Woke up to an email CC’d to 72 people to tell me my work is wrong

[CcWanker]

It literally just says

“This is WRONG Jane. WRONG”

I send out a report each week to all 72 people. One of those people has found an error and replied to all 72 with the above.

The report is literally a rundown of figures sent to me from different people which I collate into this report, it’s basically a weekly sitrep.

1. the error is so minor it makes no difference to anything
2. it isn’t my error it’s the error of the person who sent me that part of the report

This report goes out to exec level people all the way down to the bottom of the food chain. The person who has cc’d everyone is a very senior manager.

Do I respond to just her or everyone and make it clear it’s not my error?

The update manager's response was excellent. I would assume there has also been (or will be) an offline conversation at senior level about what dickhead sent to everyone.

So now I think the best response is no response.

Haha I love it when wankers are put in their place!

I agree. Your dignified silence sprake volumes. Love that manager!

To bcc to a group you just put the group name in the bcc box and your own in the 'to' box. If you can't see the bcc box then you need to adjust your outlook settings.

I think that:

1. NoSquirrels should be banned for breaking all known mumsnet etiquette by making the first reply a sensible one.

1. The other manager has annoyed me because their reply now forces you to be silent :( which means you can't point out it's someone else's error and also is so much less fun than sending this:

1. justchecking1

" I will sort that IMMEDIATELY, Betty. IMMEDIATELY" which would have been gold had you already had a new job lined up.

OP your best bet on Monday is to appear completely unruffled to 2nd manager.

@MzHz

Before anyone gets upset about what *@GabsAlot* said, let’s all be really clear that Priti Patel has been found to be a bully at work. More than once.

Payments have been made and what we know is probably the tip of the iceberg

Bullies should be called out and made examples of. PP should have been dealt with approximately and civil servants should be better protected against bullies.

TBH, Gabsalot said what I'd been thinking - for the reasons you have stated.

Yup - I know. Makes me cringe. And I remind myself of it every time I'm about to send an angry email. Seriously I'm really glad someone slapped me for it.

I behaved very rudely to a junior colleague once. I was under a great deal of stress and just snapped.

Like you, I wasn't proud of myself - I was thoroughly ashamed and I apologised publicly for my behaviour - but it was a horrible thing to do and I am still ashamed when I think about it.

Glad to hear that someone higher up is on it.

But OP the information you have provided here is quite specific re the number of recipients etc. You may want to ask for this thread to be deleted, if any of your colleagues are parents and may read this - or if the Daily Fail picks it up!

I'm mortified on your behalf.

She's clearly toxic and needs to be let go. That behaviour shouldn't be acceptable in an organisation that cares about professionalism or having a strong culture. I'd do as people are saying, and perhaps forward to HR to say that you don't feel that this email isn't appropriate and doesn't fit with company values (assuming they have some).

What a fucking bitch. Not your fault - at all.

Sorry it's so stressful.

I’m a bit in love with whoever sent the second email. Go for the jugular on Monday, OP. WHADDABITCH.

Karma 🌺

You'd just reply with "ok I'll check with the person who gave me the info, ta" or something wouldn't you?

Mind you snaking people with reply to all emails or emails with half the fucking company cc'd in is apparently normal practice in my work. The first time someone did to me I was quite upset, the next time I was quite rude back myself, and since them I just think oh whatever sadarse and either respond or don't depending on how much I care (rarely do I care that much).

@CcWanker

I’m not sure how I can bcc anyone. I send the original email and the 72 are a contact group. I just type the name of the group and it goes to all 72 of them if you see what I mean.

You just need to type the group name in the bcc box instead of the to or cc box, everyone gets the email same as normal but cannot see who else it has been sent to, they also cannot do reply all.

@hellotesting123123 there’s absolutely no reason for OP to be mortified. She’s come out on top.

I'd reply all and state it's not your error, you collate all the information, BUT I wouldn't name who made the error, as suggested up thread. Stay classy. Plus you'll earn points with everyone else and make the manager look like a dick.

The second manager responded in a kind and appropriate manner and at some point @CcWanker I hope you can express your thanks.

Perhaps if the original unpleasant manager did not read emails or reply to them at weekends the rest from work might make them less unpleasant. Though perhaps that is a vain hope.

That is one of the worst uses of work email I have seen. Rude, unprofessional and worse, it doesn't add anything. In my workplace that would likely lead to sacking

@ElizaLaLa

I'd reply all and state it's not your error, you collate all the information, BUT I wouldn't name who made the error, as suggested up thread. Stay classy. Plus you'll earn points with everyone else and make the manager look like a dick.

No, absolutely not, in relation to replying all, saying 'it's not my error'. Presumably everyone who submits information is responsible for the accuracy of it. And they are aware that it is not up to the OP to check the accuracy.

I used to compile reports from various teams for the head of a department, once upon a time. I wouldn't know the minutiae of their work, nor did I need to. The people submitting the reports were all very senior. If there was an error, it was theirs, and that was where the responsibility for accuracy of facts and figures lay, and they were all aware of that.

Getting multiple, unnecessary emails is annoying for everyone.
Plus staying silent makes the rude person look what they are...rude.

@BlueTimes

I’d leave it for today but then I would reply saying “thank you for your email. Just to clarify, it’s not my job to check the information collated and forwarded which is where this error originated. However, I can confirm it does not impact on the rest of the information provided which is correct.”

Then I would log a grievance with HR for bullying because being belittled like that is office bullying.

Don't send this. It may be factual however it comes across as defensive.

You've over 70 witnesses to her unwarranted rudeness towards you.

@CcWanker for future reference, this screenshot shows how you do bcc in an email. It is standard practice for preventing awkward reply-alls.

It is also used in situations where it would be a breach of GDPR to disclose all of the email addresses to the recipients (for example the PTA secretary at your child's school probably uses it).

Yeh agree don't reply as it just looks like squabbling. The email has already been rebuked so just keep Ur nose clean! Update please!

OP, I'm hoping you've been discussing this with your manager.

Otherwise, I'd suggest you simply get an updated report sent out just stating something like "Please find amended report attached". Keep it simple, the other manager has done what's needed by sending that rebuke yesterday.

@PegasusReturns - I mean mortified as in mortified at the other person's behaviour. Not because she has a reason to be embarrassed.

What an awful manager!

Definitely make it clear that it wasn't your error, OP. In a tactful and professional manner, natch.

@redsquirrelfan

I would send No Squirrel's message but with a note saying "sorry for such a wide circulation list but as so many people were cc'd I have assumed you would like hear my response - please let us know if you want to be removed from future emails on this matter" thereby making it clear that you've noticed all the cc's.

And then email the sender separately and say that you expect her to advise you privately of any errors in future and if she pulls a stunt like that again you will be involving HR/her manager.

Urgh if someone did this I'd think they were ridiculous. Noone wants to be copied on someone else's petty squabble.

This report goes out to exec level people all the way down to the bottom of the food chain.

Please don't say 'the bottom of the food chain' even about yourself.