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Bulb entering administration, where to go for decent energy prices?

28 replies

Ghoulette · 22/11/2021 12:52

Here

I'm glad I didn't take the advice from here NOT to remove my credit with them when all this started Hmm

Any recommendations? Any companies that are safe, but not overly expensive (even with prices going up the way they are)?

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Trampoline11 · 22/11/2021 12:57

Well, they didn't tell me! Watching with interest as I won't know what to do!

RainingYetAgain · 22/11/2021 12:58

Wait to be transferred.
There was something on R4 orogramme You and Yours a bit earlier which said companies won't let new customers have the standard tariff but insist they go on a "deal" which is dearer.

MrsMoastyToasty · 22/11/2021 13:00

The Martin Lewis Money Show did a thing about this a couple of weeks ago. His advice was to let them transfer you to the new supplier and stay on the standard rate until the fixed deals are more favourable.

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StopGo · 22/11/2021 13:00

You have to wait to be transferred. I’m going through the same after Igloo folded. I’ve been allocated E.on Next but it’s so slow and I have no control. I’m dreading the bill.

ColinTheKoala · 22/11/2021 13:00

I'm glad I didn't take the advice from here NOT to remove my credit with them when all this started

you don't lose your credit, it gets transferred to your new supplier of last resort

DialsMavis · 22/11/2021 13:02

Oh that is good to know re:credit, we have £350 of credit with Bulb

justabigdisco · 22/11/2021 13:04

I’m with Bulb. Martin Lewis has just said on Twitter NOT to change supplier but sit tight.

Internetio · 22/11/2021 13:05

Bulb customers are staying with bulb- it’s been put Into special administration and will be run on behalf of the government by ofgem; presumably no other supplier was willing to take on 1.7mil customers at a huge loss 🤷🏼‍♀️

Internetio · 22/11/2021 13:06

Here’s the bbc breaking news

Bulb entering administration, where to go for decent energy prices?
Glinsk · 22/11/2021 13:07

Dont do anything, you won't lose your credit. There are no "deals" which are cheaper than standard rate tariff because that's capped at below cost atm which is why companies are desperate for you to choose one of their fixed rate (more expensive) tariffs.

Mouseonmychair · 22/11/2021 13:07

So the government is supplying energy at a loss. Scrap the stupid price cap force suppliers to buy electricity on advance and stop using my tax money to subsidize the customers of companies that cannot plan ahead.

Florencenotflo · 22/11/2021 13:17

I'm with them as well, I've got £250 credit with them, but from what I've read that will transfer over if we end up being moved. I'd been meaning to move for months but never got round to it.

Will see what happens in the next few weeks.

BarbaraofSeville · 22/11/2021 14:32

@Mouseonmychair

So the government is supplying energy at a loss. Scrap the stupid price cap force suppliers to buy electricity on advance and stop using my tax money to subsidize the customers of companies that cannot plan ahead.
Yes, just double everyone's utility bills going into winter. Great idea.
GrrrlPwr · 22/11/2021 14:34

Oh bloody hell. Was hoping they could avoid it.

UniformSchmooniform · 22/11/2021 14:39

I was switched following collapse and stupidly tried to switch myself to another third party with a cheap deal at the same time thinking I was getting ahead of the game. Nope. It created no end of problems as it went through but then it stalled and then my new designated supplier wanted a direct debit so did the old supplier and my new chosen one... Managed to cancel third one within cooling off period thankfully and now just waiting for designated one to square things off... It's sorted now but just hang fire and wait for your switch to go through. It can take weeks for administration to bugger about and finalise. We will all just have to sort the mess out afterwards but credits are protected and rates are still hot so no real point in switching now anyway.

Madmog · 22/11/2021 15:11

Their blog says tariffs aren't changing. Hopefully that means prices will stay the same for now, so we have some certainty over energy prices during the coldest months of the year.

I read before it's good to have a copy of your most current statement and also meter readings at point an energy company goes into administration, so I've just downloaded the last statement and submitted today's meter readings, having taken a copy.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 22/11/2021 16:00

If this can happen to the 7th largest energy firm in the UK (1.5 million customers) then it makes you wonder who's going to be next.
I really thought Bulb would be ok.

Gladioli23 · 22/11/2021 16:06

They aren't moving Bulb's customers I don't think, so there's no further action required as you won't get a better price elsewhere I think (all Bulb customers are on the standard variable tariff which I think will have hit the cap by now).

PalmLady · 22/11/2021 17:10

I'm in credit with Bulb. Should I cancel my direct debit for next month or will that ruin my move over to the new supplier? I can't find any information online. My credit will cover about two months worth of gas and electric and my direct debit is due on the 1st December.

1dayatatime · 23/11/2021 09:41

@BarbaraofSeville

Mouseonmychair
So the government is supplying energy at a loss. Scrap the stupid price cap force suppliers to buy electricity on advance and stop using my tax money to subsidize the customers of companies that cannot plan ahead.
Yes, just double everyone's utility bills going into winter. Great idea.

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With the Government effectively taking over Bulb, the cost to the taxpayer just to get the former Bulb and its customers through this winter is at least £1 billion, with no exit strategy planned after winter.

Personally I would prefer £1 billion of taxpayers money to be spent on things like free school meals during school holidays. And if that means former Bulb customers pay more for gas and electricity then so be it.

I don't get compensation from the Government if a badly made car a buy breaks down beyond repair forcing me to replace it at a higher cost. So why should taxpayers money effectively be used to support former Bulb customers because the company was badly run and didn't hedge their price risk?

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/11/2021 11:06

We're with bulb - well over £300 of credit - although they kept urging me to increase our monthly DD, as it 'wouldn't cover our Winter usage' (we'll see about that down the line, eh?).

When I heard the news yesterday, my instinct was to cancel the DD, rather than build up more credit, but seeing the situation in more detail, I'm happy to sit tight.

I suppose this is sort of the same principle as the old saying "If you owe the bank £100,000, you have a problem; if you owe the bank £100 million, they have a problem." Nobody is willing/able to absorb 1.7m customers, so the government has to step in. We're still with Bulb, just like before, but now run/underwritten by the govt.

I'm wondering if this could be the beginning of re-nationalisation, actually. As PP asked, if the 7th biggest energy company can fail, how rock solid are the first 6 biggest? We've seen the 'have a go' minnows fall, but now we really are getting to the big guns.

Those of us old enough to remember when there was just one company that supplied your energy - like the regional water companies still do - will recall when privatisation and competition was heralded as the new, better way for consumers: enable you to shop around and market forces would mean you'd save yourself a fortune. Never really quite happened that way, did it....

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 23/11/2021 11:22

With the Government effectively taking over Bulb, the cost to the taxpayer just to get the former Bulb and its customers through this winter is at least £1 billion, with no exit strategy planned after winter.

Personally I would prefer £1 billion of taxpayers money to be spent on things like free school meals during school holidays. And if that means former Bulb customers pay more for gas and electricity then so be it.

I don't get compensation from the Government if a badly made car a buy breaks down beyond repair forcing me to replace it at a higher cost. So why should taxpayers money effectively be used to support former Bulb customers because the company was badly run and didn't hedge their price risk?

That's a very fair point, but what else can they do if there's nobody else to take over 1.7m customers? It sounds like this was a direct result of government policy over price caps, so what alternative could there be? If they were to suddenly scrap the price caps, that would cause huge chaos across the board and then negate any confidence in similar government guarantees in the future. If you have a safety net that gets removed at the very moment you need it most, you never had a safety net in the first place.

I suppose there's a sort of parallel with your car analogy in what we saw with Rover: if a few individuals have problems with their cars, nobody cares, but when huge numbers of people are affected - motorists, workers, suppliers - something has to happen from the top.

We simply can't just leave 1.7m households without gas and electricity. Also, don't forget that all those Bulb customers aren't Lloyds Names: they're just ordinary folk. There will be plenty amongst them who could easily afford to pay more, but equally, there will be loads of the very people in poverty and desperately relying on those free school meals that you mention.

UniformSchmooniform · 23/11/2021 12:07

Definitely download statements and details of your account balance whilst you can. Bulbs online presence might disappear or be swamped and crash like others have post collapse.

Oftenithinkaboutit · 25/11/2021 17:11

Apparently we are not going to be transferred as can’t be for some reason
Instead the government is going to shore up bulb

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 25/11/2021 17:14

@Mouseonmychair

So the government is supplying energy at a loss. Scrap the stupid price cap force suppliers to buy electricity on advance and stop using my tax money to subsidize the customers of companies that cannot plan ahead.
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