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Eviction from care home - what will happen?

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54321nought · 11/08/2021 01:29

Any experiences or insights of knowledge about what is likely to happen?

The dispute is over who pays the fees, the resident has been given a date to leave by, which is this week. The resident will not be leaving on that date, but is expecting to leave around a week later.

I am assuming there will be no physical eviction, or will there be? Will it take time to get a court order, as in evicting a tenant? Or will it be possible to evict the resident on the day of the dead line they have been given?

What form will the eviction take? Bailiffs etc? ( resident cannot walk)

And if not evicted on the day of the deadline, what will happen after that, between the deadline day and the day they actually leave?

They are dependent on staff for care, dressing etc, and taking to the toilet, and of course for being given food.

Will this continue? Or will they be left?

I am assuming care will continue while the individual is in the home, but I am not sure.

Anyone with any knowledge of these situations? It is a Bupa home, if that makes any difference.

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Pissinthepottyplease · 11/08/2021 11:59

@54321nought

although equally, it is possible they will be living independently and working again in a few months, possibly still in a wheel chair
I’m wondering how realistic this is. Has he said this is his likely recovery or the staff at the home. Getting a job in your 60s when disabled, especially in today’s climate is not going to be easy and it sounds like even pre stroke he wasn’t coping well.
User1357 · 11/08/2021 12:03

Can they not get a live in cater and return home?

User1357 · 11/08/2021 12:04

If he gets readmitted to hospital. They would do a discharge package with a hospital bed etc. Also, if he is a candidate for rehabilitation they can send him to a rehabilitation hospital. Some patients are there for months.

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sadie9 · 11/08/2021 12:06

Be very very careful of your own involvement in this.
The less help you offer the more the services will have to step in.
The various services will have to manage the care themselves but only if there is NO ONE on the outside to help out.
If he can't go home then the home will have to find him a bed elsewhere or keep him in.
So keep your distance. Don't give anyone a reason to think you are part of the solution for him.
They won't be leaving him at the bus stop in a wheelchair.
You doing nothing might be the best thing for him.

gogohm · 11/08/2021 12:07

If he needs care for medical reasons this is funded via nhs continuing care and isn't means tested. If he's needs no long require residential care and he's refusing to leave that is where the problem is. Adult social services are set up to deal with these situations, he will need to pay for repairs to his home but they can help him with finding contractors etc. As far as money the answer is to take equity out of the house

Original poster
54321nought · 11/08/2021 12:07

Lots and lots of very helpful contributions here. Thank you all

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TheWholeJingbang · 11/08/2021 12:08

Has anybody got PoA? I’d be getting that in place

EKGEMS · 11/08/2021 12:09

It's certainly not unusual for a post stroke patient to be in denial of their new deficits but to this extent he would be endangering himself to be discharged to home. I cant imagine adult protective services allowing this once they evaluate your friend. Some of the most impulsive and dangerous to themself patients I've dealt with are post stroke ones. Good luck

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54321nought · 11/08/2021 12:10

@TheWholeJingbang

Has anybody got PoA? I’d be getting that in place
Who? not me! There is no one else
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goldfinchfan · 11/08/2021 12:10

Early sixties is not very old.

He could well recover enough to live independently in say sheltered accommodation.
I totally understand why he would not want to sell up and remain a bloody Care Home.
He needs help to get from where he is to an affordable and practical place to call home.

godmum56 · 11/08/2021 12:11

@EKGEMS

It's certainly not unusual for a post stroke patient to be in denial of their new deficits but to this extent he would be endangering himself to be discharged to home. I cant imagine adult protective services allowing this once they evaluate your friend. Some of the most impulsive and dangerous to themself patients I've dealt with are post stroke ones. Good luck
yup, a loss of judgement and/or self control is one of the known outcomes of stroke and other head injuries.
godmum56 · 11/08/2021 12:12

54321nought Wed 11-Aug-21 12:10:12
TheWholeJingbang
Has anybody got PoA? I’d be getting that in place
Who? not me! There is no one else

It would need to go through a court of protection and a professional guardian appointed

goldfinchfan · 11/08/2021 12:13

If you can't bear the thought of losing your autonomy now, that doesn't suddenly change when you're ill or old. What's seen as contrariness or bloody-mindedness is someone's fight for life.

Totally This !

Tyredofallthis1 · 11/08/2021 12:16

Slightly different but I hope worth mentioning. Uncle had vascular dementia, not stroke, but was stubborn, like the sound of your ex. He was telling the District Nurse that I was looking after him so he didn't need carers coming in.

I hadn't physically seen him for a year. I lived a hundred miles away and had a small child. I rang him daily and ordered shopping for him, but I wasn't calling in like he told the District Nurse.

I think that you need to confirm with the care home that he hasn't told people that you are going to care for him and that it's all arranged.

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54321nought · 11/08/2021 12:18

I will do

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Bargebill19 · 11/08/2021 12:24

Have worked in a bupa home a long time ago. On the day of eviction the resident was placed in a wheelchair and left in the reception area for an ambulance to collect. This was at 9am. We were all instructed we were not to speak/feed/toilet etc the resident or face a disciplinary. Patient was still waiting late afternoon.
No idea how it reached eviction day.

Hope it’s resolved in a much kinder way.

ShrinkingViolet9 · 11/08/2021 12:25

@IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves

The family need to tell them to sell the home. Does the person think the home is bluffing? The family needs to make the person understand that this will happen. They need to sell the house.
The OP has already stated:

"no family"

Why do some posters not read the OP's responses before commenting?

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54321nought · 11/08/2021 12:26

@Bargebill19

Have worked in a bupa home a long time ago. On the day of eviction the resident was placed in a wheelchair and left in the reception area for an ambulance to collect. This was at 9am. We were all instructed we were not to speak/feed/toilet etc the resident or face a disciplinary. Patient was still waiting late afternoon. No idea how it reached eviction day.

Hope it’s resolved in a much kinder way.

wow!
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ilovebagpuss · 11/08/2021 12:42

@godmum56 yes I just meant ideally you would have this set up prior to discharge but of course not aimed at OP

ExConstance · 11/08/2021 12:47

RE Power of Attorney. If he has mental capacity it is for him to decide if he wishes to have an attorney manage his affairs, not op or anyone else. If he has lost capacity to make these decisions there would need to be an application to the Court of Protection. We all have the right to make unwise decisions if we have capacity, difficult as this may make life for those around us.

knittingaddict · 11/08/2021 12:56

@Jellycatspyjamas

There must have been some agreement about fees when he was discharged from hospital - they couldn’t simply put him in a home without an agreement about how the fees would be paid, the hospital can’t make the decision to put him in a home and have him cover the fees without his written agreement. If they placed him there without that agreement in place the fees would be the responsibility of health and social care.
Exactly what I've been thinking while reading this thread. I don't understand why his care isn't being funded by the NHS/council/social services or whoever else usually pays in circumstances like this.
Boredmotherofone · 11/08/2021 13:14

I'm only as far down the thread as 9am so apologies if this has already been asked, but have you asked him about doing Equity Release? If he has no family then at least he doesn't need to worry about losing his kid's inheritance.

Boredmotherofone · 11/08/2021 13:20

@YanTanTethera123 Holy cr*p! As awful as this sounds, I would've refused to take her in (when she turned up at 2am) In fact I wouldn't have opened the door at 2am unless it's the police.

They could've had Dementia and/or been violent!

Iwantcauliflowercheese · 11/08/2021 13:22

Nothing to do with the eviction, but wouldn't he be better off putting the house up for auction, as damaged houses sell well by auction and using the equity to get a one storey home?

longtompot · 11/08/2021 13:32

I take it the hospital decided where he was going to go to when he was discharged? It wasn't a place he chose, knowing it was going to cost x amount? It's just when my fil was discharged from hospital last year following a fall, he was sent to a home, quite far from where he lived, for rehabilitation. He wasn't charged for it. In the end he wasn't there that long, ended up going to another hospital before getting discharged back to his home far too early, but that's another story.

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