Find iPhone turned off?

[SoStrange]

Hi
Can anyone tell me how to tell if DC has turned off find iPhone?

When it doesn’t update due to poor signal then usually I just see the latest recorded time and location. I think it shows in red text.

However, a couple of times recently the phone has been showing ‘online’ yet the map just shows as completely blank.

DC says that they haven’t turned it off but this has coincided with supposedly staying at a friends house…

Any tech advice please?

(Btw whilst it might be interesting to discuss the ethics/wider debate of tracking children, I really just want an answer to my question, please !)

Put life360 on instead. If it gets turned off then it's obvious.

Thanks gamerchick. I’m concerned about my relationship with DC and worry it would rock the boat if I insisted on a new app due to the fact they are nearly 17.

I also want to work out if they’ve definitely been lying.

I also have an older DC who has just left home and for my peace of mind tolerates the find iPhone being on our family phone account but I think it’d be a bit intrusive to ask her to download a new app as she’s an adult.

I have the same issue with find my device on my son's android phone. It never seems to work when he's out. He's 14 and if I installed a tracker app he'd just uninstall it.
Sorry op I don't have any suggestions.

Dr, funny how it only ever fails when she’s out with friends. Usually late at night.

To turn it off the email address linked to the iCloud account would be notified re it - so it’s not being turned off.

Probably flight mode, which wouldn’t help with any ap.

Really at 17 though you need to loosen th3 strings - it’s OTT

Summer there are extenuating safeguarding circumstances but thanks for your concern.

My DH sometimes has a problem finding my iPhone from his. It’s caused some interesting conversations but I haven’t been turning it off. I think find iPhone isn’t actually that good.

Dd is too young to care or to think about turning off or even know how and this sometimes happens to us too. I don't use it anymore as it's been pretty useless when she's out either this happening or as you say showing an old time and location. I just get her to share her location on what's app instead but obviously that relies on someone being willing, and there's every chance he is turning it off if there is a pattern even though this can happen without that being done. Perhaps a bit intrusive for a 17 year old tho. Just because you use a different app for him though doesn't mean you need to do that with dd - you could leave her on find my iPhone if that is enough to give you the peace of mind you need. Not sure what you can actually do if he refuses at this age though!

Op, do you have find iPhone on your adult child’s phone too - the one who has left home?
That is very extreme and intrusive.
Sorry if I’ve misunderstood that.

I'm fairly sure it actually says "find my iPhone turned off" if it is

Actually the email issue is cited ‘proof’ that they’re not deactivating it. Says we’d know if they were as we’d get an email. However, they have admitted to older sibling that they do turn it off. I think they have a way of deactivating it without triggering an email

Fair enough - it does sound like she’s putting it on flight mode - not sure any app would by pass her doing that

They could be turning off location services.

Pacify, older DC has a phone linked to our account and she chooses to keep it on. I worry about her driving at night on windy rural roads for work so find it reassuring to know she’s home safely. Her decision to keep it on. I wouldn’t ask her to get an App unless she wanted it.

Perhaps she turns the phone off?

I highly doubt there is a way to bypass it without notification as if there was apple would be in trouble!!

Her admitting it would be true it she was putting it on flight mode, if it is turned off - for example it doesn’t appear on devices anymore so it wouldn’t show as online but no location

It says ‘online’ so not flight mode or off

The map is just blank though …

They're just turning off location settings on the phone. To give the benefit of the doubt, doing that does actually save battery which is the reason my dd gives her dad when she doesn't want him to see where she is

@BaseDrops - you’ve got it, I reckon. Just experimented with DH’s phone and turned off location services. The screen looks exactly the same as dds…

I wonder if she feels that she’s not lying when she says that find iPhone is not turned off because technically she’s telling the truth!

X post but copper she feigns ignorance about why we can’t ‘see’ her …

Btw if the battery issue is relevant here does the phone take off location to conserve itself or does it need to be actually done manually?

@SoStrange

X post but copper she feigns ignorance about why we can’t ‘see’ her …

Btw if the battery issue is relevant here does the phone take off location to conserve itself or does it need to be actually done manually?

No it does have to be done manually.

Okay so she's pulling a fast one, but as you say, she's not technically lying as she's turned off location settings, not find my friend specifically teenagers love a technicality

@cocoloco987 if it’s intrusive to want to know where my still 16yo DD is OVERNIGHT then I’ll gladly take that ‘criticism’

@copperpotsalot that’s so true about the technicalities, lol!

You can turn off location services but leave Find My.. switched on. So it will show that the device is connected but won't show the location. Sounds like this is probably what's happening.

OP, we use live360, that tells you things like when DD battery is low, not sure if it would tell you that they've switched location services off. I'll have a play with it later for you if you want.