Wuhan Wet Market Accountability

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I know this is a stupid question, which is why I can't ask anyone irl!

Why hasn't the wet market in Wuhan been held accountable for this pandemic? Why is it allowed to operate as it always has?

Listen carefully to your friend OP. She knows what she's talking about. She's a biology teacher.

Isn't it more to do with the farming industry disturbing bat sites in remote places that have caused bats to become more stressed and "shedding"? So the Wuhan market was the catalyst but not the source?

The wet market? Do you mean small stall owners? Buyers? Delivery drivers?

China for trying to keep it quiet, I suppose.

But the West's screwed up response is only China's fault if you want to make a case about public opinion and troll farms. A lot of this is simply because of us/our politicians...

Because half the world depends on either chinas money or thinks its 'racist' for holding China to account for their government's negligent and disgusting behaviour, and the other half of the world is China.

American soldiers my fucking arse. What a huge coincidence.

When talking about accountability for a global pandemic, I think you need to consider spread as well as origin. Wherever a pandemic originates, our increasingly globalised world is largely responsible for the spread of it. We like to have things from other countries, like cheap things made overseas, like to travel for business and pleasure, like to eat out of season foods all year round, want the choice of living in a country different to where we were born. We can't even change some of these things on a personal level, even if we want to because globalisation is so endemic to modern society. I don't think it is any one place who is responsible for this pandemic, it is a perfect storm of origin and spread.

Lorianmando basically keeping (often live and wild) animals and humans together in poor conditions like these markets with species mixing, their shit and piss and blood and fluids everywhere and them being locked very close together in spaces and eaten often without proper cooking and terrible food hygeine standards is an absolute dream for disease spread.

I dont think that was the case here DaughterOfEvilReindeer but you're right its a big worry. Lots of suggestions thats where Ebola came from last time. There are these diseases we've possibly never encountered hidden away in deepest darkest areas of rainforests in bat shit. As we tear up more of the jungle and flush these bats out, we flush out what comes with them.

The date this article was posted is very spooky

www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/11/deforestation-leading-to-more-infectious-diseases-in-humans/

The wet market closed in January 2020, OP.

@BlusteryLake

When talking about accountability for a global pandemic, I think you need to consider spread as well as origin. Wherever a pandemic originates, our increasingly globalised world is largely responsible for the spread of it. We like to have things from other countries, like cheap things made overseas, like to travel for business and pleasure, like to eat out of season foods all year round, want the choice of living in a country different to where we were born. We can't even change some of these things on a personal level, even if we want to because globalisation is so endemic to modern society. I don't think it is any one place who is responsible for this pandemic, it is a perfect storm of origin and spread.

Exactly my thoughts too blustery. By the time anyone spots a new virus, it’s going to have already spread around the world.

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Because the powers at be know it didn’t start there

Where did it start then?

Think I put that right back on page one

You know no one knows right?

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I know this is a stupid question, which is why I can't ask anyone irl!

Why hasn't the wet market in Wuhan been held accountable for this pandemic? Why is it allowed to operate as it always has?

I don't suppose the not-quite-oven-ready-bat stallholder's insurance would cover 'being allegedly the origin of the cross species jump of the latest novel Coronavirus in the eyes of a US president who exhibits considerably larger quantities of batshittery than the produce'.

I have eaten bat several times. It's not that uncommon in lots of places round Asia, the Indian Ocean and the Pacific, often served as flying fox or fruit bat curry.

I have no evidence for this, but as an outsider it would appear to me that the wet market theory was actually very helpful for the Chinese government. Pushing the blame onto ordinary citizens and wet markets, sort of absolved them of responsibility for slow reactions when cases had been circulating for some time. “Wet markets” are typically frequented by the equivalent of the British working class/the less affluent so...

You can see similar politics here in the UK. Govt blame the populace for the pandemic spiralling, and will undoubtedly point to Christmas gatherings in the NY, hugging granny blah blah blah. Very handy way to distract from conversation about why they didn’t stop travel, get on top of test and trace, chronic nhs underfunding, school planning failures etc etc.

I don’t say it came from a lab, or was a deliberate release, but I do think that there has been catastrophic mismanagement of the pandemic by China, the UK, the US and others and there is a pattern of blaming the proletariat in every case.

I thought it came from bats in a mine shafts, and infected miners who then took it elsewhere?

And then they reopened when the heat had died down, Wrongsideof.

Should British farmers be held accountable for Mad Cow Disease?

All pandemics start in animals, including HIV, bird flu, etc. If we didn’t eat them, hunt them or trade them, then we wouldn’t have these pandemics.

There was wholesale slaughter of herds
Other countries placed a ban on sales of UK beef for a long while after. And the practices that led to it were changed.

There were a lot of repercussions for the UK meat sector

You don’t sound particularly educated OP. The opinion of someone with a masters that doesn’t work in said field is irrelevant. It’s likely that their rudimentary research isn’t up to date any more either.

Even if this originated in wet markets, how do you expect the people there to be held accountable, what are the punishments? To what extent should they be held accountable? It’s not their fault China and other countries mishandled their response to the virus and allowed the situation to get as dire as it did, so how can the wet market staff be additionally punished for that?

The problem is these wet markets operate as underground, black markets so it’s difficult for them to be eradicated. It’s the same way drugs, gangs, slavery, human trafficking etc etc isn’t completely non-existent in England although illegal.

Yes there's no way a country can keep tabs on its populace and order them to do stuff. It would require too much interference in their civil liberties.