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Giving up milk.....how did you do it?

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titsintiers · 15/07/2021 07:47

I have always drank lots of milk in lots of mugs of tea and coffee throughout the day. I know it's not good for me but lockdown has lead to an increase in quantity.

For those of you who've given up, how did you manage? Do you drink substitutes? I like almond milk, but not as much and it's not great for the environment.

I like peppermint tea but all the fruit one's taste the same. Any recommendations for alternatives?

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toastantea · 15/07/2021 12:05

I’m angry that the supermarkets keep the price of cows milk absurdly low. Making the farmers poorer, and presumably meaning short cuts and poorer standards ensue.

Well saying people don't ditch it because it's cheap as fuck absolutely missed the mark of what you actually meant.

Schrutesbeets · 15/07/2021 12:10

People don't know why cows milk is bad?
LOL. How bizarre, I thought it was universally accepted, even amongst those that consume it, that meat and dairy are bad for us.
Tesco do a really good oat milk, it's own brand so only £1, in the fridge section, it's pink and great in brews.

DappledThings · 15/07/2021 12:13

How bizarre, I thought it was universally accepted, even amongst those that consume it, that meat and dairy are bad for us.
Nope, never heard anyone so black and white about it. Anything is bad for you in excess but I don't think there's any great consensus that these things are intrinsically bad for you.

1940s · 15/07/2021 12:18

If you want to give up milk watch how the dairy industry operates.

Watch the cows getting artificially impregnated, watch them grieve as their newborn calves are removed. Watch the calves if male be killed (sometimes immediately infront of the Cow with either a gun or a hammer to their head)

It's the most barbaric practice and truly heartbreaking to watch the cows try and protect and remain with their calves.

Itsprobablynotcominghome · 15/07/2021 12:19

@toastantea

I’m angry that the supermarkets keep the price of cows milk absurdly low. Making the farmers poorer, and presumably meaning short cuts and poorer standards ensue.

Well saying people don't ditch it because it's cheap as fuck absolutely missed the mark of what you actually meant.

Why?

It’s way more expensive to buy non-cows milk than cows milk.

I am sure some people would give up cows milk if it was priced appropriately.

Not sure what part you don’t understand.

4 pints of Milk from Sainsbury’s: £1.09 (2.27L)
1L of Alpro is £1.25 (at best), but normally £1.60-1.80.

So even if you get it for £1.25:

Cows milk: 48p/L
Oat milk: 125p/L

When something costs 2.6x less, I consider that other thing cheap as fuck.

Schrutesbeets · 15/07/2021 12:22

@1940s

If you want to give up milk watch how the dairy industry operates.

Watch the cows getting artificially impregnated, watch them grieve as their newborn calves are removed. Watch the calves if male be killed (sometimes immediately infront of the Cow with either a gun or a hammer to their head)

It's the most barbaric practice and truly heartbreaking to watch the cows try and protect and remain with their calves.

Absolutely! Always been surprised at vegetarians talking about not eating meat whilst chowing down on dairy (IT'S THE SAME INDUSTRY!)!
1940s · 15/07/2021 12:24

@Schrutesbeets the dairy industry feels so much worse to me. It's so barbaric and awful on the cows giving birth year after year and the trauma they go through having the calves removed.
I'd sooner eat wild caught venison than be 'vegetarian' and eat milk and cheese

(I'm vegan by the way strictly!)

EvenRosesHaveThorns · 15/07/2021 12:35

There's loads of plant milks out there, depends on your budget but oatly barrista at the higher end is fabulous, oat milks are great. All these milks have the benefits of dairy milk added whilst being lower fat etc. Milk is after all produced by cows to fatten baby calves quickly...

toastantea · 15/07/2021 12:35

Why?

Well I didn't know what you meant

Libertynan · 15/07/2021 12:41

@1940s

If you want to give up milk watch how the dairy industry operates.

Watch the cows getting artificially impregnated, watch them grieve as their newborn calves are removed. Watch the calves if male be killed (sometimes immediately infront of the Cow with either a gun or a hammer to their head)

It's the most barbaric practice and truly heartbreaking to watch the cows try and protect and remain with their calves.

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Libertynan · 15/07/2021 12:43

I haven't drunk milk or used it in tea/coffee since I was 14 years old. No cereal either. I eat porridge made with water.

If someone makes me a cuppa and it has milk in it I will politely refuse to drink it.

I agree that it isn't good for you.

RampantIvy · 15/07/2021 12:43

I’m angry that the supermarkets keep the price of cows milk absurdly low. Making the farmers poorer, and presumably meaning short cuts and poorer standards ensue.

I live in a rural area, and I’m with you on this.

I thought it was universally accepted, even amongst those that consume it, that meat and dairy are bad for us

What, all meat and all dairy?
I don’t agree. They need to be consumed in moderation if they are consumed at all.

crackofdoom · 15/07/2021 12:46

My favourite plant milk is oat- which is also, as far as I can find out, the best choice for the environment ( less water intensive, and it’s a crop that grows in our climate). Hazel is delicious in hot chocolate.

I now find that dairy milk leaves a nasty, “claggy” aftertaste in my mouth.

If you’re worried about nutrients, choose a plant milk that comes fortified with calcium etc. Getting enough protein isn’t usually a problem in a Western diet.

User1110 · 15/07/2021 12:48

Oat milk!

The dark blue oatly in the fridge is lovely. Also the grey one on the shelf is ok too - some of them can be a bit watery but these two are by far the ‘milkiest’.

Alpro soya milk also, but takes a bit of getting used to. I use it on cereal mostly.

I have up milk 4 years ago for environmental reasons and have never missed it!

scottmichael · 15/07/2021 12:48

Hazelnut milk all the way

Kindleandacuppa · 15/07/2021 12:52

I stopped drinking milk one day when I realised I wasn't actually a baby cow.

Oat milk is amazing, I am obsessed with the chocolate one - it tastes like toasted marshmallows to me! I use that in cereal/porridge etc and use the batista style oat milk for coffee

Schrutesbeets · 15/07/2021 12:53

What, all meat and all dairy?
I don’t agree. They need to be consumed in moderation if they are consumed at all.

There's no way we can consume pain and suffering and think it won't cause us harm.

SageMist · 15/07/2021 12:58

I think it's really important that young women understand how important Calcium is to having healthy bones later in life.
My mother stopped drinking milk and vastly cut down on butter and cheese too, when I was a teenager. She didn't eat enough calcium-rich foods to compensate, because she didn't understand enough about nutrition. Now she has osteoporosis.

Schrutesbeets · 15/07/2021 13:00

@SageMist

I think it's really important that young women understand how important Calcium is to having healthy bones later in life. My mother stopped drinking milk and vastly cut down on butter and cheese too, when I was a teenager. She didn't eat enough calcium-rich foods to compensate, because she didn't understand enough about nutrition. Now she has osteoporosis.
Non dairy milk is fortified with calcium and vit D
Cutex507 · 15/07/2021 13:04

I don't need domino's or Coca-Cola but they still taste nice.

UntilYourNextHairBrainedScheme · 15/07/2021 13:06

I've stopped drinking milk in coffee - just cold turkey. It only takes a few days to get used to it. Most of my team at work have stopped too now as I kept handing them vlack coffee accidentally 3/4 of usare doing intermittent fasting. Everyone says its amazing how fast you come to prefer it.

Most of the substitues aren't anything like as calcium rich as milk and only actually contain a tiny amount of what they're sold as - almond milk is usually only two or three percent almonds. You'd do better to have black coffee and a few actual almonds as a snack!

Schrutesbeets · 15/07/2021 13:11

@UntilYourNextHairBrainedScheme

I've stopped drinking milk in coffee - just cold turkey. It only takes a few days to get used to it. Most of my team at work have stopped too now as I kept handing them vlack coffee accidentally 3/4 of usare doing intermittent fasting. Everyone says its amazing how fast you come to prefer it.

Most of the substitues aren't anything like as calcium rich as milk and only actually contain a tiny amount of what they're sold as - almond milk is usually only two or three percent almonds. You'd do better to have black coffee and a few actual almonds as a snack!

That's not true.
Giving up milk.....how did you do it?
UntilYourNextHairBrainedScheme · 15/07/2021 13:14

Environmentally most milk substitutes are somewhat better than dairy but the air miles for most vegan milk substitutes are huge, and often the environmental impact is worse in some ways than milk produced locally due to rainforest land clearance in South America etc. just the same as cheap beef.

Health wise milk substitutes are a processed food and often have surprising ingredients - obviously the flavoured ones are often full of sugar or sugar substitute but there are also often lots of preservatives and salt among other things.

I cut down on dairy and substitute with nothing, because the substitutes are highly processed and not really what they appear to be at first glance.

Schrutesbeets · 15/07/2021 13:17

Health wise milk substitutes are a processed food

This comes across as if you think cows milk isn't processed?

RampantIvy · 15/07/2021 13:21

@Schrutesbeets

Health wise milk substitutes are a processed food

This comes across as if you think cows milk isn't processed?

I would consider processing oats/rice/almonds/hazelnuts/soya beans more process intensive than milking cows then pasteurising the milk.
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