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Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)

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file · 01/02/2021 19:04

Inspired by the thread on things that baffle you in other countries, where quite a lot of the discussion related to homes in other countries, I thought it’d be interesting with a thread showing standard homes in different countries and some information about how choices have been made when it comes to their layout etc.

So here are two links to two different homes in Sweden. This one (you’ll get straight to a gallery with pictures and the layout is at the bottom) is a fairly typical house built in the 1970s:
www.hemnet.se/bostad/villa-6rum-rodeby-karlskrona-kommun-fasanvagen-6-17145055#gallery

There are several areas to sit outside, wooden decking areas. There is a large hallway, easy to store clothes and put away shoes. There are two lounges – very common, and normally desired, for families; one for the parents, one for children to have friends in etc. The kitchen was probably a room of its own in the 1970s, but it’s now more or less open to the lounge. There is a separate utility room, and a big storage room with a separate entrance (“förråd”). There is also an indoors storage room, “Klk”. There are bedrooms on the ground floor as well as on the first floor – this is very common, people like not having all bedrooms next to each other (so do I!). Sometimes when the children get older parents like to move downstairs and leave the upstairs to the children completely (including cleaning haha!). In this house, the downstairs bedrooms are kind of tucked away, but it is also common to have a bedroom literally inside the entrance door for example.

When this house was built and bought, the upstairs probably wasn’t ready – people would buy a house that was ‘half-done’ and then when they had saved more money they’d do the upstairs too. So there is no proper bathroom upstairs, just a loo; this is very unusual. (And usually, all bathrooms and loos are fully tiled – all new built houses always have fully tiled bathrooms and toilets, so this is a house that has not been renovated to what is now standard.)

It is also very typical that there are no doors to the lounge/hallway for example. I think that is one reason why Scandi people feel that English houses are so crowded/small/narrow, there’s no open space (even without expanding it would feel more airy if there weren’t doors to three rooms on the ground floor from a very narrow hallway, for example).

So people buying this house would probably fit a proper bathroom upstairs, for example. The downstairs looks quite ‘normal’ and ready to go.

This is quite a standard, recently built flat for families (in fact, it’s just being built, so there are options for the first buyer to choose between, different bathroom tiles for example).

www.hemnet.se/bostad/lagenhet-4rum-majorna-goteborgs-kommun-fixfabrikens-gata-4-17184735#gallery

Three bedrooms, two bathrooms, one of them also has a washing machine and a drier. Two balconies (this is unusual, one is standard), open plan living again. Quite a lot of cupboards/storage, including in the hallway and built in wardrobes in every room. Specific cleaning cupboard in the kitchen area. Big windows – really important, this is one thing I miss in England.

(Bedrooms are never presented as 'double' or 'single' - I don't know any 'child' living at home who had a double bed, and everything is measured in sq metres - it'd be pointless information for someone that a double bedroom, it doesn't say anything about the size, apart from the fact that it is at least 2x2 metres ;-) )

Would be really interesting to see a standard home in Italy/France/Spain/Ireland/the Netherlands for example and hear about the choices made there/what people like and want, I’ve never been in any :-)

I can post some homes in Denmark later on too if anyone's interested.

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SexyGiraffe · 02/02/2021 19:27

This thread IS interesting!

More Spanish house trivia:

  • traditional houses do not generally have central heating (and it does getting pretty cold here in the winter) and few have mains gas. You have to get butane gas bottles delivered or from the garage and hook them up to your hob or gas fire. We have central heating but have to get a gas lorry in twice a year to fill up a huge gas tank that sits under our garden.
  • it's normal to have an outdoor kitchen for the tradition of making paella after church on Sunday, but now often used for barbecues. Even quite cheap houses tend to have them although this picture is from a nicer one. We have one in our garden - designed for wood fire cooked paella although now most people have a gas ring and another butane bottle.
Houses in other countries (inspired by what baffles you about other countries)
SaturdayAfternoon · 02/02/2021 20:20

I love scandi Rightmove type sites. Often the outside of the houses are nothing special, but then the inside is so calm. I love the stylised photos - selling a lifestyle. (They must have a room full of clutter somewhere....!)

www.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=205959867

www.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=205290196

www.finn.no/realestate/homes/ad.html?finnkode=205529143

SaturdayAfternoon · 02/02/2021 20:33

I meant to say that there seems to be a 'thing' for artfully draped blankets/ artfully messy beds in the last one.🤔

banivani · 02/02/2021 20:50

Listen scandi listings are heavily staged for selling. There definitely are people who live that life, but generally speaking the clutter gets shoved in the garage or cellar, there could even be new furniture in via home staging companies, new plants and everything bought... at least in Sweden so much now is about aspirational lifestyle that in the big cities the Look can add lots to your profits. Look outside that and it’s... less aspirational. ;)

oobedobe · 02/02/2021 21:49

Here's a variety of houses from Canada (Hamilton, Ontario), traditionally a 'cheaper' city to live in but prices are climbing rapidly here.

Grand Victorian home (in the neighbourhood where they film Handmaids Tale)
www.realtor.ca/real-estate/22539778/254-bay-street-s-hamilton

What I would call a slightly 'above average' detached family home (but mostly out of reach for younger families)
www.realtor.ca/real-estate/22764140/95-macbean-crescent-waterdown

A more 'average' new build townhouse/starter home
www.realtor.ca/real-estate/22757327/69-bradbury-road-stoney-creek

Best thing about Canadian homes is probably full basements; a good 1/3 of our living space is down there, usually contain a family room, gym area, extra bedroom, lots of storage space, cold storage area, office etc

Also air conditioning is standard (on the East coast).

Good storage, the newer homes all have big built in closets in every bedroom and a walk-in for the master bedroom.

VetOnCall · 02/02/2021 22:03

These are pretty typical homes in this part of Canada. Newer houses tend to be very open plan, have very high end kitchen appliances which come with the house, lots of bathrooms, huge master bedroom suites, laundry room often upstairs, usually a large 'bonus room' upstairs plus a finished basement with bedroom(s), bathroom(s) and space for a bar/gym/games room/den. Gardens are usually small, with a deck and maybe a hot tub.

Typical family home in nice middle class neighbourhood
calgaryhomes.ca/listing/a1059422-157-cougar-ridge-close-southwest-calgary-alberta-t3h-4e3/

Typical house in a high end newer neighbourhood
calgaryhomes.ca/listing/a1056016-188-ascot-drive-southwest-calgary-alberta-t3h-0v2/

Super fancy McMansion in high end neighbourhood
calgaryhomes.ca/listing/a1053295-8-aspen-ridge-manor-southwest-calgary-alberta-t3h-0t4/

Huge McMansion with 2 acres in neighbourhood on edge of city looking towards the Rocky Mountains
calgaryhomes.ca/listing/a1059027-132-grandview-way-rural-rocky-view-county-alberta-t3z-0a8/

City centre apartment
calgaryhomes.ca/listing/a1065440-2001-220-12-avenue-southeast-calgary-alberta-t2g-0r5/

Older, cheaper bungalow property, there are still a lot of these in older neighbourhoods
calgaryhomes.ca/listing/a1064050-54-midridge-rise-southeast-calgary-alberta-t2x-1e3/

SaturdayAfternoon · 02/02/2021 22:26

@banivani

Listen scandi listings are heavily staged for selling. There definitely are people who live that life, but generally speaking the clutter gets shoved in the garage or cellar, there could even be new furniture in via home staging companies, new plants and everything bought... at least in Sweden so much now is about aspirational lifestyle that in the big cities the Look can add lots to your profits. Look outside that and it’s... less aspirational. ;)
Oh, I know they’re heavily staged, but that’s part of the fun. Take what would be an ugly flat (from the outside) and turn it into something cosy and chic.
Howzaboutye · 02/02/2021 22:35

Oooh this is so interesting! I love seeing how people really live!
Interesting that weather isn't accounted for in SA and Oz so no heating.

I imagine pre internet days moving country was considerably more challenging, as you would expect everything to be the same, but so much is different.

I worked in France for a while, the houses in the small town all had outside wooden window shutters. With the most amazing little busts/people to hold them back. Never seen them before or since. Must have been very 'local' thing.

All the new houses in Northern Ireland are hard floors downstairs, carpet upstairs. England- carpet everywhere.

I lived in a 1950s house for a while in West London- it had a small loo room with sink separate from the bathroom. So civilized! If I ever get to design a big bathroom I'm definitely having the loo separate

Howzaboutye · 02/02/2021 22:38

On the app, no paragraphs sorry.

I find the Japanese bathing thing fascinating. But it comes from people having only showers in the house bathroom. And a communal bath for each local area. Male female and family, like hot tubs. So that's where the scrub yourself with soap, rinse off with fresh water THEN get in the bath totally clean comes from. Makes sense really.

I've done that ever since I learnt it. Now I think lying in grimy water to be revolting, love a hot clean bath with nice oils.

Duckchick · 02/02/2021 23:01

A few things I still find odd about UK houses versus central Europe are the lack of light switches in bathrooms (no where else I know has the same rules about pull cords) and the tiny light switches in the middle of a big socket. At home, the switches are almost the same size as the socket to make them easier to find in the dark.

I also miss shutters, they are so much more effective at keeping a room dark / cool in the summer.

MouseholeCat · 02/02/2021 23:25

I'm in the US so not as interesting as some of the other examples but figured I'd share as there is so much variety. My location is a small university city in the midwest.

Lower-income suburban duplex:
www.zillow.com/homedetails/5101-Geyser-Blvd-Columbia-MO-65202/2075381293_zpid/

Typical lower-income, inner suburban ring shotgun style, usually built in 1940's-1950's:
www.zillow.com/homedetails/1000-Madison-St-Columbia-MO-65203/58699261_zpid/

Middle class suburban new build, the kind of thing you'd buy as a starter home:
www.zillow.com/homedetails/2505-Contessa-Loop-Columbia-MO-65202/243162071_zpid/

Older style suburban walkout basement ranch, usually owned by older couples with kids who left home 10+ years ago:
www.zillow.com/homedetails/712-Eastlake-Dr-Columbia-MO-65203/58705082_zpid/

'Fancy' apartments:
www.apartments.com/aria-apartments-columbia-mo/svh99v4/

Upper middle class suburban new build:
www.zillow.com/homedetails/7004-Armstrong-Dr-Columbia-MO-65202/243162053_zpid/

Most expensive house in my city:
www.zillow.com/homedetails/3100-W-Old-Field-Rd-Columbia-MO-65203/67323267_zpid/

Longdistance · 02/02/2021 23:44

This is a typical house in Hungary. My grandma and aunts had similar houses. All different colours. They have shutters on the windows either outside with a pully mechanism on the inside (excuse the dog pun), or there were solid wood shutters on the inside. Most of the roofs had steps going up to them with a loft space. The house have high gates and post boxes, so no one actually comes onto your property.
When we lived in Oz we had a post box too. Heating the house was impossible and obviously the fences were metal so bush fires wouldn’t burn your house down. It was all open plan living, we like it so much we have an open plan kitchen and we installed a walk in pantry and separate laundry room. The tin roof was a nightmare in winter if the hail stones came.

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SweatyBetty20 · 03/02/2021 00:20

@GADDay - I stayed in one of those wooden houses last year; went to stay with a friend who had moved back to Brisbane. What really impressed me was that you could do as she did and jack them up! She just used her downstairs space as storage but some people had built underneath and rented it out. Found that they had very thin walls though; the room I stayed in was next to their bathroom and I could hear her husband having a shit in graphic detail...

Bloodybridget · 03/02/2021 03:55

The thing about inside window sills puzzles me: I'm a Londoner (UK) - the 1930s block of flats where I grew up had them, but since then 3 Victorian houses and a 1960's ex-council flat haven't. House windows just have very narrow "lips" at the bottom, not deep enough to put anything on, and this is the same in the many similar houses I've visited.

redcandlelight · 03/02/2021 06:18

yes to electrics in the bathroom.
common in germany/netherlands and other countries to have full sockets for hairdryer/shaver/toothbrush near the sink.
the lightswitch is by the door on the outside of the bathroom though, which can be be a pain with mischivous people in the house.

TheOtherBoelynGirl · 03/02/2021 06:23

"yes to electrics in the bathroom.
common in germany/netherlands and other countries to have full sockets for hairdryer/shaver/toothbrush near the sink."

I think that's true for most countries outside the UK, isn't it?

StartupRepair · 03/02/2021 06:35

Here is what you can get in one of Melbourne's most exclusive suburbs for just under $10 million! www.domain.com.au/21-huntingfield-road-toorak-vic-3142-2016638674

DinosApple · 03/02/2021 06:41

My grandparents home (UK) didn't have window sills, but did have sash windows until they were replaced with double glazing. The hall there was long and narrow, and the only cupboard was under the stairs, but it was Victorian so perhaps they didn't have the coat storage needs.

I'm interested in the heating systems really.
It's interesting to hear that some places don't have central heating - do those houses have a fireplace and chimney instead or do people just have plug in heaters?

Also Scandinavian countries- how is the average home heated?
I get the impression that homes are better insulated and better heated there. What sort of insulation is standard?

In the houses I've lived in three had gas central heating, one oil. The boilers heat the water and the radiators. We had underfloor heating plumbed into the extension in our last house, which was amazing, but it's not standard here, some new builds might have it, but they'd be pricier.
Our current home has triple glazing, but a boiler that is twenty years old and not very efficient. I miss hearing bird song even though the windows are shut Grin.

JaninaDuszejko · 03/02/2021 06:59

yes to electrics in the bathroom.
common in germany/netherlands and other countries to have full sockets for hairdryer/shaver/toothbrush near the sink.

I wonder how many people get electrocuted? A hairdryer in a bathroom is a horrendous idea.

Porridgeoat · 03/02/2021 07:06

Berry - beautiful front door

Elements - stunning house.

Interesting thread. Highlights how pokey British houses are

DamnitImTired · 03/02/2021 07:26

High end estate living in South Africa. Obviously not representative of the majority of the population...

Houses in this estate vary from Grand to Small Flats or Apartments. Also on the outskirts of a metropolitan area so country like living. #Goals!

Upper earning South Africans tend to live large ... Big Cars Big Houses Big Security and of course back up Electricity!

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DamnitImTired · 03/02/2021 07:30

@DamnitImTired

High end estate living in South Africa. Obviously not representative of the majority of the population...

Houses in this estate vary from Grand to Small Flats or Apartments. Also on the outskirts of a metropolitan area so country like living. #Goals!

Upper earning South Africans tend to live large ... Big Cars Big Houses Big Security and of course back up Electricity!

And to add .... At the current exchange rate to the pound you would get a 4 bedroomed house with en suite bathrooms in each, open plan kitchen lounge dining room, heated swimming pool, staff quarters, double garage for about $325,000 - Bargain!
Nonamesavail · 03/02/2021 07:37

My hallway in the UK is awful. Why are they so thin with lots of doors. Everyone piling in with muddy feet and kids pushing and shoving each other. I hate it.

Nonamesavail · 03/02/2021 07:40

@TheOtherBoelynGirl

"yes to electrics in the bathroom. common in germany/netherlands and other countries to have full sockets for hairdryer/shaver/toothbrush near the sink."

I think that's true for most countries outside the UK, isn't it?

I dont think I have ever needed a socket in the bathroom?
GnomeDePlume · 03/02/2021 07:43

Netherlands, new town in South Holland:

www.funda.nl/en/koop/bergschenhoek/huis-87641427-douwes-dekkerlaan-14/

This is reclaimed land. Houses are built of concrete then brick faced.

Land drainage everywhere means canals. When we lived there we had a fishing licence and a small boat. It is quite common for the water to not be fenced off. Roads are brindle block not tarmac.

Ensuite bathrooms seem to be far less common than in the UK. Simple kitchen with a serious coffee machine.

Large open sitting room with a big picture window to admire the back garden. Quite possibly a retracting shade to keep the sun out in summer.

There are lots and lots of play areas. In the alleys between streets there are marble cups set in the paving.

We lived in the small town where this house is advertised. Loved it.