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Original poster

To be utterly fucked off with this doctor

60 replies

Ramenallday · 26/04/2021 06:50

NHS.

Doctor informs me they will be taking 3 weeks annual leave (fine no problem) - encouraging everyone to take annual leave for wellbeing after the last year.

Then mentions they are flying to India to see family. I made it quite clear it was against regulations to leave the country unless they had an exemption and shows a distinct lack of judgement. Two days later they’ve changed their mind, they now need to go not for a holiday but to sign legal papers Hmm

Flew out THREE days before India was red listed and it was already clear there is a huge crisis.

Has now contacted me to ask for a letter explaining why they shouldn’t have to quarantine in a hotel and how desperately they are needed back at work so they can quarantine at home.

Inclined to say no, fuck off you made your bed you lie in it. Am being over ruled and told to write the letter Angry. Why should they not have to pay to quarantine?!! They made a choice, anyone could see what was going to happen. I have hundreds of staff who desperately want to see their family but haven’t.

AIBU to not write the letter?!

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beginningoftheend · 26/04/2021 06:56

You could escalate if you are concerned?

Is it your signature on the letter? Ultimately I would type out a letter for someone else to sign, even if I disagree with the content, so long as it was legal and not an issue that woudl put my job at risk (I have refused to do some work in the past that was contrary to my organisation's own policies). It sounds like this is legal?

Youdontknowwhatyoureonabout · 26/04/2021 06:58

YANBU
That isn’t a dr I would want to see if they haven’t quarantined.

Milkywaystars · 26/04/2021 06:58

Don't write the letter, this is the reason why the virus has spread across the world. People think that their situation exempts them from following the rules & they're unique.

Oneeyeopen · 26/04/2021 06:59

Well the rules are there to protect the public.
I wouldn't want to be treated by a doctor returning from a red list country who hadn't quarantined properly.
If this doctor is so entitled then will he stay at home? I doubt it.
Not sure what you can do. Perhaps the person over ruling you should take responsibility and write the letter.

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Ramenallday · 26/04/2021 07:00

The absolute most I will agree to is writing a factual letter stating they are a doctor employed at x.

Doctor is not listed on the list of exemptions for not having to go to a quarantine hotel so it won’t do any good laying it on thick for the border people

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Milkywaystars · 26/04/2021 07:00

Anonymous tip off to the medical authorising body, they must know that this is happening a lot.

DartmoorDoughnut · 26/04/2021 07:02

Do you trust them to actually quarantine if they’re allowed to do so at home? Based on their choices so far I’m inclined to think they won’t do it properly so I wouldn’t sign anything.

YellowScallion · 26/04/2021 07:03

Some of the exemptions for health care workers have never made sense considering that at one stage hospitals seemed to be the place that a lot of people were catching it. I know people who chose to go away to France last year after the rules came in for quarantine after visiting as they knew they wouldn't have to isolate on return as they worked in a hospital

JSL52 · 26/04/2021 07:04

I wouldn't write the letter, how dare they ask you.
I would take it to the top, also whoever is overruling you is in the wrong.

Iheartbed · 26/04/2021 07:13

Don’t write the letter
The situation in India is absolutely dire
They must quarantine on their return
Don’t be part of the problem OP

It’s THEY’RE fault. And it’s tough to them, but people around the world are dying. They made their bed etc

DinosaurDiana · 26/04/2021 07:16

Absolutely don’t write the letter. It’s absolutely disgusting what people get away with.

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Ramenallday · 26/04/2021 07:17

Person over ruling me is more bothered about their own on call rota than anything else. I’ve told them to sign the fucking letter if they’re so inclined - I’m not signing a letter saying we desperately need them back asap

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Ramenallday · 26/04/2021 07:17

Who flies to a country with a massive outbreak 3 days before they are red listed ffs. A small child could have predicted this would happen Angry

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EnjoyingTheSilence · 26/04/2021 07:21

I wouldn’t write the letter. It’s a lie.

Do you really think they will quarantine at home, they’re not exactly making right choices at the moment. They’ve already proved they’re different and the rules don’t apply to them.

arethereanyleftatall · 26/04/2021 07:27

Yanbu op.

Can you write a very clearly worded reply along the lines of 'are you asking me to lie?'

At the moment, they're trying to make you out to be the bad guy if you don't. When In fact, you're anything but.

Whatpaint · 26/04/2021 07:41

Stick to your guns and tell the other person to sign the letter if they want to but you won’t. Difficult for you but at least your conscience will be clear.

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Ramenallday · 26/04/2021 07:43

Have just re checked guidelines. No exemptions for doctors anyway, so they will have to quarantine in a hotel like it or not!!

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JackieWeaverFever · 26/04/2021 07:46

@Ramenallday

The absolute most I will agree to is writing a factual letter stating they are a doctor employed at x.

Doctor is not listed on the list of exemptions for not having to go to a quarantine hotel so it won’t do any good laying it on thick for the border people

I would not even do this to be honest.

Let them quarantine in a hotel for $$$$ like everyone else.

SunIsComing · 26/04/2021 07:54

What a tosser. Make him stay in a hotel.

Foresttheout · 26/04/2021 08:00

As someone who lives in a red list country and hasn't seen my family for almost 2 years don't sign the letter. Many many people are putting up with the travel restrictions accepting it is a consequence of choosing to live abroad. As a doctor I would expect them to have more common sense and respect of the rules

custardbear · 26/04/2021 08:01

I makes me so pissed off that people try to bend the rules, even though they're putting the country at risk - it's exponential to wealth and ego about their own 'worth' ... read entitlement
I'd refuse to sign my name to anything when you may end up being the person fined if it goes south 'oh xyz wrote me a letter so I thought it was allowed' ... next person to get a bullet is you - don't do it

HEforHelium · 26/04/2021 08:02

Please don’t write, or sign, the letter.

YANBU.

PicsInRed · 26/04/2021 08:04

This doctor introducing more covid into a hospital (one of the biggest hothouses of covid in the UK's epidemic) would obviously increase patient burden, therefore this doctor returning immedistely to duty would achieve precisely the opposite of what they are suggesting.

PicsInRed · 26/04/2021 08:06

He's perfectly asking you to write a permission letter to start a bonfire in the bush during a severe drought and a fire ban.

PicsInRed · 26/04/2021 08:07

*he's effectively