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In a relationship with my partner & his Mum!

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Emily920 · 16/11/2021 19:29

Hi All,

Me and my partner have been together 11 years. He is full greek and had a very traditional greek upbringing, I however am half greek and had a very English upbringing. The first year of our relationship was perfect, it was long distance but it worked. I then moved in with him and his family to build a life together. I give up everything I knew to be with him and support his family through an IVA and pay off debt, I worked without being paid and I tolerated arguments, sarcastic comments and control. I decided to leave and move back to my home town in which my partner followed. His mum at the time didn’t speak to him for 5 months because of this. We eventually made up and we moved back and forth between each of our home towns because I always tried to do what he wanted so he was happy but I was just fooling myself that his narcissistic controlling mother would let us live happy. I fell pregnant in 2017 and at the time we were getting along however when she found out I was pregnant, she lost it. She was more concerned about the shame it would bring on the family and the fact that our child was a “bastard eligitimate child” because it was conceived whilst we were not married and she wanted nothing to do with it. In this moment we had been living at her house in an extension we built however we quickly move into our own place down the road. I moved out when I was 4 months pregnant and I hadn’t spoken to her until 2 weeks before our baby was due. I squashed it for the sake of our baby and I even let her be in the delivery room to see her first grandchild be born because my partner was begging me.

2 weeks after giving birth, she resurfaced old wounds and started talking about how there past made her feel and how I disrespected her and was seriously not letting go of it. I had enough, I told my partner I can’t do it anymore on top of just having a baby so I made arrangements to move back to my hometown so I was close to my family.

Fast forward 3 years, we have now been here 3 years and I haven’t spoken a single word to his family since.

I have always known my partner was really close to his mum and at first I really liked it but over time I noticed she had such a hold on him financially and in his every day life decisions. They have always spoken quite a lot on the phone (6-7 times per day, every day!) and again, at first I used to find it cute but now I don’t speak to her, I find it very invasive. My partner takes our daughter to stay with his family every other weekend so they get to spend time with her and sometimes he goes a few weekends in a row, I really try not to get in between that because I want her to have a relationship with them but at the same time, I am concerned my partner cares more about them spending time with her than he does about us spending time together as a family.

He makes big life decisions without me and consults with his mum, it doesn’t matter what I say as long as his mum agrees and if she doesn’t then he won’t do it. He says it’s a “respect” thing and I don’t understand because I was brought up very different.

He recently brought a car for £12,000 which is a lot of money and I didn’t even know he had brought it until he arranged to go and pick it up which by the way he is taking his mum with him. This means that what should be a couple of hours out the house has now resulted in him being away the whole weekend so that he can go and get her, get the car, go back to her house, spend the night there and come back the next evening. Bare in mind, he has already been with her the last 2 weekends with our daughter.

He also doesn’t invite to family events anymore like cousins weddings etc because he would rather go with his family and our daughter than take me and it be awkward.

I have tried explaining to him that this makes me feel like there is another women even though that other women is his mum. I feel like he is cheating on me and I’m just completely left out but when I say it he thinks I’m trying to ruin his relationship with his mum.

I’m not sure I can do it anymore but my daughter is the centre of both of our worlds. What can I do to get him to realise that WE are his family and WE also matter without sounding like a Jelous bitter partner??

I suppose I am slightly jelous but only because Whilst he shows her so much attention, I don’t have a partner and it’s starting to really get to me. I want someone that is going to stand up for me and show the world that we are a family and united, i truly believe if he did that, he would actually get respect from his parents instead of them laughing at him because he has “ruined” his life because he hasn’t done it the way they would of wanted him to do it.

Sorry for the essay but wanted to give you a full picture so you can give me your clear judgement. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you xxxx

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CloseYourEyesAndSee · 16/11/2021 19:33

You can't do anything. Surely after 11 years you know that?
You'd have much more of a life if you divorced him and let him take her to mummy every other weekend.

InTheCludgie · 16/11/2021 19:38

@CloseYourEyesAndSee

You can't do anything. Surely after 11 years you know that? You'd have much more of a life if you divorced him and let him take her to mummy every other weekend.
This. You're never going to change him, he doesn't put you first and doesn't even want you at family events so he can avoid upsetting mummy. Plus 6 to 7 times a day on the phone to her is just plain weird.
crumble82 · 16/11/2021 19:39

Sounds hard OP and it doesn’t sound like he’s particularly interested in changing. Out of interest does your DD like going to his parents so often?

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Emily920 · 16/11/2021 19:44

@crumble82 She always says she doesn’t want to go but once she is there she has a great time.

My partner hates it when she is poorly and she can’t go, he’s in a mood the whole weekend.

It’s like if he doesn’t go one weekend, he’s scared his mum is going to go mad at him for getting in between her relationship with her grandchild. She is very much like this and can make you feel bad about anything!!!

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Aquamarine1029 · 16/11/2021 19:47

Why are you being such a doormat? This is ridiculous.

Shoxfordian · 16/11/2021 19:47

He’s the problem here
You’re never going to be the number one woman in his life. Why are you putting up with this?

uhohspaghettiohh · 16/11/2021 19:52

Why do you take this behaviour?

Leave him and let him take your daughter on his weekends. I couldn't be doing with him.

alexdgr8 · 16/11/2021 19:55

you know you are going to have to separate; better sooner than later.
he doesn't want to put you first. for whatever reason.
don't waste time agonising over it, analysing.

he chooses to make an idol out of his mother. and worship at her feet.
good luck.

GertietheGherkin · 16/11/2021 19:58

I think by now you've realised where you feature in the pecking order of your partners' family
Sadly now after so long that will never change... Why should they consider you, or your feelings? They are ticking along just great. You've left it too long to try and shift the dynamic. They're going to family get togethers and functions and they're not the slightest bit bothered that you're not there. Your child too has obviously come to accept this as the norm.

Even if you split, you'll still be in the same situation. Your partner will have access to your child, and the situation will be as it is now.

Your partner is happy that you're off the scene as he's no longer at logger heads with his family over you. They're regularly getting together and getting on great. Why would they change things?

You are going to have to either get on with his family or remain on the outside. I'm assuming your DD was born in Greece? Also is your home town where your family live in Greece?

One thing's for sure your partner is never going to put you first over his mother, she carries far too much importance in his life. In her eyes you've provided her son with a child, whilst you're off the scene her illegitimacy claims can be quashed as you not being around sweeps that under the carpet, as your DD is in their eyes being raised within their family and not with you much

It looks like you're being shifted out further and further
You need to be careful, as one day you might find your partner has gotten married, and he won't bring your DD back.

VickyLouT · 16/11/2021 20:05

Just wondering how this has worked out over lockdowns, surely over the past 18 months you have had the perfect reason to focus on your own household family?

Emily920 · 16/11/2021 20:11

@GertietheGherkin I know exactly where I feature in the pecking order and it’s last. I sometimes ask myself if I should be first or am I being a bitch? Should i as his wife be more important than his own mother? My honest answer is no, but I should be as important because it takes a lot of work to maintain a relationship and if not done right, it can end whereas family love unconditional.

No she wasn’t born in Greece, she was born in the UK and we all live in the UK. We live approximately 80 miles away from each other so he travels every other weekend, he doesn’t think that’s enough and would like to take her every weekend but I work all week and I want to spend time with my daughter too.

Your absolutely right about them thinking that they are raising her and although it’s all ticking along for them, his mum is not the type of person to let things go. I can imagine she talks about me all weekend and it’s not nice things. She hates me for taking her “son” away. When it was her that drove us away but she cannot accept that.

When I speak to my partner, he dismisses the conversation, he never wants to talk about it and just brushes it under the Carpet which is making me even more frustrated and building a lot of resentment.

I want to try relationship therapy to help get him to understand that this isn’t right and it’s not ok to shut me out or consider me last but I’m not sure if too much has happened.

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Emily920 · 16/11/2021 20:14

@VickyLouT Lockdown was nice but it made the phone-calls with his mum even worse. They would face time 5-6 times a day and I felt awkward in my own home. I didn’t want to walk past the camera or talk and I told him that it made me feel uncomfortable and that I don’t mind once a day but not 5-6. He again, thinks I’m being a bitch and trying to ruin his relationship with his mum.

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Hodgehog · 16/11/2021 20:32

Well you’ve put up with a mummy’s boy for years and even had a child with him despite this. I can’t really understand why did but that was clearly your choice.

As a result you don’t have many choices as it’s clear he won’t cut the apron strings.

Decide if you are willing to put up with it or separate. That’s pretty much what it boils down to.

DroopyClematis · 16/11/2021 20:35

This.

Emily920 · 16/11/2021 21:03

@Hodgehog Prior to us having a baby, was living with his family and although I knew he was very close with his mum, he was always considerate of me and he used to talk to me all the time about how his mum made him feel and the control she had over his mind so I really appreciated him opening up to me and although it was complicated, I could see a future together at that point.

Not once did I think that he would shut off from me and basically put me in a cupboard and hope I stay there.

It makes it harder after having a child aswell because we had a lot of time to talk when it was just us whereas we really struggle to find the time to communicate now so when we do it’s rushed and he just shuts it down which means it lingers.

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angeltattoo · 16/11/2021 21:05

I could not let my daughter go to someone who treats me like that EOW, hell I couldn't be without her that much for someone who loved and respected me!!! How on earth have you got into such a situation? Like hell would my child be away from me to the extent out of choice.

The fact that your partner thinks that's not enough and he'd happily take your child and leave you each and every weekend, tells you everything.

Yes you should be put first and foremost, you and your daughter are his family but sadly he's never made the leap.

OP, he won't change. Can you change things to suit you?

Hodgehog · 16/11/2021 21:06

You’ve said you had to work for free and help pay off his family’s debt though ? What did he do about any of that ?

Emily920 · 16/11/2021 21:11

@angeltattoo Honestly, it’s not worth it. The drama and pain I would cause by doing that is just not worth it. His dad and sister are actually really lovely people and I do it for them more than I do for her and my daughter does enjoy going there.

I also know they love my daughter very very much so I have to put my feelings aside because it’s important my daughter is not in the middle of conflict.

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Riverlee · 16/11/2021 21:11

To quote Princess Di, there’s three in the relationship.

I can’t quite believe dh and dc visit the in-laws every other weekend. It’s like they’re the divorced parents with visitation rights.

You have three options

  1. put up with it,
  2. change it - boundaries, reduce weekend visits to once a month, don’t be scared to upset her (and him), put your family first
  3. leave

He’s putting his mum first, but not paying you the same respect as the mother of your/his child.

Riverlee · 16/11/2021 21:13

“ I also know they love my daughter very very much so I have to put my feelings aside because it’s important my daughter is not in the middle of conflict.”

There’s conflict already. Your dd must be aware that you don’t speak to grandma, and are left at home every other weekend. How is this explained to her?

Riverlee · 16/11/2021 21:14

And your dh should be considering your feelings!!!

angeltattoo · 16/11/2021 21:15

[quote Emily920]@angeltattoo Honestly, it’s not worth it. The drama and pain I would cause by doing that is just not worth it. His dad and sister are actually really lovely people and I do it for them more than I do for her and my daughter does enjoy going there.

I also know they love my daughter very very much so I have to put my feelings aside because it’s important my daughter is not in the middle of conflict.[/quote]
I think you're worth it @Emily920 Thanks
You deserve to be loved properly by an equal partner.

Would they persuade your daughter to live with them when she is old enough?

Emily920 · 16/11/2021 21:16

@Hodgehog Nothing at the time, I spoke to him about it the other day and his response to me was “you could have whatever you asked for”

He is missing the fact that I left a very well paid job, I didn’t have to ask anyone for money or explain what I was going to buy, it was MY money whereas if I wanted to go shopping at that time, his mum would decided what my budget was not me. It was all very controlling and at the time I wanted to help because I was so Inlove with him and I wanted to be the “perfect” daughter in law but nothing was ever enough. If I didn’t worship the ground she walked on, waited on her hand and foot, I would know about it. It was like she was a queen and no matter what she deserved the respect irrelevant of how she treated people.

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Emily920 · 16/11/2021 21:20

@Riverlee She is aware and this breaks my heart. She asks me to go with her or when her grandma is on FaceTime she will tell us to say hello to each other but it’s just goes silent.

However, I would rather it be silent than world war 3.

Me and my partner only talk when my daughter is asleep. We do not talk about this in front of her because she absorbs everything!

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Emily920 · 16/11/2021 21:22

@angeltattoo Honestly, yes! His mum is the type of person to try and ruin my life completely. She will do anything to have the power and it’s something I am already conscious about but until it’s done, I’m just guessing… there is a chance I could be wrong

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