelors degree. We have a nice home, however it was always a starter home and we have now outgrown but don’t have the money to move. We have a rescue dog, the full lovely picture but I’m not happy.

I feel incredibly guilty everyday for not loving my life. I do love my children with everything I am but parenting is not what I thought and I feel in a constant state of overwhelm and underwhelm with life. My OH would like to have another child and I’m not fully opposed to this (obviously not while feeling like this) however it would mean me staying at home after my degree finishes because of how ridiculous childcare is in our area (even if we could afford it there is not enough childcare to go around). It also makes me feel my degree and all the hard work I’ve put in to it would be for nothing (although I already feel I will be able to do very little with it in any case) but then feel this intense feeling of a ticking clock when it comes to having more children even though I’m only 28. This decision is also made more complex by one of my twins being on the autism diagnosis pathway. His needs may or may not become more complex as he gets older and obviously another child or possibly another two (non-identical twins) feels unfair on him and them.

I love my family but I feel like a complete zombie. My children sleep well and I get enough sleep but I feel immense pressure to be everything for them and to them while feeling like I’m going insane and that I have no life of my own, no wants and needs of my own. I live in a constant state of thinking what I should be doing for others.
When people say have a bath and have some me time. I do get that, it never feels enough, it never stops the feeling of constant overwhelm/ underwhelm of life.
Coupled with the intense feeling of guilt that I’m not enjoying my little boys, I love them so so much but I miss having a life of my own.
This is massively exacerbated by my OHs overbearing and judgemental family. Every move I make is discussed and criticised by them and I’m aware this has taken a huge tole on me and how I think about life. I feel trapped though because I love my OH but not his family. Me and OHs sister have a very complex relationship, she is one of my closest friends but also reports what I say to her mum and step mum who both critique me hugely. OH family also add pressure in different ways because OH Mum and step dad live one hour away and OH dad, sister and step mum live over 4 hours away from us. They still expect to see us regularly. This adds so much pressure as I feel as though I’m always letting others down because now DTs are older and want to do clubs/ see friends/ birthday parties on the weekend, it means we have little time to travel all over the country visiting family on the weekends and they all make it abundantly clear how much they want to see us and this makes me feel intense pressure to fit it in somewhere. Despite feeling uncomfortable in their company due to every move I make being examined. OHs sister does make effort to see us despite having a small child herself which I am great full for and the truth is we could have her stay but that would mean allowing my house up for critique, my safe haven and I just don’t want to, this makes me feel even more guilty.

This is made even more complex by my relationship with my own family which is strained at the best of times because of a horrible childhood which I still haven’t forgiven my mother or sister for. They’re amazing to DTs though so I keep contact open for them. But again they live over an hour away and they want to see DTs but aren’t as overbearing with their demands to see us as OHs family.

We’ve just come home from a whole weekend spent with OHs family which will only keep them at bay for two weeks at most.

Sometimes and it pains me to say this because I love my DTs more than anything, but sometimes I just want to give up. I feel like they’d all be happier without me. I feel like I’m stopping everyone from being happy because I’m so miserable all the time for no apparent reason. I feel very lonely which I know will be the main cause of me feeling the way I do but I can’t reach out to anyone (I will often make dates with friends and then come up with an excuse to cancel because I can’t cope with the effort involved in seeing them and also don’t want them to see how miserable I am and cba with the effort of acting happy) because the effort that it takes to connect with people is just not something I have. So I go round in this constant cycle of feeling very detached from people but also isolating myself. It’s a horrible existence and not something I would wish on my worst enemy. I desperately want things to get better but it feels hopeless at this point.

If you’ve got this far, thank you. Like I say I’m not sure in the point to this but it feels good to let it all out to strangers for some weird reason.

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LlamaLucy · 06/02/2022 20:57

What job will you be starting after you graduate? Maybe this will be a welcome change in your life, and will put the family into perspective - they need to learn that your life comes first, before them and their preferences. You do you! Also, I am no Dr, but this sounds like a spot of depression too. Wishing you well x

Mossstitch · 06/02/2022 21:09

Think I'd be tempted to get a weekend job. OH can look after children, you get some time to be you instead of mum and, best of all, perfect excuse to not travel to see your in laws😉💐

gloss234 · 06/02/2022 21:26

@LlamaLucy

What job will you be starting after you graduate? Maybe this will be a welcome change in your life, and will put the family into perspective - they need to learn that your life comes first, before them and their preferences. You do you! Also, I am no Dr, but this sounds like a spot of depression too. Wishing you well x
Not sure at the moment. It won't be anything to do with my actual degree. Yes probably right with the depression!
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gloss234 · 06/02/2022 21:27

@Mossstitch

Think I'd be tempted to get a weekend job. OH can look after children, you get some time to be you instead of mum and, best of all, perfect excuse to not travel to see your in laws😉💐
I have tried this before and unfortunately it just added even more stress and wasn't viable for family life x
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AuntyMabelandPippin · 06/02/2022 21:39

You're depressed. Please see your GP.

gloss234 · 06/02/2022 21:46

@AuntyMabelandPippin

You're depressed. Please see your GP.
I hear you. Unfortunately it's not that simple ! It's very easy to put my problems out to the world on a non-identifiable user name but to let the real world know? Absolutely no chance.
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BrokenLink · 06/02/2022 21:48

Maybe you are depressed because you are spending so much time visiting people you don't want to. You don't owe them anything. If DH wants to take the children to see his family that's the perfect opportunity to have some me time. Have you thought of having therapy to address your childhood?

gloss234 · 06/02/2022 21:56

@BrokenLink

Maybe you are depressed because you are spending so much time visiting people you don't want to. You don't owe them anything. If DH wants to take the children to see his family that's the perfect opportunity to have some me time. Have you thought of having therapy to address your childhood?
You could be right! I do this occasionally but always feel I need to come up with an excuse as to why I can't be there. I can't exactly say I'm not attending because I just don't want to. Not every time anyway. I can't cut ties with them completely because they're my OH family and he loved them and I love him. I think this is half the battle, I am putting pressure on myself to spend time with people who dislike me and who I dislike. But I feel so far in that o can't get out, if that makes sense?
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gloss234 · 06/02/2022 21:58

@BrokenLink

Maybe you are depressed because you are spending so much time visiting people you don't want to. You don't owe them anything. If DH wants to take the children to see his family that's the perfect opportunity to have some me time. Have you thought of having therapy to address your childhood?
And yes have had spots of therapy over the years. Unfortunately I have the inability to tell the complete truth in real life, even to a therapist that I am paying! Perhaps because I don't want to come to terms with some of the things that happened to me. It seems far easier to bury those things deep inside than to speak them out loud.
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BlackeyedSusan · 06/02/2022 22:07

Is your oh pressuring you to see family? If so you have a problem with him. This seems from what you have written to be a cause of unhappiness. See what you can do to cut back on visiting. Extend the time between visits gradually. Put it off an extra week each time as the kids are doing xyor z.

Don't tell your sil anything. She is is not on your side.

gloss234 · 06/02/2022 22:15

@BlackeyedSusan

Is your oh pressuring you to see family? If so you have a problem with him. This seems from what you have written to be a cause of unhappiness. See what you can do to cut back on visiting. Extend the time between visits gradually. Put it off an extra week each time as the kids are doing xyor z.

Don't tell your sil anything. She is is not on your side.

No he doesn't pressure me, he's quite happy to see them on his own. The thing is one side of his family live in the same town as my family. So while we're there we try to visit my family to, to minimise the number of visits and weekends taken up travelling. And although he wouldn't mind visiting my family with the children on the odd occasion on his own, all the time is a bit too much to expect of him I think. I guess I could stay at my family's while he went there but I wouldn't want to stay there in my own either to be honest. It's just a horrible situation and one I feel trapped in.
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gloss234 · 06/02/2022 22:17

@BlackeyedSusan

Is your oh pressuring you to see family? If so you have a problem with him. This seems from what you have written to be a cause of unhappiness. See what you can do to cut back on visiting. Extend the time between visits gradually. Put it off an extra week each time as the kids are doing xyor z.

Don't tell your sil anything. She is is not on your side.

And the other side of OH family live over 4 hours away which means an over night stay and while I wouldn't mind him and the children being away for once in a blue moon without me, I obviously wouldn't want to spend that much time away from them on the regular.
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PerseverancePays · 06/02/2022 22:30

There are several things here that jump out,
As pp have suggested, depression colours everything grey. Talking to your Dr is not 'letting the real world know', it is strictly between your Dr and you. Therapy combined with AD often works more effectively than just one or the other. You have realised that the burden of carrying your trauma is not 'easier' than actually dealing with it.
Boundaries, yours and your H's family don't seem to have any and they are walking all over you. Maybe you could start some therapy with working on how to create boundaries and sticking to them. You need to regain your sense of self before you think about having/not having another baby.
Work, well done with sticking with the OU, distance learning is tough. Again, work with your therapist on your actual ambitions , then work with your husband on how to make it happen. You are not a household appliance, you are a person and your feelings and ambitions deserve as much room to flourish as he does.
Practice the grey rock technique and drop the rope with both lots of family, they are being ridiculous.

Tulips21 · 06/02/2022 22:36

@BrokenLink

Maybe you are depressed because you are spending so much time visiting people you don't want to. You don't owe them anything. If DH wants to take the children to see his family that's the perfect opportunity to have some me time. Have you thought of having therapy to address your childhood?
Agree. Cut ties with the famiies- go low contact. You dont have to deal with them nearly every weekend esp if they make you feel crap. Tell your Dh too how you feel and suggest he takes the dc to his family.

Perhaps seek a professional for your own childhood and your current feelings in general

gloss234 · 06/02/2022 22:43

@PerseverancePays

There are several things here that jump out, As pp have suggested, depression colours everything grey. Talking to your Dr is not 'letting the real world know', it is strictly between your Dr and you. Therapy combined with AD often works more effectively than just one or the other. You have realised that the burden of carrying your trauma is not 'easier' than actually dealing with it. Boundaries, yours and your H's family don't seem to have any and they are walking all over you. Maybe you could start some therapy with working on how to create boundaries and sticking to them. You need to regain your sense of self before you think about having/not having another baby. Work, well done with sticking with the OU, distance learning is tough. Again, work with your therapist on your actual ambitions , then work with your husband on how to make it happen. You are not a household appliance, you are a person and your feelings and ambitions deserve as much room to flourish as he does. Practice the grey rock technique and drop the rope with both lots of family, they are being ridiculous.
Everything that you've said is absolutely correct! However that may be the answer but getting there is not as simple as that. When I say the real world I was referring to not an online username that's not identifiable. Getting things out in real life is really tricky for me and I'm no where near as articulate in real life as I may appear to be on here. Also financially therapy is not an option right now. I would love to do as you suggest and just not see both sides of family but the drama that would create causes so much anxiety and stress it feels non achievable and yes I'm aware this is me not backing up my boundaries but I'm tired. It's easier to give in to them and be unhappy than the stress it would cause going against what they want.
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KeepGrowing · 06/02/2022 23:10

Bloody hell no wonder you feel drained, your free time isn't your own.
I would definitely cut back on how frequently you spend time with arrogant people,people who are making you feel worthless and who undermine you.
You can do this politely, and hopefully your husband will support you with this change.
I don't mean this to sound nasty but I detect that you may need to be more assertive with these people and look out for your own needs.
Also practice letting go of controlling as many things as you are now, it is liberating once you start.
Your children have other humans to learn from and steer them, so take the pressure off of yourself.

KeepGrowing · 06/02/2022 23:13

P.s if you feel anxious,acknowledging it can be the first step to improving your life.
Talking to a GP isn't a sign of weakness - take all the support you are offered.

KeepGrowing · 06/02/2022 23:25

Control Is a interesting one I always think.

We need control over our lives so we
can feel calm and not railroaded into things we don't agree with.
But
We sometimes need to let go a bit of controlling things and let others help us so that we don't burn ourselves out.

I had over bearing in laws at one time.
I was fond of them, but they all oozed confidence and were arrogant,actually!
It made me feel crap.
I lost my confidence and myself.

CookieMunch · 06/02/2022 23:29

What about writing out or printing out your OP and giving that to your GP to read at the appointment? The GP will totally understand if you prefer to do it that way. Or what about a call to a helpline like the Samaritans where you can stay anonymous but get some support? I think hanging around with people who criticise you will be very damaging right now and also you need a break. I think you should send OH away with kids on his own for the next couple of trips and give yourself some time to relax and start to feel better. Does your OH step in and tell his family to stop criticising? This is really important. He must start doing that if he’s not already doing so. Ultimately you need to distance yourself from anyone making you feel bad at least until you are feeling much stronger (but ideally permanently!)

gloss234 · 06/02/2022 23:36

@KeepGrowing

Control Is a interesting one I always think.

We need control over our lives so we
can feel calm and not railroaded into things we don't agree with.
But
We sometimes need to let go a bit of controlling things and let others help us so that we don't burn ourselves out.

I had over bearing in laws at one time.
I was fond of them, but they all oozed confidence and were arrogant,actually!
It made me feel crap.
I lost my confidence and myself.

Thank you keep I know what you say is the truth. I know I need to start putting some boundaries in place and start taking care of my own mental state. I guess I'm worried due to past experience with in laws they can be nasty and it has caused arguments with me and OH in the past because he's terrified to upset them. He doesn't want to upset me either and I've not wanted to put him in that position again but I know I need to start setting firm boundaries and not be wishy washy with them. I guess I've been doing it for so long now it's become a very unhealthy relationship with them all and I have let them walk all over me for a happy life. But I'm not happy so that does need to stop!
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gloss234 · 06/02/2022 23:39

@CookieMunch

What about writing out or printing out your OP and giving that to your GP to read at the appointment? The GP will totally understand if you prefer to do it that way. Or what about a call to a helpline like the Samaritans where you can stay anonymous but get some support? I think hanging around with people who criticise you will be very damaging right now and also you need a break. I think you should send OH away with kids on his own for the next couple of trips and give yourself some time to relax and start to feel better. Does your OH step in and tell his family to stop criticising? This is really important. He must start doing that if he’s not already doing so. Ultimately you need to distance yourself from anyone making you feel bad at least until you are feeling much stronger (but ideally permanently!)
This is a good idea! I may do that, the problem is I guess that tomorrow is a new day and I may feel better in the morning and just scrape it under the carpet. I know I shouldn't, I know I should see a GP. I feel like they will laugh at me which I know is ridiculous and comes from my own low self confidence. I honestly don't know how I've got to the point I have of feeling so low that I can't talk to a health professional for fear of being laughed at, it's so silly!
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Nsky · 06/02/2022 23:45

Why can’t his family come to you?
Too much travelling on your part

KeepGrowing · 06/02/2022 23:46

If you really want 'this feeling to stop '
offloading to people is the way.
Talk to your husband.
Is there a FLO at the school?

User8721643839 · 06/02/2022 23:51

Knock the fortnightly visits on the head for a start

PerseverancePays · 06/02/2022 23:59

If you can't afford therapy just now, put that on hold but keep it as something to work towards that is important. You can still go and see your Dr. You can print off an online form that shows a list of symptoms of depression and tick off all the ones that apply to you and give that to your Dr if you find talking difficult. AD take several weeks to kick in so have patience.
Exercise is a good activity for your brain and it is also hobby time away from your family. It doesn't matter what you pick as long as you do it regularly and it gives you time off. Walking is free.
Assertiveness: youtube , books, library, podcasts, all are valuable. Also look up toxic families. Start listening and reading and watching and gradually you will change your outlook. If you can stick to an OU degree you can learn this. You are going against a lifetime of being told to 'be nice' even if it kills you. You don't have to be horrible, just that you don't have to always do it their way. Once in a while it can be your way. When they have got over whining about that do it again, and so on. Slowly, slowly, so you have time to absorb, and learn and change and grow.
Practise saying 'that doesn't work for me', it's very liberating and by golly girl, you need liberating!