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Derbyshire Police Patrolling National Trust Sites

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DecemberSun · 08/01/2021 10:39

I find it hard to believe that they can justify this amount of manpower stopping National Trust places from receiving visitors. Surely they have better things to do with their time. They were at 2 sites yesterday.

Derbyshire Police Patrolling National Trust Sites
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JacobReesMogadishu · 08/01/2021 14:22

I can’t believe the National Trust have opened and then asked the police to come and fine everyone who turns up. Most National trust places are quite isolate and very few people live within a mile or two of a property.

Swadlincote police have also deleted that tweet now.

Kokeshi123 · 08/01/2021 14:26

If you can't easily walk there what will you do if you break down? Who has to come in contact with you then who wouldn't have otherwise.

Erm.... a mechanic would fix the car while I waited inside. It's about as low risk an incident as I can think of. Do get a grip.

Maybe we should all suspend ourselves in isolation tanks for the foreseeable.

WeAreShiningStars · 08/01/2021 14:29

They're picking on easy targets who aren't actually breaking any laws.

Wankers abusing their power.

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averylongtimeago · 08/01/2021 14:36

Cant see the problem with driving to your nearest open space - not everyone lives near to a big park or open country. NT places limit numbers and you have to book in advance.

But just heading off for a jolly to "somewhere different", no.
Family live in Eyam in the Peak District and it's been rammed- the village has narrow footpaths so difficult to distance, nothing is open only the local shops. Visitors are just miling about, some may go for a bit of a stroll but most don't seem to. Lots of good places to walk on that side of Sheffield without seeing lots of people or travelling miles.

CaptainMyCaptain · 08/01/2021 14:48

@Mintjulia

I support their actions. If it isn't local, don't go.

Plus the peaks are difficult at the moment. Slips, falls, breakdowns that they just don't need.

How hard is it to stay at home?

Calke Abbey isn't in the Peak District.
CaptainMyCaptain · 08/01/2021 14:50

Neither is the reservoir the two women were at.

Ihatemyseleffordoingthis · 08/01/2021 14:51

They are collateral damage to Police clumsily trying to get the message out to stay at home. The collective outrage is part of the comms plan.

Picture in OP is same thing - photo opp to attempt to scare people into moderating their behaviour.

CaptainMyCaptain · 08/01/2021 14:55

@Roystonv

Do we know why they are there i.e. have they been asked to attend by landowner, are they making a point - as someone said photo op or, are they genuinely needed - people kicking off/abusive. I cannot believe the first two are a valid use of police time in these awful times with rising crime, reduced funding etc.
They were at Calke Abbey, a National Trust property which was open. Why would the landowners call the police?
Dugee · 08/01/2021 16:14

@DecemberSun

Derbyshire Police seem very heavy handed. They took drone pictures of a couple of dog walkers (miles away from anyone else) in the peaks last time. Then published them in the press. This backfired on them though as Lord Sumption then wrote an article in the press, publicly reminding the police that their job is to uphold laws, not make up their own laws as they go along.

TheSmallClangerWhistlesAgain · 08/01/2021 16:52

The dog walkers weren't breaking any laws and probably didn't even live for away.

wanderings · 08/01/2021 18:41

Perhaps Derbyshire police have made a deal with the government, so they are paid extra to "make examples of people". This incident has the fingerprints of Saint Boris's merry men all over it.

itsgettingweird · 08/01/2021 19:00

@PattyPan

The grounds of heritage properties are allowed to stay open so what are they supposed to be stopping people from doing? Confused
Exactly what I thought!
DenisetheMenace · 08/01/2021 20:12

LooseMooseHoose

Is there any official guidance about what "stay local" means?”

We’ve interpreted as within comfortable walking distance from hone.
Would make exceptions, obviously, for disabled people or elderly who need to drive to reach somewhere quiet where they can safely get fresh air.

nildesparandum · 08/01/2021 20:44

My son drives all over the country in his job (delivering NHS supplies) he says the roads are choked with cars as normal.

SpreadeagledSquire · 08/01/2021 22:16

That’s strange @nildesparandum as I have had several courier deliveries recently and all of them said that it’s really quiet compared to normal.

Gross over-reaching policing with all these crazy fines - I can’t believe this is happening; it’s terrifying.

HecouldLickEm · 08/01/2021 22:37

national trust property are booking only -I have been to several since lock down last year and they are virtually empty - hardly anyone at them - a very useful space to go and be safe in.

It is truly nonsensical to pressure them to close and coral us all in smaller areas.

Lexilooo · 08/01/2021 22:54

National trust sites are also wheelchair accessible and have accessible facilities. Many local areas are a bloody nightmare for wheelchairs.

PheasantFarts · 09/01/2021 06:45

@Mintjulia

I support their actions. If it isn't local, don't go.

Plus the peaks are difficult at the moment. Slips, falls, breakdowns that they just don't need.

How hard is it to stay at home?

These sites are in south Derbyshire, nowhere near the Peaks. The weather and topography is completely different here.
Roystonv · 09/01/2021 08:07

Mycaptain, I meant did Calke Abbey staff need guidance on what was permitted and the police visited for this reason.

eurochick · 09/01/2021 08:25

@BornInAThunderstorm looks like someone has had their knuckles rapped. That's about as close as the police come to eating humble pie. And the last para indicates that the fines issued for breaking made up laws should be quashed.

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2021 09:09

@Roystonv

Mycaptain, I meant did Calke Abbey staff need guidance on what was permitted and the police visited for this reason.
Since the first lockdown you have had to book in advance to park at a NT site so the Calke Abbey staff would know exactly how many people were coming. Back in the first lockdown I went to Hardwick Hall (a 10 minute drive from me for a 2 hour walk) to walk in the large park (hardly passed a single person), the admissions were very limited and timed slots were given.
HecouldLickEm · 09/01/2021 09:16

And esp in main areas nt are dog free.

Ex chief of police on banc said they are rowing back and will review the fines

HecouldLickEm · 09/01/2021 09:18

Captain my captain, I love Hardwick Hall.
My experience of a few sites around me has been that the numbers allowed in are very low and its very easy to sd.. They are an assets to the pandemic, not a threat

Dinocan · 09/01/2021 09:24

Absolutely ridiculous. Typical of the police to go all out completely unnecessarily. Near us there is a local beauty spot that is notorious for car break ins and theft. Same gang do their daily rounds and they know exactly who it is. Been a problem for years and there’s nothing ever done. Ive never ever seen a police patrol there in all the years I’ve been going up there (10). Come the last lockdown it was crawling with POs leaving leaflets on cars, questioning people about where they live. I wish they cared so much about preventing actual crimes.