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WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 07:13

My 15 y old dd is being seen by CAMHS because of self harm/overdose. Her therapist suggested she may be autistic, so we are going through the diagnostic process now. She certainly seems to show many signs of ASD. Her emotional regulation is poor and she flies into rages if she cannot control everything. This makes it difficult to say no to her. She threatens to kill herself or run away. She’s very controlling about mealtimes and won’t eat with us. She then says there isn’t any food, when she’s got loads of snacks in that she normally likes. She refuses to take a pack lunch to school but refuses to spend the money on her dinner card. She calls me mad, or delusional, tells me to go kill myself. She can bring me to tears but doesn’t react at all. She says she hopes we both die in a car crash - when I’m driving and knowing I’m a nervous driver. It can be constant abuse but then sometimes she’ll act like nothing has happened.
She’s at her dad’s this weekend. He lives an hour away so he can’t have her full time and take her to school, plus his house is dirty and he lives in chaos tbh. She idolises him and says he’s better than me, so I can’t stop her going, plus I’m desperate for some respite.
I’m at my wit’s end. I’ve taken so much time off work for her, ferrying her to these CAMHS appointments and yesterday the appointment was abandoned because she refused to engage at all.
I’ve a job interview for my dream job next week and I’m thinking I might have to pull out because of dd - can I really cope?
The very extreme behaviour seems linked to periods - so I was thinking of speaking to the GP. We now have private healthcare from April so I was thinking a proper clinical assessment for her too - but not sure where to begin.
CAMHS suggested some support from early help as well - but I think the private route might be more flexible and allow me to continue my career (as selfish as that sounds). Please help. I feel absolutely awful and it does feel like an abusive relationship.

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WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 07:35

Just bumping. I’ve posted elsewhere about this as well, but I feel like talking it through is really helping. I’m thinking of getting some anti depressants from the GP to help me to cope too.

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Gilead · 20/03/2021 07:36

pmdd symptoms might be worth checking this out.
As for dds other behaviours , it sounds like she has an emotional regulation disorder.
Have you tried not engaging with the behaviours, hard I know but if you won’t take them from a partner you don’t have to take them from a child. You walk away, or you just calmly say I’m not doing this now.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 07:39

She is having DBT for the emotional regulation, but she’s not engaging well.
Yes I tried going grey rock yesterday and that really helped. So ‘Shut up, you’re fat’ was just ignored and I walked away. She was deliberately half an hour late for me dropping her off at her dad’s, so I ignored that, but made her wait till I had tea first.
She uses car journeys to abuse me, because I’m trapped in a car with her - so I’ve noticed that makes it worse.

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MadamMaltesers · 20/03/2021 07:51

pmdd made me have a personality transplant 2 weeks of every month. Im on a high dose of vitamin d and iron atm and can really notice a difference. pls mention pmdd to her dr, ive had to live with it for years before i linked it all back to my periods.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 08:07

I will mention that to the GP and I’ll try the iron and vitamin D too. Hopefully we’ve hit rock bottom and the only way is up now. I really really hope so.

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WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 11:47

She’s not messaged today - it’s been lovely to have some peace and a nice cup of coffee in the quiet.

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Rainbowqueeen · 20/03/2021 11:50

Op I’m glad you’ve had a good day.
Handhold here hoping things improve soon

Yellowbowlbanana · 20/03/2021 11:51

That sounds really tough. I have no idea about the other stuff but for the last six months I have been taking a high dose of vitamin B complex and vitamin D and it seems to have made a big difference in relation to hormones. I was really suffering and I feel much calmer and less up and down now.

lborgia · 20/03/2021 12:38

Hold on to your career for dear life. If your stop now, you won't magically sort all your daughter's problems, and you will feel infinitely worse.

Believe me.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 12:47

The job is a bit further away so I won’t be quite as available, but maybe that’s a good thing. I do need my life back.

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Gilead · 20/03/2021 14:02

I have used headphones in the car.
I guarantee she doesn’t worship her father, she knows life would be harder and more chaotic which is why she’s still with you. But equally she knows it’s a stick to beat you with.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 14:38

Headphones are a great idea. I will do that.

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Redskyyy · 20/03/2021 14:41

I feel for you OP. I have to say, this sounds very much like me as a teen. The no food to eat and flying into a rage, self-harming and saying all sorts of awful things. It was definitely linked to hormones for me and as a now 31 year old I feel awful for what I put my parents through. I have no real advice but wanted to send support.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 14:54

@Redskyyy thank you for sharing because that gives me hope. All I want is to have a lovely relationship with my dd one day. I won’t hold any grudges for what she’s put me through, I will just be happy that she’s healthy and feeling better. I’m sure your parents feel the sad.

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BaggoMcoys · 20/03/2021 15:08

My hormones have always been a nightmare, but now it's usually just for one week a month and now I know to expect it and what it is, it sort of helps me to manage it. I've never found anything that helps but some women swear by evening primrose oil. It actually made my moods far worse, so watch out for that, but it has a lot of success stories too. Might be something that your dd could try. I'm sorry it's so tough. In my opinion you should take the job. Having something for yourself and some space from dd should help you stay sane.

BaggoMcoys · 20/03/2021 15:12

With food I'm wondering if you could get your dd involved in shopping/meal planning? If she is actively involved in it then it might help her to know exactly what's in and what to expect, and also teach her a bit about budgeting and meal planning too. Sorry if that's a bad idea or something you've already tried.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 16:16

That would be a good idea, but dd will either refuse to get involved with meal planning, or she’ll say she likes something and then reject it. It’s about control with her.

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WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 16:25

I’ll try the evening primrose oil.

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Redskyyy · 20/03/2021 16:54

@WhoisRebecca I’m glad it helped a bit. I hope it helps to know that from late onwards I’ve been very close to my mum. I gave her other stress such as going on wild nights out!!
One other thought and this random! is your dd having any stress at school? I struggled massively with bullying and took it out on ppl at home. I changed school at 16 and my life changed for the better.

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 17:18

She hates school. She can’t cope at all, so she works in a separate study room half the day.

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PotteringAlong · 20/03/2021 18:17

How does she behave for her dad?

WhoisRebecca · 20/03/2021 18:21

Apparently she’s absolutely fine for her dad, no issues whatsoever.

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lborgia · 20/03/2021 21:31

@WhoisRebecca

Apparently she’s absolutely fine for her dad, no issues whatsoever.
Cliche, but true, she’s relaxed enough to show her true self around you. Lucky you.
NiceTwin · 20/03/2021 21:48

This describes my dd to a T.
She was diagnosed with Aspergers at 13. Up until then I thought she was socially gauche due to being August born, immature with a hot temper.

She too won't engage with CAMHS even though they have tried different approaches with her. She absolutely infuriates me that she can't see they are trying to help, she says it's all a waste of time.

Like your dd, she hates school and will disappear into the toilets texting me that she is going to walk out. I just text that I'm busy but she knows the difference between right and wrong and that she should do the right thing. She hasn't walked out yet.

Whereas I used to bend over backwards and dance to her tune, I have stepped back bit and don't pander to her every want. She can be quite unreasonable.

I'm sure at some point I will have a lovely relationship with her, just as you will with your dd. I just have no idea how long that will take.
Her therapist has said she is pretty sure that when she goes to college she will find it easier as she will have autonomy, she isn't keen on being ordered about at school.

littlebillie · 20/03/2021 21:58

I would seriously consider talking her off social media or adding boundaries in surrounding that.

There is so much poison being pushed on them through this medium.

I have two Dc teens and boundaries and calm explanations help. We are over the 13/14/15 stage and it's calmed right down.