Has anyone’s dd NOT had the HPV vaccine at 12/13?

[Getbusywiththefizzie]

A couple of dd’s friends are having their first hpv vaccine today.
I have had an in-depth conversation with her about the vaccine and what it does and how it will protect her in the future so she fully understands that it is the best thing for her future health and she has agreed to have it in a year or so.
She says she just isn’t ready for it yet.
Has anyone’s dd put off their vaccine at this age and had it done at a later date?

@TalesTheCat

At the age of 21 I had abnormal cells. Luckily I was tested then, Probably due to childbirth, as the age is now 25. If I'd had the smear at 25 it could have been cancer. I explained this to my daughter and even tho she is terrified of needles she decided it was better than what I had has done (lletz? I think that'd what it's called) I just wish it had been available when I was a teen.

Yes, LLETZ ( Large Loop Excision of the Transitional Zone) The reason the screening guidelines were changed to aged 25 is because there were so many false positives as a result of hormonal changes during adolescence and young adulthood

She'd change her mind quickly if she'd witnessed the bloody agony-inducing smear I had a few weeks ago. Just tell her it's not an option to wait. If vomiting was a known side effect I'd have some sympathy. But it's not. :/

I wouldn't delay having it done due to her fear of vomiting, its still going to be a fear of hers next year too so she won't want it then either. She shouldn't really get a choice

I wonder if she’ll still have fear of vomiting when she starts drinking. She’ll need to know her limits early on and stick to them 🤨

@Fluffycloudland77

I wonder if she’ll still have fear of vomiting when she starts drinking. She’ll need to know her limits early on and stick to them 🤨

Oh drunk vomiting is just the worst.

You might want to bear in mind that when she gets to 15 without having the vaccine, she will need to have 3 doses to be fully protected.

My son has been offered it and will be having it. He won't like but he would like being seriously ill much less so he's having the vaccine.

My daughter is 17 and hasnt had it.

@Judashascomeintosomemoney beat me to it:

They literally are in charge of making the decision. Under Gillick Competency the DD will be able to make her decision which the parent can’t override. It’s usually the parent saying no and the child then consents and receives the vaccine, but it could work the other way round. As far as I remember the consent form makes this clear.

OP, start by googling side effects of the vaccination. I doubt vomiting is at all likely. If necessary get in touch with the school and ask if they have any resources about the side effects that could help.

Also point out that one of the biggest side effects of the chemotherapy drugs used to treat cancer is vomiting.

I feel for her - a close friend of mine has emetophobia, and it's no fun at all. Like all mental health issues, it's not really under your control, but there are resources out there (e.g. CBT) to help you manage symptoms and stop them making ordinary tasks (like getting an injection) unmanageable.
OP has to work on persuasion rather than "putting her foot down," "being the parent," etc. etc. Because legally her DD can simply say to the school nurse on the day "I don't consent to this" and that's the end of it.

Oops, my paragraph order has somehow got scrambled!

@Getbusywiththefizzie

For context dd isn’t wanting to put it off for the sake of it, she suffers from emetophobia which I am trying to get help for (unsuccessfully as gp isn’t taking it seriously) and deeply fears the jab will make her vomit.

This is EXACTLY why I didn't have mine when I was offered it. I was in Y12 at the time as it was brand new and we were offered it through our GPs. My best friend got hers first and vomited several times. I chose not to because of that.

I deeply, deeply regret that now. But at the time the anxiety was so high that it took over sense. Plus at that age you really do think you're invincible.

Show this to your DD if you must. Let her know that there's someone who feels exactly the same way as her, and who wishes badly they'd made a different decision back then!

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I've had mine done and never looked back. Would rather have it than possibly give myself cervical cancer. My daughter would be having it too.

My relative was eligible at school but didn't have it because her parents are antivaxxers. Now she is an adult and she has HPV. So she has a higher risk of cervical cancer and she has to have a smear test every year.

@Hollywhiskey

My relative was eligible at school but didn't have it because her parents are antivaxxers. Now she is an adult and she has HPV. So she has a higher risk of cervical cancer and she has to have a smear test every year.

Most women get HPV at some point. I know the vaccine is a good thing, but even without it the vast vast majority will get it, clear it, and go back to normal 3-yearly smears quite quickly. So getting HPV really isn't a bad thing for the majority.

I was worried about throwing up after the vaccine too. One thing that made me 100% certain to get it was being told “you can have two injections and be protected, or have a chance of getting cancer and having many more needles”. I had slight nausea but was perfectly fine, sore arm for a day and that was all (it was more likely to be anxiety nausea from the panic attack I had earlier that day). Also worth bearing in mind she’ll likely have the Meningitis one too next year?

Coming from someone with emetephobia, it is so terrifying to that fact that I will have panic attacks even at the point where I’m just a tiny bit nauseous. It’s really hard to persuade someone to do something that may have a side effect of nausea/vomiting. Please be considerate of this.

Not everybody drinks. Especially for someone with emetephobia, they will probably avoid drinking.

not eveyrone is sexually active bruh

My ds had his this year.. A year late due to covid.

I think you are giving your child far too much information.. My Ds knew hecwas having it. Text didnt come through from school till ds was at school so i text.. said you are having a vaxination today. ... He had zero side effects btw

My DS had it a few weeks ago with no side effects whatsoever. I agree that her fears will only grow.

I would also add. Children just get on with far more at school. She is far more likely to follow along with mates

My sister died a horrible death of cervical cancer at 29. It still haunts me every single day. She was so scared of dying. WTF are you doing not stepping up as a parent and insisting your daughter has the jab? Can you imagine burying your daughter as my parents had to? It destroyed our family. PLEASE get her to have it. It was a horrible death. She was diagnosed in July and given a 70% chance of living and died 5 months later having never left hospital. Her last 24 hours she was vomiting blood and poo because it had gone to her bowel.

Both my DDs had it and my son a few weeks ago. No brainer.

You do know it’s not just protective against cervical cancer don’t you? It’s also against many head and neck cancers which are triggered by HPV. Trust me, I wouldn’t wish any cancer, let alone a head and neck one on my worst enemy

My dd did not have it for medical reasons. We really had a hard time deciding what to do for the best and in the end her health was so fragile we thought we would leave it and hope herd immunity protects her.
She had all her other vaccinations but at the time this was due was very unwell and it just wasn’t the right choice for her