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ISaySteadyOn · 2021-02-22T19:07:12+00:00

Thought it was my turn to start a thread.

Curlygirl06 · 02/03/2021 20:10

@smallandimperfectlyformed

Oh good for Twinkle! (I know that's not what you call her and know s/he can't be sexed for a few years). I hope that you have no side effects from the jab, whilst I did most people I know who have had it didn't

Sneakily I say hello Twinkletoes when I get her up in the morning. My daughter nearly had a baby when I suggested THAT name!!! Oh I laughed, and laughed and laughed! (I am a grown up really)

Curlygirl06 · 02/03/2021 20:11

@smallandimperfectlyformed

Oh good for Twinkle! (I know that's not what you call her and know s/he can't be sexed for a few years). I hope that you have no side effects from the jab, whilst I did most people I know who have had it didn't

Which one did you have ? I had the Oxford one.

smallandimperfectlyformed · 02/03/2021 20:19

I had the Oxford one too. I had a pretty awful reaction to it which I did mention on one of these threads but my mum, 70, diabetic, thyroid and kidney condition had nothing more than being a bit tired the next day.

MercyBooth · 02/03/2021 20:25

no jab, no job; no entrance into pub/restaurant etc (not that I go often!); no flights; no holiday places etc etc

If our new key doesnt work and EON keep pissing us about mine is , no juice, no jab!!!

MrsDeaconClaybourne · 02/03/2021 20:40

I had Oxford and felt quite poorly in the night after. Then tired and achy the next day. It was like a really bad hangover. Woke up the next day feeling completely back to normal - again a bit like a hangover.

smallandimperfectlyformed · 02/03/2021 20:49

Oh my goodness MercyBooth they really have been messing you about with your electricity card/key haven't they? It is ridiculous how badly treated people on prepayment meters are (I am with Southern Electric and have a smart meter so no issues there).

Pleasenomoreglitter · 02/03/2021 21:36

@MrsDeaconClaybourne

I had Oxford and felt quite poorly in the night after. Then tired and achy the next day. It was like a really bad hangover. Woke up the next day feeling completely back to normal - again a bit like a hangover.

I had the Oxford and felt pretty much exactly like that too. Mum had it and just had an achy arm.

Curlygirl06 · 02/03/2021 21:47

I'm fine so far, bugger twas hoping for a day off work! I'll report back in the morning.

GarlandaChynoweth · 02/03/2021 22:31

Please can we get the Stay at Home thread into classics

MercyBooth · 02/03/2021 23:14

@smallandimperfectlyformed The public have been treated badly over lockdown (most of us but in different ways) Instead of threatening us all the time they should be thanking us for what we have sacrificed and given up. Instead of Vaccine Passports and the like, MPs should be asking their constituents how they are coping with lockdown and is there anything they can do. Instead we get threats and bullying and psychological abuse. ITV have the Stay At Home logo up again. I changed channel. The Stay At Home thread Over There is great though

SirSamuelVimes · 02/03/2021 23:17

I pretty much gave up watching live TV to avoid the Stay at Home shit. Netflix all the way.

AcornAutumn · 02/03/2021 23:55

@Curlygirl06

Well, my friend and I had the jab today but under sufferance. I was never keen on it in the first place, but we can see how this is going-no jab, no job; no entrance into pub/restaurant etc (not that I go often!); no flights; no holiday places etc etc. Mark my words, it'll come to that eventually I reckon.

On the bright side, our tortoise mascot is doing well, putting on weight. Last weigh in was 40 grams-fatty!!

As I am hiding from media, I don't know if this is going this way

But I think I'm clinically vulnerable and on that basis, when I got the text,
I thought, is it worth the battle with the GP who, let's face it, is in charge of my tranquilisers?

It took me a huge battle and several months to get them prescribed for a decent night's sleep two nights a week.

If I explained my moral objections to the vaccine, I'd just get put in the "crazy" box.

If the disease becomes endemic, I was rather hoping things would calm down and I wouldn't be called every year? Took me a full five days to recover enough to do a workout. Very off putting for the second one.

AcornAutumn · 02/03/2021 23:57

@SirSamuelVimes

I pretty much gave up watching live TV to avoid the Stay at Home shit. Netflix all the way.

The other big plus of binning live TV is not paying the BBC to spout crazy shit on all manner of subjects.

starfish88 · 03/03/2021 02:13

I agree that it will fade in importance in a few years. I think this year it may be needed for travel to some places and maybe into next year. Selfishly, if it let's the government scrap the hotel quarantine for me then I will be happy. Then they will let it fade away altogether as it's going to be a nightmare to track who has had boosters etc. Plus they will only give boosters if it's worth the money and at some point it won't be, at least not for the healthy and young.

MercyBooth · 03/03/2021 03:04

twitter.com/BellRibeiroAddy/status/1366704213338783747?s=20

Pandemic rent arrears now stand at £375m with 450,000 families now behind on housing payments due to Covid-19

110APiccadilly · 03/03/2021 03:34

I'm guessing I won't be called for the jab for a bit. I'm certainly not keen to have it while breastfeeding, so that also gives me longer to think about it and see which way the wind is blowing on passports etc, as well as get an idea of what the side effects really are! We don't go abroad much - we genuinely like UK holidays (do a lot of walking) - so that won't be a problem. And even if you start to need it for the cinema, etc, I'm guessing I won't be going out much till DD is a bit older anyway.

I am concerned about the whole thing from a civil liberties point of view though, even though it might not affect me personally for a while. I'm one of those people who might be more likely to get vaccinated if there's no compulsion to be honest.

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ISaySteadyOn · 03/03/2021 06:54

I'm with you.

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LivinLaVidaLoki · 03/03/2021 06:56

DH and I both had our jabs, due to work. While he was just happy to have it (not sure happy is the word I need but he'd have had it because he'd been told to have it and that's the kind of guy he is).
I feel like I wasn't given the opportunity to consider it properly, it was very much felt like we'd been offered it so we HAD to have it. I only had mine really for 2 reasons.
1 pressure from work
2 the benefit of travel to see my family, if my options are vaccine or negative pcr result....I know which I'd be more relaxed about. Not that I'd travel if I thought I had covid but doesn't the pcr test show the virus long after it's gone? Up to 90 days or something? So if I picked it up 2 months or so before I'd be screwed.

2020BogOff · 03/03/2021 07:02

I am hoping travel with be an either or (test or vaccine) hence choosing the vaccine when I get offered it. Otherwise absolutely pointless vaccine for me but not having it at the moment just seems too much of a hassle.

I do wonder what it will be like in a couple of years? Probably just the same people who get the flu jab and the rest of us can choose to pay if we want it.

110APiccadilly · 03/03/2021 07:04

Also, I'm pretty sure DH is planning to refuse his jab primarily because he's so cross about how we've all been treated this past year. I'm not convinced I totally agree, might be a bit cutting off your nose to spite your face, but I can see his point.

But that means if I did get mine, the benefits if it allowed me to go out would be less. I'd go to the cinema on my own or with friends I suppose, but I certainly don't see me having a nice meal out so by myself. (Nothing wrong with it of course, but I wouldn't want to.)

Worldgonecrazy · 03/03/2021 08:18

We are supped to be flying to Portugal third weekend of May - booked it yonks ago thinking there was no way this would go on for more than a year for such a low risk virus for the vast majority of people . How wrong we were and the world actually got crazier and more irrational.

We are planning on seeing which way the wind blows with vaccine passports and freedom of movement. It’s strange that something we took for granted has been removed with no right of protest. Of course we can write to our MPs but that is such an easy thing for the powers that be to ignore. They know our political system guarantees them and their mates cushy jobs whatever happens.

I’m a great believer in ‘the solution will present itself’ but currently despairing of what has happened to society so quickly and so easily.

Blobby10 · 03/03/2021 09:29

I'm feeling increasingly depressed at the moment. I don't want the vaccination because I haven't seen a single logical reason to have one and don't like putting unnecessary chemicals/drugs/whatever into my body.

I don't travel on aeroplanes, I don't go to festivals, concerts, cinema etc as I don't like crowds. Don't go to pubs or restaurants very often (can't afford it!) and hate shopping for clothes - with supermarkets I'm in and out in the shortest time possible!. Don't have caring responsibilities and my job doesn't involve mixing with general public or really many people at all. I'm 52, fit and healthy although a BMI of 26.5 which is a bit high but only due to gyms being shut! A 'Covid calculator' (think it was in the Daily Fail) told me I have a less than 6% chance of being ill with Covid and requiring medical intervention.

Can anyone tell me why I NEEED this vaccine more than I need the flu vaccine (which I was invited for but didn't take up)? Or

Lostinacloud · 03/03/2021 09:42

Morning all, a bit of a tough one for me today

As some of you know, I’m in France for DH’s job and have been grateful that so far my DC have been lucky enough to have been in school (even though I absolutely detest the fact they all have to wear a mask the whole day - even my little 7 year old). France has also been a little more open and more free that the uk for quite some time and case numbers have been holding stable at around 20,000 per day without any noticeable increase at hospitals. Until now...

Apparently uk variant cases are now 95% of all cases in the Dunkirk area and their hospitals are at capacity. 20 other regions including where we live are under high surveillance with extra measures expected to begin this weekend. However, already the local council equivalent have mandated that everyone must wear a mask at all times outside and inside any public places for at least the month of March.

After a long time trying to battle my own demons and get positive after spending months just feeling pure anger everyday at the total overreaction and pointless inhumane restrictions in place for everyone, I feel I have returned to that same place this morning and once again feel so very angry. So angry that I now can’t step outside my house without putting a mask on, even though I am unlikely to pass anybody else for 10-15 before I reach the shopping area. So angry that I can’t take the dog around the park around the corner without wearing a stupid mask the whole time. It totally ruins my enjoyment of the opportunity for a walk and fresh air and I find myself seething at the fact I’m having to wear one outside in the sunshine whilst walking closely past the sum total of no-one. I just want to shout - I’M HEALTHY!!!

I don’t want to go back to being angry and frustrated all day because it ruins my sleeping patterns and I am no fun to be around for my family but am struggling to get past the fact that the situation is slowly getting worse and not better yet again!

To top it all off, the vaccine rollout in France is still totally crap and the uptake is awful too. Only 38% of health workers have accepted to be vaccinated for example. If that’s the case then they just need to learn to live with the virus and it’s consequences and let us out of prison to live our lives!!!

Thank you for allowing a safe space for my cathartic rant x

Mrsfrumble · 03/03/2021 09:55

Found this vital fact buried in a metro article this morning: “Eight out of ten of England’s Covid-19 hotspots have prisons located within them”.

The “Stay at Home” thread is hilarious, but also reassurance that people no longer believe that it’s “flocking to beaches” or joggers that are driving transmission. The lack of acknowledgement from the government and media that the riskiest places are prisons, care homes, factories, hospitals and overcrowded housing in economically deprived communities, and they are places that people generally don’t CHOOSE to be, means that it’s easier to keep blaming the public for the choices we can make.

110APiccadilly · 03/03/2021 10:34

I keep seeing that vaccine immunity is probably better (as in, more effective) than natural immunity. Now, this is not my area, but I'd never heard that for any other vaccine. Is it likely to be true? I can't see what mechanism would make it so, but I am not an expert in this area. Anyone with more knowledge than me have an opinion?