If you're vegetarian are you bothered by any of these?

[Knitwit99]

I don't eat meat but I do eat animal in other things so I don't count myself as vegetarian. If I can easily avoid meat I do, I would pick the veggie Percy Pigs if they were right beside the gelatine ones, but if someone offered me a Percy Pig I would just eat it without bothering to check. That tiny amount of gelatine would not bother me at all.

DS14 is vegetarian and the opposite extreme.

If you consider yourself to be vegetarian do you eat-

Non-vegetarian marshmallows and sweets containing gelatine

Chips from the chip shop cooked in beef fat

Deep fried food eg mozzarella sticks that are fried in the same vegetable oil as meat products like chicken nuggets

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie

A veggie pie that has been cooked in the oven underneath a meat pie on a metal baking tray

A veggie pie that has been anywhere in the same oven as a meat pie

A veggie pie that has been carried home in the same shopping bag as a meat pie (each pie cold and wrapped in a separate paper bag)

I've had mixed responses from people irl. One lifelong vegetarian said he doesn't care if a chip shop cooks its chips in beef fat or not because any animal dna has been fried into oblivion. I was really surprised by that.

Another who used to have a massive bag of haribo in her drawer at work, she figured the animals were dead anyway so she might as well save their gelatine from going to waste.

DS will absolutely not eat anything with any animal by-product in and ties himself in knots trying to avoid any meat being anywhere near his veg. Eating out is difficult because he can't be sure his vegetarian food hasn't been cooked right beside meat.

To my mind a small splash of animal fat on my food is not going to matter but I guess to him it really matters. I'm curious about where other people are on the spectrum.

This is not about me trying to persuade him to think differently, I'm just genuinely curious. I do also think he gives himself a whole lot more stress than he needs to but maybe not. I respect his choices (mostly, I think the chances of meat juice dripping through a solid metal tray onto his food are pretty low and don't have much patience with that one)

I don't eat gelatine or wear leather, use different utensils for cooking and put meat on the bottom of the oven etc.

BUT I am flexible on occasion. Eg. relative bought me vegetarian food and then accidentally used same utensils right in front of me. They made an effort for me and I wouldn't make a fuss over it when their intentions were good (and they don't usually cook for me or other veggie so not an ongoing issue!)

If you are hyper vigilant about these things you would never eat out anywhere.

DS is veggie and if I'm cooking eg a pie or sausages, and don't have room in the oven for separate trays, I will build a dam of foil to separate his from ours, which seems to be sufficient.

He's also ok with things like Worcester sauce which has a tiny amount of anchovy in it, or Thai curry sauce, as his objection to meat eating is mainly along the lines of taste.

He has a vegan/vet GF who is more concerned with the animal side of things, so he often ends up eating vegan too. They will both choose vegan sweets, as gelatin isn't just an animal product like dairy etc, its from an actual animal carcass. He does however have leather seats in his car, so....!

I'm a lapsed vegetarian but I wasn't particularly strict. Wouldn't have eaten gelatine, but if I someone was cooking for me I wouldn't insist on separate utensils or anything. So, I'd be pretty strict when buying or preparing food for myself but I would be as accommodating as I could be when it came to other people's hospitality. I never wanted to be the person people dreaded inviting over for dinner!

Pretty much the same as @TheSpottedZebra for me. Although if I'm at a friend's house and they've cooked for me I probably wouldn't question things too closely. I know they'll have done their best.

My situation's a little different because I'm vegetarian but only take beef very strictly i.e. I won't eat anything cooked with the same utensil or in the same pan/baking tray as a beef product where there would be any contamination (generally I'm fine using the same stuff though since it gets washed). Having said that I've definitely taken medicine etc. where the capsule has contained beef gelatine.

Other than that I don't eat gelatine or things cooked in animal fat knowingly though I definitely have done accidentally, and the rest of the in the bag with/cooked on same tray as things don't bother me for other meats.

And like others have said I use the same utensils/trays, but would wash them between them touching meat and stirring his food.

I'm pescatarian. I don't eat meat but am not bothered about whether a particular cheese is vegetarian and so on, and cook my vegetable sausages on the same tray as the meaty ones. I don't eat gelatine because it's vile. Mine is more a dietary thing, meat didn't seem to suit me any more, especially red meat and processed meat which always seemed to upset my stomach. I'm also half a stone lighter since I stopped eating meat entirely, as it makes me think about what I'm eating more.

Just asked SIL who is a vegetarian. She would choose the veggie Percy pigs, eat a veggie pie in the same oven as a meat, even if there was spillage. She wouldn't eat chips in beef oil but would eat food cooked in same oil as meat ('it's not like I'd accidentally ingest half a chicken'). She's had non-veggie gravy poured over a veggie dinner as a guest before and still ate it.

Essentially, she won't waste food and is sensible about how her consuming oil that meat is not the same as eating a live sheep. Her kids eat veggie at home but if they ask for meat in a restaurant/as guests or want to eat it at school she supports that.

I don't eat meat itself but I don't describe myself as pescetarian (do eat fish) or vegetarian because I'm not super careful about some things. I do try and avoid beef and pork gelatine because it gives me the heebie jeebies to think about it (it's in strawberry/ chocolate mousse FFS!), and I avoid things like crisps, snacks, gravies in supermarkets that aren't clearly labelled as suitable for veggies (so we only use veg oxo cubes etc), but I've never asked our chip shop about their cooking methods, I suspect their lovely gravy probably contains something meat based tho! And I eat parmesan which I don't think you're supposed to.

When I have an actual vegetarian friend to stay though (when it's allowed!) I do use different utensils, pans and trays if I'm cooking meat alongside though.

There are no gelatine Percy pigs now.

I don’t eat gelatine or things cooked in beef fat

I would eat something vegetarian cooked the the same oven or carried in the same bag as meat as long as it hadn’t become contaminated.

I'm not sure asking here will help as I think it will reflect the conversations you've had IRL, but I'm happy to answer (vegetarian 30 years)

Non-vegetarian marshmallows and sweets containing gelatine. No. Never.

Chips from the chip shop cooked in beef fat
No. I always ask before ordering

Deep fried food eg mozzarella sticks that are fried in the same vegetable oil as meat products like chicken nuggets

No I always check they're cooked separately

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie
Wouldn't be my preference, but I would If they're not touching.

A veggie pie that has been cooked in the oven underneath a meat pie on a metal baking tray

Again, not my choice and I'd put them the other way around if I was cooking, but as long as the meat pie isn't dripping off the tray on to mine, then I'd eat it.

A veggie pie that has been anywhere in the same oven as a meat pie

As above. I don't like it, but over the years have stopped being so worried about things like this. Your DS is young and naturally sees things more black & white maybe.

A veggie pie that has been carried home in the same shopping bag as a meat pie (each pie cold and wrapped in a separate paper bag)

See above. Though, if I was shopping I'd out any meat products together in a separate bag. Easy enough to do & makes me happier but I don't expect others to do the same.

It must be difficult for you, but it's difficult for him too. Life as a teenager isn't easy, especially as you can have strong options but little control. Especially right now.

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie

I was working on the sssumption that all the pies were in individual foil cases/dishes. If 'in the raw' then no to same tray, no to cooked above

DS 22 has been veggie for four years.
No to anything with gelatine in. Rules out lots of sweets and desserts.
No to chip shops that fry in lard. He had to stop using his favourite chip shop at uni.
No to fast food shops that cook veggie burgers on the same griddle but no issues with meat cooked in a pan next to veg.
At home I am very careful to use different utensils for meat / none meat. He will happily eat veg pie that is cooked next to meat pie.

Been vegetarian for decades. I avoid anything animal related if I’m buying for myself, but am a bit more relaxed if someone else is cooking for me. For me the bottom line is whether my dinner is actively contributing to animals being killed or not.
So, I’m reasonably relaxed about gelatine (as far as I know it’s a waste product, and not something animals specifically get killed for).

I don’t mind if my dinner is cooked next to something with meat in it either. But I’m absolutely not relaxed about anything meat related making it into my dinner (e.g. meat juices dripping on my food, or chips cooked in animal fat). I’m not entirely sure why, as neither is actively contributing to animals getting killed, so according to my own “bottom line”, I should be ok about it. It just really grosses me out though, in quite an irrational way 😂

Non-vegetarian marshmallows and sweets containing gelatine :Nope, no way (I miss fruit pastilles, but have avoided them for 32 years!)

Chips from the chip shop cooked in beef fat: No, never.

Deep fried food eg mozzarella sticks that are fried in the same vegetable oil as meat products like chicken nuggets : Nope

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie: No

A veggie pie that has been cooked in the oven underneath a meat pie on a metal baking tray: No

A veggie pie that has been anywhere in the same oven as a meat pie: Not at the same time, but okay at separate times.

A veggie pie that has been carried home in the same shopping bag as a meat pie (each pie cold and wrapped in a separate paper bag): No

I've had mixed responses from people irl. One lifelong vegetarian said he doesn't care if a chip shop cooks its chips in beef fat or not because any animal dna has been fried into oblivion. I was really surprised by that. : I find that odd too, as I wouldn’t want to consume the animal fat...however I am quite the hypocrite as I wear leather shoes.

Another who used to have a massive bag of haribo in her drawer at work, she figured the animals were dead anyway so she might as well save their gelatine : My children are this type of veggie, but they didn’t chose to be veggie, they were raised Veggie. A very different situation I think, as I chose to be veggie, they didn’t.

DS will absolutely not eat anything with any animal by-product in and ties himself in knots trying to avoid any meat being anywhere near his veg. Eating out is difficult because he can't be sure his vegetarian food hasn't been cooked right beside meat : I am like this, but less stressed as I trust restaurants to cook food respecting the vegetarian option. I was 14 when I turned veggie, and couldn’t even stomach fake meat. Go with the flow, be kind and know that he will move out or be in charge of his own food in a few years.

To my mind a small splash of animal fat on my food is not going to matter but I guess to him it really matters. I'm curious about where other people are on the spectrum: This matters to me too.

I thought that I was quite a chilled out veggie, but I guess that my conviction is just as strong now as ever, however I no longer judge anyone else’s decision to eat meat or not.

Non-vegetarian marshmallows and sweets containing gelatine - no.

Chips from the chip shop cooked in beef fat - no.

Deep fried food eg mozzarella sticks that are fried in the same vegetable oil as meat products like chicken nuggets - ideally not.

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie - yes.

A veggie pie that has been cooked in the oven underneath a meat pie on a metal baking tray - yes.

A veggie pie that has been anywhere in the same oven as a meat pie -yes.

A veggie pie that has been carried home in the same shopping bag as a meat pie (each pie cold and wrapped in a separate paper bag) - yes.

It's interesting there are so many variations, I guess some it is based on why people are vegetarian. I've been vegetarian most of my life and I don't eat marshmallows/gelatine, rennet (cheese), isinglass and other animals extracts in alcohol (can be a pain to find this out so I stick to brands I know), wouldn't eat things cooked in animal fat or the same pan or tray as meat but same oven is fine. I find it's the non-food products that can be harder, I have found animals products in toothpastes, face cream, hair products etc, particularly when vegan (not currently) and avoiding dairy, honey and beeswax too. That's without making sure things are not tested on animals. Saying all that if I eat or use something accidentally or there's a trace of something in a gift I don't make a big deal of it, my aim is to live as ethically as I can and every bit helps. I used to avoid wool and leather when I was younger but I do now but them 2nd hand as I prefer natural materials.

@Afonavon Off topic but fruit pastilles are vegan now :)

I would eat the pie carried in the same bag as the meat pie and cooked on the same tray as long as it didn't stink and leak juices, but everything else would be a no

Vegan here .

Non-vegetarian marshmallows and sweets containing gelatine

Nope.

Chips from the chip shop cooked in beef fat

Nope.

Deep fried food eg mozzarella sticks that are fried in the same vegetable oil as meat products like chicken nuggets

Weirdly I am not bothered by this. To me it is no different to eating an Oreo which says may contain milk.

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie

Sure.

A veggie pie that has been cooked in the oven underneath a meat pie on a metal baking tray

Yeah that's fine.

A veggie pie that has been anywhere in the same oven as a meat pie

I would say that's definitely fine.

A veggie pie that has been carried home in the same shopping bag as a meat pie (each pie cold and wrapped in a separate paper bag)

Sure. Not sure why this wouldn't be okay tbh.

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No absolutely not - no cross contamination in our house. I wouldn't even touch wine with isinglass etc.

If you consider yourself to be vegetarian do you eat-

Non-vegetarian marshmallows and sweets containing gelatine No

Chips from the chip shop cooked in beef fat No

Deep fried food eg mozzarella sticks that are fried in the same vegetable oil as meat products like chicken nuggets No

A veggie pie cooked on the same tray as a meat pie Use separate trays for meat and vegetarian thing (DP eats meat)

A veggie pie that has been cooked in the oven underneath a meat pie on a metal baking tray We always put meat things on the bottom shelf and veggie things on the top and use separate utensils

A veggie pie that has been anywhere in the same oven as a meat pie Same as above

I wouldn't have eaten any of those things when I was vegetarian.

I suppose it depends on why you are veggie, really - if it's because you don't want to eat animal products then why would you eat chips cooked in beef fat? Makes no sense.

Good to know about the fruit particles. Most M&S jelly sweets are veggie and they do vegan marshmallows. I quite like the cola Colin the Caterpillars myself. They also do some fruit pastilles/jellies which are really good flavours and they even have raspberry and grapefruit ones.