Do you secretly judge people who announce their pronouns in their emails?

[Mewmin]

I was reading the thread on BBC pronouns earlier and it got me thinking about my own reaction when I come across people who I had previously respected and looked up to who have put their preferred pronouns in their email signature (all female with obviously female names like Annabelle and Rebecca).

Personally I believe it shows a lack of critical thinking and, working in the academic field, I am finding it very difficult not to alter my view of the (very) few colleagues and work contacts who have done this. In one case it has actually made me think twice about working more closely with someone.

Am I alone in this?

I should add that I am supportive of transpeople's rights but don't think that they should override women's rights and I cannot go along with the lack of logical thinking and tautological definitions used in gender ideology.

No I don't. I just assume it's work policy. I think pronoun declaration is weird since you never use your pronoun yourself but as a gender critical person I'd prefer everyone use something gender neutral anyway(though as a grammar purist 'they/them' does make me since a bit).

*wince

I don't understand why the email pronouns always cond in twos
She/her
He/him

Like isn't it a given that if its "she" then it'll be "her". Or are there different combinations?

I eye roll significantly if asked i claim I haven't decided yet

I've seen quite a few folk saying she/them or he/them.
From context I assume they are confused

I'm pretty sure you can't be forced to give out your pronouns so a workplace can request that people do it but it is optional. So people who do it have chosen to do it. And yes I judge.

I wonder if some people don't realise they could be negatively affecting their career/reputation by going along with this?

Yes. One at work puts' she/they ' and is lesbian. If you're 'she' then why aren't you also a 'her'. I can't stand it.

I think it makes at least some sense at a conference or meeting where you might conceivably refer to an attendee in the third person. It's ok then for the Annabelles and Stephens to still do the he/him etc, so that people with foreign names / androgynous looks / who define themselves differently don't have to single themselves out.

I don't like it on LinkedIn and emails. When we're talking to each other we don't need to use gendered language anyway, as 'you' is gender neutral, and all it does is draw further attention to the fact that I'm a woman in a field where most people automatically assume that men are more skilled.

I think it’s fucking ridiculous and I’m pretty sure research has shown that if it’s pointed out a woman is a woman, then men will respect her even less so it is detrimental to women to include

Hopefully some clever person can come and articulate better what I mean

I've seen it on linked in a lot, particularly from young women with obviously female names. Just don't get it!

I was on a webinar with a transwoman yesterday who if they hadnt had her/she next to their name would have been called that anyway was they were called a really obvious female name, had lovely red long hair in a very femine style and make up. You would have to be a bit of a knob to use he/him and it was in a very liberal environment where noone would have. But the spelling it out made me eyeroll internally.

Don’t get it either

Not on point but I paid for a course aimed at women in my industry - because women are underrepresented. Then one person announced they were non-binary and was constantly messaging out it and the course veered off being about women's issues and for women.... really annoyed me and I quietly stopped attending. Wish I'd asked for a refund haha 😄

I work somewhere very “woke” and they are obsessed with things like this. There is someone in our office who is transitioning from female to male but wishes to keep their (very female) name.
I have no problem with this but we have been told that if someone (including clients) refer to them by the wrong pronouns we must jump in and correct them

I was reading the website of a women’s cycling club yesterday. In the About Us section there was a bit where the committee had a pen pic. Every single one had pronouns in their bio. In a womens cycling club. WTF?

And yes, I did judge them.

Stonewall recently talked about someone who announced her pronouns as she/they.
I queried this and was told that means she is happy with both she and they 'style' pronouns.
So I'm not sure what she/her means.
all a pile of wank

Oh yes, LinkedIn are adding it to profiles as standard shortly

I'm on the cat's side

twitter.com/i/status/1384711659810402305

How will th ey do that? They don't know mine?

I have a foreign name, not a common name, no one even via email has confused me as a "him" but I am extremely confident that if they did and corrected them, they'd say "ok" and we'd all politely move on.

It’s complete bollocks isn’t it.

Yes, my eyes roll.

I like it. Encourages exclusivity and normalises asking people, not a popular MN opinion though

I judge. And I want to use pronouns like “whatever” and “none.”

Yes, they are pronouns.