Is anyone a whiz at working out NHS annual leave entitlement?

[SusieBugandMe]

I’m sure my manager has got it wrong but she won’t hear different.

I work 23.5 hrs a week over 4 days. Standard NHS allowance plus bank holidays. What do you work it out to be?

[Mumski45]

It sounds like your manager is saying you have 111.5 including bank hols which is definitely wrong. I have tried to find a logic to get to 111.5 so you can point out where it is wrong but I can't sorry 😐

[BarbaraofSeville]

164.5 hours per year is correct as it's pro-ratad from what you would get if you worked FT including BHs.

You use your normal amount of hours worked per day to take a day off when you would have normally worked, including BHs.

You don't need to use any of your hours for BHs that have fallen on a Friday because you don't normally work on that day - there have been 3 or 4 BHs on a Friday in this leave year - can't remember if Good Friday was in March or April this year, but the VE day, Christmas and NY Day were all Fridays, this could be where your manager has gone wrong, or else she's unable to follow simple instructions and do simple maths - it's not difficult or complicated really.

We're on a similar system and everyone's hours are worked out annually because we have various combinations of full time, part time, compressed hours, short days x 5 days pw or short weeks of standard days and even other patterns like 34 hours over 4 days, so it makes it easier for everyone.

[BarbaraofSeville]

If you can't get your manager to agree, you should ask HR or look for the policy.

All ours are done by a member of the admin team, but there's also a policy with a number of worked examples to follow.

[FippertyGibbett]

It should be written in your contract.

[MangoBiscuit]

I also make it 164.5 hrs per year, including bank holidays.

As others have said, if you normally work a BH day, that comes off your annual leave. If it's a Friday, and you don't normally work it, it is simply a non-working day, and has no impact on your AL entitlement.

[MangoBiscuit]

Just in case your boss has based her calculations on the wrong hours, your hours are 0.63FTE (full time equivalent). To only get 118 annual leave hours, you would need to be on a 0.45 FTE, so 17 hours a week.

[madamy]

Also, check on your intranet for an annual leave calculator. Ours has one and it's perfect for part time, part years etc.

[SusieBugandMe]

I have emailed her (well I emailed at 1am!)

I included all the working out and asked how she had managed to get to 111.5 because it made no sense to me. Awaiting reply....!

Thank you all