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Anyone else forgotten what hard work entertaining is?

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ConcernedAuntie · 04/07/2021 11:24

Was talking to a friend on Friday afternoon and said to her “come round and watch the football at ours, I’ll do some food”. I don’t like football but I thought it would be great for DH to watch it with other interested people.

Had a quick think about what to cook and DH said he would go and get everything on my list – great as I was out Friday evening. Bearing in mind it would only be 4 of us, the bill came to nearly £80!

Saturday morning, got up and made two desserts. Decided that as I had done the housework on Thursday morning I had better have a quick whizz round with the duster and cleaned the loos, sinks. DH hoovered through again. Decided to get the table set and discovered a stain on my only large tablecloth so that had to be washed, dried and ironed. As it is probably 2 years since I used it, it was probably put away by my late, much missed MIL whose eyesight wasn’t that good. Getting the ‘best’ plates and dishes out I thought they looked a bit dusty as also not used for 2 year so they needed washing, ditto the ‘best’ glasses.

Prepared all the ingredients for the made from scratch curry and went for a shower and washed my hair.

Had set everything up to eat outside and about 4.00 it looked like it might rain and the forecast didn’t look great so we moved everything into the conservatory.

Started to prepare the curry and under-estimated the time it would take to prepare prior to putting in the oven for an hour so had only just cleared the kitchen when friends arrived. Left the rice simmering and poured the drinks. Lovely. Went back into the kitchen and the rice had boiled over all over the hob so needed to clean that before it dried on too hard.

Served up the food, was really pleased with the curry as I had not made that one before, and we had a lovely evening so all worth it.

Is it just me or does it take anyone else a whole day to cater for one meal for four people?

OP posts:
Sexlife · 04/07/2021 18:48

Its hard because you and Dh arent working as a team

ConcernedAuntie · 04/07/2021 19:28

@Sexlife

Its hard because you and Dh arent working as a team
What makes you think that? I had already said that he went to get the shopping and hoovered through.

He also washed up behind me after I made the desserts and other prep. He got extra garden seating out of the loft and had to wash down the stuff that was already outside following a low pass by a seagull. Rearranged pots and tubs on the patio to hopefully ensure that no one tripped over them after a few glasses and swept said patio where stuff had been moved. Then, as I said it rained so stuff had to be moved inside.

After the curry he cleared the table and loaded the diswasher while I sorted out the desserts. Later on after our friends had left he emptied the diswasher, put stuff away and reloaded diswasher with the rest of the plates, glasses, mugs, etc.

OK he's no cook. Or at least he does cook stuff but you wouldn't want to serve it to guests when you are having a nice night.

I also said that we had a lovely night and it was all worth it.

OP posts:
ConcernedAuntie · 04/07/2021 19:37

@MareMare

Honestly, OP, your preparations sound very over-elaborate — are you an anxious entertainer? We’re only newly living in a house and renovations means we can’t really unpack, the kitchen is primitive, and the only loos are upstairs, but we had eight people for brunch in the jungly garden today. Last-minute invitation last night as visiting friends got in touch, and we only used food we already had in the house (eggs, potatoes, avocados, tomatoes, coffee) as we’re trying to burn through store cupboard staples and things from the freezer before we have to move out temporarily again while rewiring is done. Guests brought pastries, juice, fresh bread and the makings of mimosas. We ate outside from the cups and plates we usually use, and put up the parasol when it drizzled briefly. DH did the cooking. DS cleaned the loo.
Yes, I am a nervous entertainer. With family I don't worry so much but with friends I like it to look like I have made an effort and for everything to be nice. This particular friend is an excellent cook and we have had some wonderful meals at their house over the years. I'm sure she was not bothered at all but I was.

The problem with guests bringing food is that DH is coeliac and I don't want to have to keep telling him he can't eat particular things as he hates drawing attention to it. When I have made or bought it myself he knows he can just eat everything and not worry.

My biggest mistake was the late invitation and being out on Friday evening.

OP posts:
LemonRoses · 04/07/2021 19:45

Gosh yes, I think we’ve all got a little out of practice. That said, despite it being nearly two days work, I like pottering around making bread, polishing cutlery and making puddings.

I think you can do a simple supper or something far more complicated and either is fine, but I like being able to ‘do it properly’ again. It’s lovely seeing white tablecloths, flickering candles in storm lanterns and sparkling glasses.

dementedma · 04/07/2021 20:01

I absolutely hate hosting, I really do. I mean, I take my turn and do my best to ensure guests have a lovely time but I bloody hate it. We have friends who are the opposite; adore having guests, always putting on suppers or dinners or lunches. I just find it so bloody stressful

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 04/07/2021 20:15

I've just read through the thread starting post and I still don't understand.

is this why someone people are always "busy"?
why bother with a tablecloth? they are coming to watch the footie, not atte4a formal dinner.
why bother making 2 desserts? surely one is enough plus icecream or just buy it.
why take everything outside way in advance only to have to bring it back again? this seems like washing your feet with your socks on.
why cook a curry from scratch and spend £80??? a takeaway would've been much cheaper and zero trouble.
and why is cleaning 4 plates even an issue?

it sounds like a lot of unnecessary effort

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 04/07/2021 20:16

I mean I've just read through it again..

FrownedUpon · 04/07/2021 20:36

I agree. It is about personal standards though. I would always make a meal from scratch & a choice of desserts. I’d never put an oven pizza & shop bought dessert out for friends.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/07/2021 20:40

@FrownedUpon

I agree. It is about personal standards though. I would always make a meal from scratch & a choice of desserts. I’d never put an oven pizza & shop bought dessert out for friends.
Why not? What's wrong with it? Especially if you say in advance that's what the invitation is.
Graphista · 04/07/2021 20:44

I think you need to lower your standards!

I come from a big family and there are regular but not especially frequent get togethers, on mums side alone there's over 30 of us! Although admittedly not everyone makes it every time, there's usually 20+ at least

At this point it's just accepted

A will bring dessert (usually some frozen Sara Lee or Costco job that just needs defrosting)

B will do salads

C will do dips

D will bring soft drinks, each of mum and her siblings are classed as 1 "family within the family" so each family brings own alcohol

The person hosting will do basically vats of something like chilli or curry or stew or whatever, there's always a veggie version too which covers we veggies, but also covers those watching their weight or cholesterol or whatever, and they'll make some kind of suitably accompanying carbs available - rice & popadoms with curry, rice & wraps/taco shells with chilli, nice crusty rolls with casserole - you get the idea. But main thing is a dish that can be prepped and even cooked the day before and just reheated on the day.

Paper plates and cups (where needed, most drinks come in cans or bottles), plenty of kitchen roll as paper napkins

Bags for rubbish scattered about to use

Defo wipe clean tablecloths!

Job done! Everyone has a good time, not too stressful for host...

For 4 people "come over and watch the footy" I'd keep it simpler still! Ready made snacks or at most Iceland/Costco party food that's just freezer to oven, crisps, chips & dips, drinks - sorted!

However, I remember as a newlywed getting myself in a pickle about a couple then dh had invited over for Sunday lunch WTHOUT checking with me first! It did not go well. I was only just getting to grips with doing a roast anyway, hadn't yet got to grips with timings and really wasn't confident cooking meat! Parts were over cooked, parts were cold, parts plain got binned! (Yorkies did not work out well at all I make great ones now). Dh got an earful after they left! I was so embarrassed. I came to know the lady of the couple really well and she gave me lots of tips on hosting, she was older and more experienced.

but friend's DH can't eat beef.

You seem quite rigid in your approach to food. You could have used turkey or veggie mince or made something else easy altogether, for a big pot type dinner a stew.

This particular friend is an excellent cook

Whenever celeb chefs are asked if they're fussed about what people cook for them when they're invited over they say they just appreciate not having to cook and are perfectly happy with something simple. One (I forget who) said they're favourite "off duty" meal was beans on toast! Because he hardly ever got to eat simple food

BrownEyedGirl80 · 04/07/2021 20:46

I would have bought crisps,nuts and alchohol and ordered pizzas

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 04/07/2021 20:51

@BrownEyedGirl80

I would have bought crisps,nuts and alchohol and ordered pizzas
same

it's a date @BrownEyedGirl80
😁

Bin85 · 04/07/2021 20:58

Try cooking rice in microwave- no mess
Lakeland sell a rice cooker.

Graphista · 04/07/2021 21:01

The problem with guests bringing food is that DH is coeliac and I don't want to have to keep telling him he can't eat particular things as he hates drawing attention to it

Well he's an adult with agency so it's up to him to manage his condition isn't it?

ConcernedAuntie · 04/07/2021 21:03

@ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba

I've just read through the thread starting post and I still don't understand.

is this why someone people are always "busy"?
why bother with a tablecloth? they are coming to watch the footie, not atte4a formal dinner.
why bother making 2 desserts? surely one is enough plus icecream or just buy it.
why take everything outside way in advance only to have to bring it back again? this seems like washing your feet with your socks on.
why cook a curry from scratch and spend £80??? a takeaway would've been much cheaper and zero trouble.
and why is cleaning 4 plates even an issue?

it sounds like a lot of unnecessary effort

I use a tablecloth because the table is glass topped. I could use just table mats but like some padding should cutlery get dropped. It wasn't a formal dinner it was a curry. We were eating before the match. We prefer to eat at the table. I also wanted to avoid curry being accidentally dropped on the suite which was cleaned this week.

I made two desserts because I like people to have a choice. My friend is a dessertaholic.Buying nice desserts is not easy when DH is coeliac.

We took everything outside because I was trying to get ahead but then the weather changed.

It was a new recipe I wanted to try. The bill at the supermarket included the curry ingredients, dessert ingredients, beer and two different bottles of wine, again so people had a choice, and some cheese and crackers for half time.

As I said in a previous post, we have had takeaways when these friends have been round before and as we hadn't seen them for a while I wanted it to be a nice evening with, hopefully, nice food.I

It wasn't just four plates. It was four plates, four dessert bowls, four plates for the cheese and biscuits and a plate to put the cheese on. Four wine glasses, glasses for beer and glasses for water. If we had put them in the dishwasher they probably wouldn't have been out in time and who wants a warm wine glass.

Is that clearer? I wanted a nice evening after the crappy last year but that doesn't mean it wasn't hard work.

OP posts:
goingtotown · 04/07/2021 21:04

4 friends to watch the football last night, Fish & Chips & a choice of a Magnum or Sainsbury’s Trifle.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 04/07/2021 21:14

I would have just ordered a takeaway from the local Indian, or cooked something familiar in the slow cooker, like a chilli (a veggie one if someone can't eat beef). Got DP to nip to tesco for the drinks and a nice pre made desert, just the one.

We don't have best china or glasses, and we have a dishwasher so if they hadn't been used for two years then I would stick them in there. Wouldn't bother with a table cloth.

If I'd cleaned on Thursday then I wouldn't bother dusting and hoovering again, just have a very quick tidy up and make sure the bathroom and kitchen are clean.

museumum · 04/07/2021 21:16

I totally understand wanting to make the effort you did OP. But please do understand it was a choice. Your choice. Your friends would have (if nice people) been happy with a fraction of the effort.
Own your decision to go to that level of effort.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 04/07/2021 21:18

I'm sure your friends would have been happy enough with your company and some food and drink OP. I'm happy when someone invites me over for food as long as there's food and drink (I always bring something to drink with me anyway) and the bathroom is clean Grin.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 04/07/2021 21:23

@ConcernedAuntie

thanks, it's clearer

I think the title is misleading - the entertaining itself isn't hard, it's that you weren't prepared to be spontaneous because you have gotten out of practice.

because usually you would've had a clean table cloth, clean crockery & glasses, remembering timings and just basically more on top.
but you have forgotten, so it was overwhelming for you.

is that what you meant?

Cupoftea53 · 04/07/2021 21:25

I agree - you put the pressure on yourself. If you enjoy doing it then fine, but if you find it stressful then don’t. We have Coeliacs in our family which makes pudding easier, it’s always fruit and ice cream!

BirdsandBeesmakinghay · 04/07/2021 21:39

I think it depends on how close the friends are perhaps. Close long standing friends could come round for an informal pizza in front of the TV. Acquaintances might prompt a more formal meal. Also if you have a beautiful house with a lovely dining room and nice crockery and glasses, you would want to use them.

OldBoilerOhYes · 04/07/2021 21:54

The thought of it does seem strangely exhausting. We used to have people to stay for the weekend often, and if no guests would be out doing stuff both days for most weekends. When lockdown began we found we actually enjoyed just pottering around the house all weekend. We get weekend treats in and special breakfast food and it feels nice and relaxed. In theory I'm looking forward to socialising but in fact I'm thinking 'I have to get dressed for company now, and lay the table, and talk to people?'

catwithflowers · 04/07/2021 23:09

The only thing I'm confused about here is how many people think a home made curry is an expensive dish! I made a couple of curries yesterday as family came over and yes, I have all the dried spices in the cupboard but it honestly must have cost less than a tenner for the whole dinner. And that served 6 with leftovers and included stuff like dips, popadoms and breads 🤷‍♀️

OP, I get you, sometimes you want to make everything perfect and it all gets a bit stressy 🙂. I'm sure your guests had a lovely time and appreciated all the effort you went to

coodawoodashooda · 04/07/2021 23:41

What's your recipe?

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