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Would your ex-bully a chance ?

87 replies

DeepThinkingGirl · 04/03/2021 23:42

Hi all,

If someone bullied you for a prolonged period of time while you were in a weak vulnerable place.. and came to ask for forgiveness after 3 and a half years of consistently treating you like trash..

They said they wanna talk about it and want to know what they can do to make it better.. and that they want to apologise properly..

Would you.. open the doors for such conversation ?

And what would you ask for in order to rebuild the trust and remove the hurt.

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SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 05/03/2021 18:00

Sarah Millican is bob on 😍

endlesswicker · 05/03/2021 18:01

Just say that you are nowhere near ready to forgive them for the despicable way they treated you.

Hoppinggreen · 05/03/2021 18:05

Nope
I was contacted by an ex bully on FB with an apology
I replied that I wasn’t her therapy and to leave me alone, then I blocked her. Even if she was genuinely sorry it wouldn’t change anything so there was no value in it for me.

Number3BigCupOfTea · 05/03/2021 18:08

Ha ha love the sarah millican video.

LynTurner must lack so much self awareness to have written to her! 🙈

Number3BigCupOfTea · 05/03/2021 18:09

@LarryWasAHappyChap

I've read that there are some schools now where onlookers to bullies are punished for not intervening. I'm not 100% sure I agree with it, but the idea behind it is solid- people should speak up if they witness bullying for sure.
That is a good idea.

I have been ostracised a few times. One person was behind it but nobody else set out to draw me back in.

RunningFromInsanity · 05/03/2021 18:12

No, you are not here to make other people feel better about themselves.

AIMD · 05/03/2021 18:15

I’d be happy to accept an apology but personally I wouldn’t be letting the person have contact for anymore than that.

I’d just ask that they behave well to others in future and make clear further conversation with me was not necessary or wanted.

I’d be highly suspicious if it was someone who had already apooogised and shown bad behaviour after that apology.

I’d prefer to keep boundaries. It’s not your job to make them feel better about themselves.

DeepThinkingGirl · 05/03/2021 20:30

Graphista

That video is fab!

“To be honest I won’t respond any further as I don’t remember you favourably”.

Honest and to the point.

It’s very true, the behaviour of complete denial hurts the most. And bullies think they can pull it off because they assume they still hold the power to the narrative. And they need to be reminded that their power isn’t acknowledged.

I have a habit of over justifying overly defending my no and coming across as I’m worried about being smeared or misunderstood. I’d love to change that about myself and see myself as an equal.

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DeepThinkingGirl · 06/03/2021 02:16

So the conflict I face that makes me struggle to turn off my compassion and try hold on to some grudges so that I remind myself to not fall prey again is the following.

I realized after being shocked that my bully doesn’t do what she does out of maliciousness.

She does what she does because she is a self loather and so lacks compassion. She has been bullied for things not in her hands and has somehow internalised it all and now bullies others as a self defense mechanism to dissociate herself from her real self .

She also, has a shit loads of internalised misogyny due to her upbringing and just naturally undermines other women’s judgements and opinions snd would like to see herself as different from every other woman and obsessively needs that validation as to silence her self loathing thoughts.

When she bullied me she was quite immature and exceptionally immature for her age and that’s due to being neglected. And so she lacked awareness of social boundaries and was quite self centred in pursuing her own ends even if it is at the cost of others simply becshse she doesn’t have the compassion to pay attention to where other peoples feelings might need to be worth her limiting how far she pushes for her own agenda.

It’s quite impulsive for her.

So combination resulted in her, self destructively needing to put others down socially while putting herself up.. and while in that self absorbed process anything that came in her way she would go all the length to get her way because she had genuinely not been taught right from wrong .. and then she would continue to do so without having any ability to tune in to other people that she is meant to care about and have the compassion that it takes to realise that going too far is quite damaging emotionally.

So all in all, it’s not very calculated. But it’s coming from deep routed insecurity and misogyny. And I know that she was trying to be different from her upbringing and she keeps dropping hints that she is now aware that she has seen things wrongly.

After reaching that understanding I went back to feeling compassion towards her. Honestly. I feel glad I had a better upbringing where I didn’t end up being a self loather and I wish her well on her recovery journey.

I know for sure she is on a self discovery journey trying to become a better person. She keeps dropping hints in our encounters.

I made her sound like a down right malicious person because I still have a lot of bottled up anger but it’s also mixed with a lot of feelings of compassion because I feel like it’s coming from an impulsive place where she clearly needs to dig deep and uproot from her system.

But that doesn’t change that I was collateral damage to that process and I feel like while I might be the first person in her life that offered her sisterhood compassion before she decided to exercise her powers on me, I feel like I’m hopeful she will find others who will be compassionate with her unlike how she behaved towards me because she really does need it if she is to improve on that journey.

I know her growth isn’t my responsibility but I feel like I initiated it and I’m really hoping by denying her a compassionate hearing I won’t be ending her journey.

But I have to remind myself to have compassion for myself snd my family first and recognise that I should not put myself in position where my mental health will be compromised and I’m not assertive enough to deal with her character in a way that doesn’t suck me in.

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DeepThinkingGirl · 06/03/2021 02:34

The truth is while she has been cursed with a sub conscience that leads her to behave in such a harmful way to those that love her, I have been cursed with a very weak people pleasing mom assertive sun conscience stemming from the same deep seated internalised misogyny.

I feel like I should reserve my anger to the process that brought us here in the first place. And hold on to my compassion because it’s part of me.

Sorry if I’m thinkng out loud I have too much anxiety to want to process this alone in my own head.

I think I understand her more than she understands herself. But I feel like, that makes me trust her much less..

Maybe I should have an honest conversation to just tell her why I forgive her but why I still think I’m unsure whether I trust her despite her efforts.

Maybe I should give her the benefit of the doubt even if her motivation to announce things are very self centred and self serving but people who are self loathing are usually on an adrenaline rush that only prioritize their basic needs and she thinks she will use me for her survival mode.

I do need to preserve my energy for people who I’m responsible for however. I have so much to deal with and my priority isn’t her. It was once upon a time when she needed me and I went all out to help her against her bullying.

I’m not ready emotionally for more rounds of abuse abs to be her punching bag to recover from
Insecurities even though I would love to be.

The truth is I would love to be able to help her, while at the same time being so angry that she wouldn’t love anything more than bring me down.

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DeeCeeCherry · 06/03/2021 02:39

Nope. I don't care if they're contrite or not and can't see that it would add to my life by having them anywhere in it. Let this one go, and don't overthink it.

SheldonesqueIsUnwell · 06/03/2021 06:49

Ahmoot.

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