More and more younger men loitering in women’s changing rooms

[mvmvmvmv]

Anyone else noticing more and more young straight men going into female changing rooms to help their partners? By going in i mean not going into the cubicle, but going past the changing room entrance and standing in the sort of hallway/corridor bit of the changing rooms. I feel uncomfortable with this as the curtains don’t always close over so they can see in a little bit to all the cubicles, not just their partners.

Have noticed this more and more in “younger” shops such as H&M, Zara etc. The men in question are usually in their 20s.

Each time I challenge and they do leave to be fair.

This is not a trans thread and I have no issue with trans people using the changing cubicles - these are straight men loitering outside the cubicles in the bit where they can see in to all the cubicles.

I’ve not noticed this. I have seen more shops doing unisex cubicles.

Not seen this personally

No. It's not something I've noticed.
I was shopping in the Trafford Centre on Saturday and at Medow Hall midweek in those shops and didnt see that. Lots of couples around.

Interesting I’ve not noticed unisex changing cubicles, perhaps we shop in different places.

This has happened to me probably 50% or the time I’ve gone shopping in the past 2 years - perhaps I just have very bad luck!

No. I usually notice bored men of any age outside waiting for who they are with to come out and show them for opinion.

Those seats used to be SPECIFICALLY for husbands waiting for their wives. In my day It was husbands all sat there looking bored, even reading newspapers. Then their wives would come out to do a twirl and they had to make appreciative noises 😂

I haven't noticed this either.
Where in the country are you OP?

I hate this, I've noticed it too. It winds me up when I have to stride over men standing there with loads of bags. If you're not trying something on yourself, move out of the way! Plus of course it's extra awkward and uncomfortable when the cubicle just has a curtain that doesn't quite cover the full cubicle.

It also annoys me when men hang around women's underwear shops. I don't mind when they're actually buying something, I mean when their partner is shopping and they're just standing there like a lemon. They take up loads of space in what are usually quite small shops. There's no reason why they can't wait outside the shop or go in the shop next door while their partner is looking at knickers.

No? I’ve seen both men and women waiting on the seats provided whilst their partner tries something on but never in the actual changing rooms (apart from gender neutral ones). Wouldn’t they be kicked out?

Where are you based OP?

Yes usually in shops with malfunctioning curtains

I dont try on in store anymore

mvmvmvmv
This is not a trans thread and I have no issue with trans people using the changing cubicles - these are straight men loitering outside the cubicles in the bit where they can see in to all the cubicles

What is the difference in a heterosexual male who also transgender and a heterosexual male who is not transgender?

Hint "Trans" is not another word for gay (homosexual male).

More males have become active consumers of fashion and are interested in what their female partners wear and buy. Add that to change in socially acceptable behaviour around privacy in retail spaces and a lack of staff supervision.

Why are you objecting?

@Holly60

Those seats used to be SPECIFICALLY for husbands waiting for their wives. In my day It was husbands all sat there looking bored, even reading newspapers. Then their wives would come out to do a twirl and they had to make appreciative noises 😂

Or the wives would be waiting outside the mens changing rooms to tell their husbands that they might think they still fitted into a tiny suit but they were deluding themselves.

Why are you objecting?

Perhaps because she doesn't want random blokes seeing her in her panties 🙄

Has all the seating not disappeared due to Covid?

In my day It was husbands all sat there looking bored, even reading newspapers. Then their wives would come out to do a twirl and they had to make appreciative noises 😂
Its exactly tbe same now but they are on their phones rather than reading newspapers.

What is the difference in a heterosexual male who also transgender and a heterosexual male who is not transgender?

Hint "Trans" is not another word for gay (homosexual male).

This. It’s also entirely possible that if you asked any of the men they’d tell you they were non-binary or something. Would that make it acceptable?

@bestcattoyintheworld

Why are you objecting?

Perhaps because she doesn't want random blokes seeing her in her panties 🙄

Yet she is only objecting to some heterosexual males who are shopping with their female or male partner.

@bestcattoyintheworld

Why are you objecting?

Perhaps because she doesn't want random blokes seeing her in her panties 🙄

In any changing room (normally unisex) where there's seating outside the curtains that I've ever been in, anyone waiting for someone trying on clothes makes a conscious effort not to look at the curtains, let alone stare at random women through a tiny crack in the curtain who are going to have their underwear on show for a matter of seconds

No, but did see a bloke go with his female partner into the women’s toilets at an airport a few years. Stood about while she was changing their baby.

I tried to reserve judgement as there could have been a hidden disability, but the fact he just stood there tends to make me think not! Assuming there wasn’t, the behaviour strikes me as very arrogant and lacking in awareness.

Do you mean the corridor with cubicles? So if your curtain was open, they'd see straight in?

If so, YANBU, if you mean the bit before that then YABU.

@TheAntiGardener

No, but did see a bloke go with his female partner into the women’s toilets at an airport a few years. Stood about while she was changing their baby.

I tried to reserve judgement as there could have been a hidden disability, but the fact he just stood there tends to make me think not! Assuming there wasn’t, the behaviour strikes me as very arrogant and lacking in awareness.

Could be either, but i bet if you looked in the mens there was no baby changing area and no dedicated unisex area either.

Family member had a baby who could end up needing a full wash and change of all clothing. Once baby could move it was difficult to manage single handed in a public changing area.

Not noticed it, although often there is a seating area beyond the entrance so who can blame them for perhaps wanting to sit down?

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

@SolasAnla why would he need baby changing facilities in the men's if he's not going to change the baby? I strongly believe that there should be baby changing in the men's, but in this situation, it's just a bloke in the women's toilets hanging around whilst his partner changes a baby.

Even though you say “this isn’t a trans post” unfortunately the two things are connected.

As extremist transactivism has pushed the idea of self- I’d and “transwomen are women” previously safe single-sex spaces are now seen to be available to anyone because the strong social sanctions on any masculine looking people (and many transwomen are still easily identified as masculine-looking) hanging around has disappeared.

Many Women say they no longer feel they can challenge men/transwomen in changing rooms or toilets or wherever. Because of all the”I’m a woman if I say I am” and shops and businesses caving in and allowing anyone to use whichever change room they feel comfortable in. Never mind that others feel uncomfortable.

I would be complaining to the store about the fact that their changing facilties don’t provide privacy. The curtains should fully close. I wouldn’t want anyone being able to see it!