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Broken bond between William and Harry

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chai1853 · 02/07/2021 16:31

One of the hardest truths to admit is something negative about yourself. But, if you can admit it, and apologize you can work towards healing. Then, if the injured one accepts apology you have a reestablished bond.

I'm speaking as a mum who has 34 years of 1 successful marriage.I fully believe that Diana raised William and Harry to always have each other's backs. William will one day be King. He will need his brother to talk to. Harry needs to be the one that William can always count on, through thick and thin.

When Princess Diana passed,Charles was quoted as saying" They are going to blame me". One way towards healing is acting forgiving for what happened inthe past. Being a positive role model for healing the brothers bond is showing a positive emotion towards Diana. Being present when they did something together to remember their mothers legacy (Diana statue) is one way. Another way is to be actively in their lives by communication. Keeping the lines of communication open by text, phone calls, zoom meetings etc. Not to mention, visiting in person!

People are human, and we all make mistakes. But at the end of the day, nothing is as important as family. Harry and Meghan have some apologizing to do. And William and Charles need to be accepting. It will not be easy, because admitting mistakes never is. To have a family in tact is the real key to happiness.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 02/07/2021 17:21

Gosh, thanks.

StillCalmX · 02/07/2021 17:23

I think it is a lot more complicated than just talking.

Even if they talk, the things harry and meghan said are out there and h&m will never lose face by retracting them.
William and charles may forgive but how can they trust harry?

Sometimes relationships are complicated and you are better off realising "i cant fix this right now".

My parents hold their marriage up to me as a great example to me a single parent, but my mum is so defensive, thin skinned and controlling and my dad enables her to see herself through a very rosy lens. They think they are a beacon for me to aspire to but i see two very flawed people who enableeach others delusions

thecognoscenti · 02/07/2021 17:24

I really don't understand why some people feel the need to click on a thread, the title of which makes it fairly clear what it's going to be about, only to announce that they have NO INTEREST in the topic and that the OP must be SUCH A SADDO to be writing about it. Just ignore it and go about your day FFS.

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Juststopasking · 02/07/2021 17:25

Harry needs to be the one that William can always count on, through thick and thin.

Or maybe William should have been the one that Harry could have turned to and relied upon for support when his wife was suicidal. Why would the younger brother have to always feel obliged to support the elder?

DogsSausages · 02/07/2021 17:27

Maybe William can count on his wife and children for any support he may need.

Sparklingbrook · 02/07/2021 17:27

What the what now? Confused

PanamaPattie · 02/07/2021 17:30

You have no idea. I suspect (I don't know because I'm not part of the royal family inner circle) that if William wants to talk to someone - it will probably be Catherine - his wife. You should know this because you have had 1 successful marriage of 34 years I believe.

OrrisRoot · 02/07/2021 17:30

@StillCalmX

I think it is a lot more complicated than just talking.

Even if they talk, the things harry and meghan said are out there and h&m will never lose face by retracting them.
William and charles may forgive but how can they trust harry?

Sometimes relationships are complicated and you are better off realising "i cant fix this right now".

My parents hold their marriage up to me as a great example to me a single parent, but my mum is so defensive, thin skinned and controlling and my dad enables her to see herself through a very rosy lens. They think they are a beacon for me to aspire to but i see two very flawed people who enableeach others delusions

Are you my sister?
NeverDropYourMoonCup · 02/07/2021 17:31

But at the end of the day, nothing is as important as family

Oh, nob off is it.

headlock · 02/07/2021 17:32

@Nesbo quite. I've never understood the people who have such an interest in the ins and outs of the royal family.
My MIL talks about their dramas like she's a close personal friend of theirs.

Crankley · 02/07/2021 17:32

If a sibling of mine had talked about our family so negatively and publicly as Harry has, the last thing I would want would be for them to be in my life. Any apology would be too little, too late and my inclination would be to tell them to fuck off and not come back.

Polkadots2021 · 02/07/2021 17:35

As positively meant as your post was, OP, their lives are not The Truman Show. It's none of our business.

Minezatea · 02/07/2021 17:35

But at the end of the day, nothing is as important as family.

I hope not or I'm fucked.

I'm not sure discussing confidential family matters on an internationally broadcast TV show, and speaking for others is really 'having William's back'. An apology would not make it safe to share any information with him ever again as once you've got form for that sort of behaviour there can be no confidence that you won't do it again. I wish them luck but I don't think Charles going to Diana's statue is really the issue here. Sadly I think Harry's trauma has meant that he has a very poor theory of mind - i.e. ability to see things from other's perspectives. This may be part of the reason why he was attracted to Megan.

StillCalmX · 02/07/2021 17:38

Yes the most realistic way that this can ever settle is when william has accepted this and felt betrayed and disappointed for long enough to feel detachment from the pain of the betrayal and didappointment. In a few years he just wont care that much so talking about football and the weather will be easy.

Ironically i think harry felt better for a whilevafter his big overshare to oprah. Now it seems he is ready to make up!

He will be waiting 5 years id say. He can look forward to conversationns like "it's cold for this time of yr"

badacorn · 02/07/2021 17:39

You wrote that post about people you don’t know at all.
The royal family are not a soap opera even though the tabloids treat them like one.

newnortherner111 · 02/07/2021 17:43

It is sad that they appear to have fallen out, but should we just let them have whatever conversations (or not) in private and not speculate? And let their mother rest in peace, no more speculative documentaries etc?

Maggiesfarm · 02/07/2021 17:45

It's not only Meghan and Harry who need to apologise.They have actually said very little but they have expressed how difficult and unhappy the situation here was, with little help available. If that had not been the case they would still be here.

Harry and William's bond isn't broken for goodness sake, it never will be. Obviously it is somewhat stretched at the moment.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 02/07/2021 17:46

no more speculative documentaries etc?

That’ll be ch5 crying into their cornflakes then 😉

grapewine · 02/07/2021 17:54

They're their own people - and from appearances - quite different. Family isn't always the most important thing.

TotorosCatBus · 02/07/2021 17:58

I think that Meghan is due an apology considering that she was offered as a sacrifice for in exchange for Andrew.

The problem is if the RF were to apologize, the Sussexes may broadcast this via their friends rather than consider accepting and reconciling quietly.

SingingInTheShithouse · 02/07/2021 18:05

Oh dear Confused

Family are not everything. Some can be extremely toxic & very bad for your sanity

& William looked like a miserable fecker making no real effort TBH, whilst harry did seem to try, so I'm not sure what you watched Confused

TheVampiresWife · 02/07/2021 18:10

Some families are shit and you're better off out of them. That's just a general observation, not one about the RF, because I know fuck all about them. And neither do you, OP.

UnsolicitedDickPic · 02/07/2021 18:12

Someone's hit the sauce early.

Longestfewdaysupcoming · 02/07/2021 18:15

That’s nice dear.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 02/07/2021 18:19

@HollowTalk

I think "They're going to blame me" was about the press, not about his children. He would never speak publicly about them like that.

But really, OP, you need a hobby. This level of interest in the royal family isn't really healthy.

I like the irony of how the OP has been told that she doesn't know these people, but then posters can also diagnose what's going on in OP's life, a person they don't know