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Framing Britney- anyone watching?

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AngeloMysterioso · 16/02/2021 20:48

It’s on sky documentaries at 9.

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UserID779 · 16/02/2021 20:49

Britney Spears?

BlueTimes · 16/02/2021 20:50

I really feel for her. She has been used by the music/entertainment industry since she was a child.

AngeloMysterioso · 16/02/2021 20:53

@UserID779

Britney Spears?
Yep
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Theorangeorange · 16/02/2021 22:23

It's been quite a hard watch. I feel so sorry for her, especially seeing her as a new mother

SpaceRaiders · 16/02/2021 22:30

I watched it a few days ago. Her father is a total scumbag for sure, aided by his legal team, that she funds. I couldn’t get my head round the whole concept, that she is well enough to perform multi million dollar shows in Vegas, but can’t be trusted to deal with her own affairs.

AngeloMysterioso · 16/02/2021 22:36

It’s shady as anything. Of course her father’s legal team, who she is paying for, do not want his control over her to end. She’s their cash cow. He’s making an absolute fortune.

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JoanneCofton · 16/02/2021 22:39

I’ve just watched it. I’m a massive Britney fan and have been to watch every tour she’s done. It’s such a shame
What’s been done to her and watching the pap’s hounding her was hard to watch. Her father is scum and will do anything to keep the cash coming in. She’s been failed by everyone around her and I don’t think she’ll ever be free

qalb · 16/02/2021 22:39

Those pictures of her as a new mother are haunting, I keep seeing them on social media. She must have been going through hell. It was a really difficult watch, poor Britney.

JerichoGirl · 16/02/2021 22:43

I watched it, found it desperately sad. And outrageous.

As for the paparazzi stalking/harrasament, the misogyny of the talk show hosts and low brow publications, I wish they could be prosecuted for hate crimes. This shit still goes on though.

Always admired Britney, cannot understand the level of vitriol that has been levelled against her.

scrivette · 16/02/2021 22:44

It made for very uncomfortable viewing.

Bluntness100 · 16/02/2021 22:53

Yeah I watched it, the issue I think is it’s all sealed.

For me, I come back to the fact the judge has a lot more information than is being released to the public, and is privy to a huge amount of independent assessments, from medical to her estate, to her life. And deems this in her best interests. There’s no way round that.

She clearly hates her father, but the oversight he’s provided the judge has clearly deemed has been in her best interests. Including working. Which seems to make her happy. There’s no way round that either.

I feel really sorry for them all. Whatever is wrong with her, is completely sealed, and it simply leads to speculation. At some point we will find out, but that point isn’t any time soon,

felulageller · 16/02/2021 23:45

They should be sent to jail for what they've done to her

JerichoGirl · 17/02/2021 04:11

@Bluntness100

Yeah I watched it, the issue I think is it’s all sealed.

For me, I come back to the fact the judge has a lot more information than is being released to the public, and is privy to a huge amount of independent assessments, from medical to her estate, to her life. And deems this in her best interests. There’s no way round that.

She clearly hates her father, but the oversight he’s provided the judge has clearly deemed has been in her best interests. Including working. Which seems to make her happy. There’s no way round that either.

I feel really sorry for them all. Whatever is wrong with her, is completely sealed, and it simply leads to speculation. At some point we will find out, but that point isn’t any time soon,

Bollocks to the best interests argument. How can that possibly be true if she has no say? It's sexist, condescending and controlling.
midsomermurderess · 17/02/2021 05:58

Salt, very sweeping statements when you do not know what is going on with her. Fan girl all you like, but you do so in utter ignorance.

NoGoodPunsLeft · 17/02/2021 07:43

independent assessments, from medical to her estate, to her life.

All paid for by her dad & people he pays.

It's like a court case, each side can pay for expert witnesses who tell a story which contradict each other, how do you know who's right?

Isn't she meant to have early onset dementia or Alzheimer's?! She may have mental health issues but her dad is massively out of order.

Bluntness100 · 17/02/2021 07:54

These comments are Illogical.

Firstly she has independently appointed medical experts and a court appointed lawyer, she is assessed constantly.

Secondly none of us know what’s wrong with her. The court is satisfied that this is in her best interests, because she lacks capacity and is highly vulnerable to influence from people who mean her harm.

I know it’s more fun to believe it’s all a big conspiracy, and she’s being held against her will, and it’s not this woman is unwell and at risk. But the court has decided that the latter is true. She’s unwell and at risk. The fact we have not been told the details of her diagnoses to protect her privacy doesn’t change that.

All the free Britney bollocks is just that. Even Britney doesn’t want freed. She just wants her father gone. But as she lacks the ability to understand who is working in her interests and who isn’t, then a court needs to review all the independent evidence on her behalf and decide. And that’s been done.

JerichoGirl · 17/02/2021 09:11

@Bluntness100

These comments are Illogical.

Firstly she has independently appointed medical experts and a court appointed lawyer, she is assessed constantly.

Secondly none of us know what’s wrong with her. The court is satisfied that this is in her best interests, because she lacks capacity and is highly vulnerable to influence from people who mean her harm.

I know it’s more fun to believe it’s all a big conspiracy, and she’s being held against her will, and it’s not this woman is unwell and at risk. But the court has decided that the latter is true. She’s unwell and at risk. The fact we have not been told the details of her diagnoses to protect her privacy doesn’t change that.

All the free Britney bollocks is just that. Even Britney doesn’t want freed. She just wants her father gone. But as she lacks the ability to understand who is working in her interests and who isn’t, then a court needs to review all the independent evidence on her behalf and decide. And that’s been done.

That is so naive.

For starters the term "best interests" is very woolly. Who gets to decide what another person's "best interests" are? Particularly old men electing the "best interests" of a young woman who pays their bills, who have vested interest in keeping her controlled.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what a travesty this is, though I'm starting to have serious doubts about the average person's IQ given how long this circus has endured. Abused in plain sight.

ArmsClary · 17/02/2021 09:37

I think @Bluntness100 has hit the nail on the head.

Bluntness100 · 17/02/2021 09:52

Who gets to decide what another person's "best interests" are

The senior court judge does. Based on all the independent evidence provided to her.

DoreenWinkings · 17/02/2021 11:33

The conservatorship aside, the treatment she received from the press and media was absolutely shocking.

That interview with Diane Sawyer was fucking awful. That poor girl, imagine someone saying you deserve to be shot (when you're 20 years old ffs) and a fully grown woman sitting there telling you it's basically your own fault for being... too sexy??

So fucked up.

ArmsClary · 17/02/2021 12:40

Agreed @DoreenWinkings and the questions about her breasts and virginity (from men Hmm) during interviews were repulsive to watch.

Bearnecessity · 17/02/2021 12:58

Britney agreed to the Conservatorship but never wanted her father to be in charge, her most basic wish was ignored and is still being ignored. If the Conservatorship is deemed necessary for whatever reasons Britney's wish for an independent party to be in charge of it should be allowed, imo.

Bluntness100 · 17/02/2021 13:20

@Bearnecessity

Britney agreed to the Conservatorship but never wanted her father to be in charge, her most basic wish was ignored and is still being ignored. If the Conservatorship is deemed necessary for whatever reasons Britney's wish for an independent party to be in charge of it should be allowed, imo.
I would agree, this seems hard to understand . The issue is the court must be reviewing it and deeming that what her father is doing is in her best interests based on all the independent assessments.

And that he is best placed to ensure she lives a life that makes her happy but also protects her. That she needs a family member and not just Faceless corporations to do that. The fact she hates him is apparently not as relevant as we think it should be. If not her father, who else would do it? Other than paid corporations? She personally requested her care manager did it originally. Ran the estate element. Which lets face it is batshit. The care manager had no desire to manage her multi million dollar estate and deals. So then it moved to a financial institute.

As it’s clear she is vulnerable to exploitation from people and lacks the ability to decide if someone is acting in her interests or trying to exploit her, you need to extrapolate that to her father also. She’s unable to see if he’s acting in her interests or not and trying to enable her to live a life that makes her happy as far as possible, whilst also protecting her from herself and others. She just friggen hates him.

It’s difficult to comprehend because it’s sealed. No one is saying “look this is her diagnoses, this is how it manifests, this is the prognosis, this is the issues she’s faced, and this is how she was exploited by others before the breakdown”. No one is talking on that score, least of all Britney herself.

Bearnecessity · 17/02/2021 15:04

Yes Bluntness we know what the courts are doing and why; while you feel the divine right of the court exists other people are not so absolutist about it. Britney is a human being with emotions and intelligence, the wholesale disregard for both of these is not validated just because a court decrees it. If an independent party is agreeable to Britney there is no reason why this could not have been done. There are people who do this (paid) and it functions well, it need not be an immediate family member.

Bluntness100 · 17/02/2021 16:00

@Bearnecessity

Yes Bluntness we know what the courts are doing and why; while you feel the divine right of the court exists other people are not so absolutist about it. Britney is a human being with emotions and intelligence, the wholesale disregard for both of these is not validated just because a court decrees it. If an independent party is agreeable to Britney there is no reason why this could not have been done. There are people who do this (paid) and it functions well, it need not be an immediate family member.
I’m sorry but you do understand that firstly Britney is not objecting to the conservatoire, just her father being involved in the estate, and secondly when someone lacks capacity and is at risk, then the courts need to act

I don’t understand why they have permitted her father to continue. But I do know one thing for sure, and that’s the judge knows a shit ton more than any of us do.

Not understanding it due to lack of information behind the decision is one thing. Declaring the judge wrong, with no information to enable you to make that proclamation is something else entirely.

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