ADs may have buggered boilers but we haven't got the clap

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The saga continues to continue with more sequels than a trilogy of trilogies...

Will be crossing fingers for good news @Jourdain11

this is a very helpful Twitter thread on outdoor transmission risks - a useful counterpoint to all the ‘killer jogger’ posts around at the moment ..

Damn those people trying to get healthy. Who do they think they are?!

Does anyone know of a good online garden centre? I am trying to avoid Amazon as much as I can.

Good luck @Jourdain11 - keeping everything crossed for you

Friend posted on FB last night - her 6 year old keeps crying and asking if she didn't wash her hands enough and that's why school closed. Her child washed their hands till they were red raw.

I've just bawled my eyes out - song came on that I haven't heard for months - last time I listened to it I was walking down one of my favourite streets on the way to uni campus, it was toward the end of when the Christmas/Diwali lights were still up, just after 8 in the morning so they were still on - and I was about to wander in to the cafe, grab a coffee and a chat with the staff on the counter and then go and sit somewhere and catch up with the news and do some work for an hour or so before lectures began.

God I miss that - I even miss my horrendously early train journey, waking up with a cup of coffee as the train went through frosty fields and watching the world wake up - I kind of love watching cities wake up.

All that will happen is that families will split up and go in at separate times, or stand separately in the queue.

Some of us have lots of practice already buying Echo Falls for our teens!

Are they looking at how some are more genetically predisposed to this than others?

Yes, I saw some research that if you died young of an infection you were more likely to have a parent who'd died young of an infection.

And good luck Jourdain

@CoffeeWithCheese, what did your friend respond? That poor little girl.

Jourdain, that's really funny about your DD!
Just got to vent and there's nowhere else to do it, so sorry. People are so utterly fucking thick. All wailing on about 'flouting' and 'bubbles' and 'this isn't lockdown', and as for that stupid facebook thing mentioned upthread (Loki) what a bunch of absolute fucking idiots. Who do they think is going to pay the tax to keep them in their little sanitised cocoons of madness. There are 1.5 million employees in the NHS ffs, out of around 30 million working people, many of whom will be paying less tax now anyway because of...ooh I don't know...not being allowed to do their jobs and make a living.
I so want to suggest to them all the perfect solution to Covid, if they're really that worried about it, which short-term is to lockdown totally - no food, no utilities, no hospitals, no anything at all - until total social breakdown kills most of us; and long-term is to totally upend the global capitalist economic model whilst at the same time halving (at least) the population (perhaps through a kind of Hunger Games?). Shall I go "over there" and suggest that people should volunteer themselves for either or both of these solutions? You know, seeing as they care so very very much about Covid, and really not at all about absolutely anything else.

[quote ISaySteadyOn]@CoffeeWithCheese, what did your friend respond? That poor little girl.[/quote]
Friend could have a school place if she wanted as they meet various criteria - but she's been scared witless again by the media so they're just cuddling and reassuring and hoping it all goes away I think.

Needs be I'll fuck the laws off and have the child up here for a few hours as she gets on really well with DD2 (they're very similar little characters).

@thefallthroughtheair Go for it. We'll all watch from over here

Ten past eleven and I've screamed at my kids three times today. Kill me now.

Taking them to Aldi to murder grannies. Need to leave the house.

thenightsky - lol!
A microcosm of the whole problem with SM: I come on here occasionally and vent my spleen as a way of trying to hang on to sanity, but without upsetting the frothers, because I'm actually (despite the increasingly insane venting) a quite normal person who cares about other people's feelings and can weigh up different sides of an argument without throwing my toys out of the pram.
The frothers on the other hand are offensive, self-absorbed, selfish, thoughtless, judgmental and so they get to spout their crap all over the bloody internet and get applauded for it.
So the frothers win the argument because those of us who haven't lost all reason just don't take the fight to them enough.
There's a very sweet thread out there though with a bit of positivity on it and people basically being nice and supportive to each other. So that's a small extra beacon of hope.

Good luck @Jourdain11!

I’m struggling today with whether to get the children to do some schoolwork just to give them some structure or focus, or leave them be to lie on the kitchen floor doing Hama beads and watching TV (as they’re doing now). When my dad died I sent them straight to school as I was in shock and went onto autopilot, and I still feel bad about it 2 years later. But at the same time I’m worried that if we leave it too long they’ll struggle to get back into it.

@thefallthroughtheair

Jourdain, that's really funny about your DD! Just got to vent and there's nowhere else to do it, so sorry. People are so utterly fucking thick. All wailing on about 'flouting' and 'bubbles' and 'this isn't lockdown', and as for that stupid facebook thing mentioned upthread (Loki) what a bunch of absolute fucking idiots. Who do they think is going to pay the tax to keep them in their little sanitised cocoons of madness. There are 1.5 million employees in the NHS ffs, out of around 30 million working people, many of whom will be paying less tax now anyway because of...ooh I don't know...not being allowed to do their jobs and make a living. I so want to suggest to them all the perfect solution to Covid, if they're really that worried about it, which short-term is to lockdown totally - no food, no utilities, no hospitals, no anything at all - until total social breakdown kills most of us; and long-term is to totally upend the global capitalist economic model whilst at the same time halving (at least) the population (perhaps through a kind of Hunger Games?). Shall I go "over there" and suggest that people should volunteer themselves for either or both of these solutions? You know, seeing as they care so very very much about Covid, and really not at all about absolutely anything else.

Well said. Lunacy.

@Mrsfrumble

Good luck *@Jourdain11*!

I’m struggling today with whether to get the children to do some schoolwork just to give them some structure or focus, or leave them be to lie on the kitchen floor doing Hama beads and watching TV (as they’re doing now). When my dad died I sent them straight to school as I was in shock and went onto autopilot, and I still feel bad about it 2 years later. But at the same time I’m worried that if we leave it too long they’ll struggle to get back into it.

I went back to school 2 days after my dad died, and the normality was helpful. (I was 11)

DS1 might be late to his lessons. Currently at the playground for some much-needed daylight. It's come at the cost of English but hey ho.

@Jourdain11 good luck for tomorrow.
I'm not too good at the moment, got horrendous sciatica, never had it before and am waiting for physio. Walking and standing up helps, so I've been into work and standing up all shift, makes a huge difference (until I lie down!).
Did anyone hear Jeremy Vine today, talking about masks in supermarkets? When will people realize that if someone isn't wearing a mask, it's because of two reasons. 1- there's a medical/lawful reason. 2- you're an arsehole. Ain't no one got an answer as to how to tell the difference! I'm buggered if I'm gonna question anyone, as I've had enough abuse from people when I ask them to stand in the right place and not lean round my screen. Two more shifts and I've got some time off, hopefully I can get through it without calling a customer a fuckwit, come close a few times.
And sending hugs to the lady whose FIL died, sorry I can't remember her name. My FIL died before all of this, we're really glad as he couldn't have coped with all this and no family visits.
Flowers and hugs to everyone.

@Jourdain11 good luck, try not to worry too much.

Off to consultant now who I pray will know what the hell is wrong with my gut. So tired of having to stay near a loo at all times.

Good luck for the medical things

Irony re boilers in the title

I don't know if this will help distract anyone but I am having a half hearted dilemma

There's an odd couple who live opposite me

I think they are a bit mad - that's based on about 8 years experience

It's bloody freezing and they asked me to help them with their thermostat settings a while ago

They specifically said "settings", so I thought it was a timing/temperature thing but they also said the boiler engineer and other neighbours couldn't fix it.

I said no, because they are always trying it on for people to do favours, - like cleaning - but also if the boiler engineer can't fix it, how can I?! I don't want to break anything.

Today I was getting my post and heard from other neighbours that they have no heating at all.

But, they have also pissed off the people who were doing their shopping and now have one of those official volunteers doing it for them.

There's no point trying to help is there? They are probably batshit and quite likely refuse to accept they need a new boiler.

I do think they might have had some issues in the past as they are in their sixties, and sold a house to live here. Maybe they went bankrupt.

If the engineer couldn't fix the boiler, there's no way I can, right? I don't like to think of them sitting in the cold but it's also possible they are doing this for attention - saying it's completely broken to get neighbours round and chatting.

Lots of rubbish in this recent article from the BBC: "fines increasingly likely". Ah, well, the bright side is that it might pay down some of the massive national debt.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55627864

There's no way the pictured mounted police are 2m apart (stock photo, anyway?).

People have a "duty to make this lockdown the last one". Oh, so we the plebs have control of this, do we?

We can start to move through the "gears of tiers" (fuck off!) from mid February. Does Saint Boris know which direction? Did somebody tell him?

"Saint Boris's bike ride doesn't help 'stay at home' message". Nice to see the clown getting a smidgeon of comeback. Perhaps the BBC is not totally under his puppet strings after all.

Arghh I hate the mis reading and repeating of information that is not the whole story!
Cressida dick cited as saying exercise should begin and end at your front door - but what seems to be missed on threads and in media is that she went on to say something along the lines of but if you need to get in car to safely walk your dog a few miles away that’s not unreasonable

I'm a bit meh about BJ's bike ride though - 7 miles on a bike for exercise is really nothing. My DH does a 30 mile loop for his exercise.

DS really struggling with online learning today and has just, for good measure, really badly twisted his ankle on the trampoline 2 minutes before he was due to be back online. I feel like this is going to be a very long six weeks and if they extend it beyond then I don't know how we'll cope. DD doing OK but then she normally does, plus her friend is our childcare bubble so she is doing school work here today which makes life a bit easier but feels very unfair on DS. He has not kept up with friends well at all, which I don't think helps the situation.

@LivinLaVidaLoki - sorry I was out at work all day yesterday and didn't catch up with the whole thread. How is your brother doing?

I am the last person who would give Boris Johnson the benefit of the doubt on anything but travelling 7 miles for a bike ride is not even a grey area is it? Why are people so focussed on things that are so unlikely to make any bloody difference to spreading Covid??

I went to m and s this morning and brought some daffodils and essential food. The elderly gentleman in front of me brought 3 bunches and a newspaper. He drew my attention to them and
I thought they would brighten up the house.

My children are still in their pyjamas. I will bath them tonight and put clean ones on. Dd says she can't be bothered to go out today.

@rosettesforjill

I am the last person who would give Boris Johnson the benefit of the doubt on anything but travelling 7 miles for a bike ride is not even a grey area is it? Why are people so focussed on things that are so unlikely to make any bloody difference to spreading Covid??

It's not

However, if the story reported by the Standard is true, that Johnson was annoyed about how busy the park was, that's appalling.

Mrsfrumble my Dcs just lost their grandfather is it the same for you? (read about your FIL, it is my FIL too) mine are Ok so far, a bit quiet. They are doing some online school today. Think we will have the funeral soon so will be time off for that. They have just lost another young relative as well none of this covid..