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Why is everyone referring to "Santa"

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WinWinnieTheWay · 08/12/2020 20:30

DH and I (from different UK countries and different social class) were both brought up with Father Christmas. Why are so many people calling FC "Santa" these days? Is it just the impact of American culture? Each to their own, but I don't like it.

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Cheeseycheeseycheesecheese · 09/12/2020 11:32

Completely interchangeable in my opinion

Crumpydump · 09/12/2020 11:32

We've always said Santa here (Scotland). I remember my Granny referring to Santa and she was born in the 1890s.... 'Father Christmas" sounds formal and cold to me. Each to their own but I don't like it. Wink

naptimeismyhappytime · 09/12/2020 11:33

My friends family all call him 'Slanty Baws' ..... Londoners living in Scotland so I can't quite get my head round that one!

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RaspberryCoulis · 09/12/2020 11:33

You crack on with calling the big guy "Father Christmas" then, Goldenbear. Literally no-one has said that you shouldn't.

But you can simultaneously preserve your own traditions without pouring scorn on everyone else's.

VanityWitch · 09/12/2020 11:33

@Goldenbear

Vanitywitch, you really are living up to your name, yes, we get it, you are very proud of your heritage

This is what you said. I mean, it's bad enough that you seem entirely incapable of reading my posts, but you could at least read your own.

Graciebobcat · 09/12/2020 11:35

It's easier to type than Father Christmas.

Goldenbear · 09/12/2020 11:37

Talk about take offence where none is intended. I don't even have a true neutral RP accent but I know many people that do. My friends in the Midlands have RP neutral Midlands accents.

VanityWitch · 09/12/2020 11:37

@VanityWitch

I think you have shown excessive pride in referring to him as 'Santa' not your heritage

Hmmmm I think you said heritage. And IF YOU HAD ACTUALLY READ MY POSTS. Ahem, sorry, but really. You would have seen that I sometimes say FC, when my dd does Xmas Smile. So no, I have not got any excessive pride in saying Santa.

This was to you too @Goldenbear, just to make it crystal clear.
midnightstar66 · 09/12/2020 11:37

I know people from all over London and the south due to living in an expat community abroad for a time. The people from Croydon don't have the same accent as those from Kent and everyone I know from North London below a certain age speaks with what I can only describe as a hint of Jamaican patois. They are probably lower class though Smile

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/12/2020 11:38

😂😂 I am really enjoying this thread.

Predicting this will be the next one to end up in the Mail Online. It's a laugh a minute!

VanityWitch · 09/12/2020 11:39

@Goldenbear

Talk about take offence where none is intended. I don't even have a true neutral RP accent but I know many people that do. My friends in the Midlands have RP neutral Midlands accents.
Xmas Confused, you have been personally offensive to me. God knows why. Your problem, not mine, thankfully Xmas Smile.
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/12/2020 11:40

Hot favourites from this end are John the Chimney and Old Nick. Funny that on the 'who delivers what where' map Old Nick's the Cornish present delivery bod, and poor old Lancashire gets no one!

VanityWitch · 09/12/2020 11:41

@Mrsjayy

I'm sure that I read somewhere that the original "Queen's English" accent, used in the time of Elizabeth I, actually sounded more like a modern day Bristol accent than the modern "RP" accent. Probably not all that relevant, but I found it interesting

Alright my lover Grin (apologies to any West Country mumsnetters)

Xmas Grin
Goldenbear · 09/12/2020 11:42

How have I poured scorn on other's traditions? I have defended my position that Father Christmas is not the name used by a bunch of aspirational snobs-like many on this thread are suggesting. It is simply the tradition I like many others have grown up with.

midnightstar66 · 09/12/2020 11:42

My friends family all call him 'Slanty Baws' ..... Londoners living in Scotland so I can't quite get my head round that one!

Baws is a particularly popular word up here Grin. It can also be popular to rhyme words or phrases for humorous purposes, a bit like Cockney rhyming slang. Not that cockney should exist if the south of England is accent free!

RaspberryCoulis · 09/12/2020 11:42

@MarieIVanArkleStinks

Hot favourites from this end are John the Chimney and Old Nick. Funny that on the 'who delivers what where' map Old Nick's the Cornish present delivery bod, and poor old Lancashire gets no one!
In Scotland, Old/Auld Nick is the Devil. You wouldn't want him down your chimney.
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 09/12/2020 11:43

In Scotland, Old/Auld Nick is the Devil. You wouldn't want him down your chimney.

Oh, I don't know ... Wink

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/12/2020 11:44

I wonder what he delivers?

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 09/12/2020 11:44

Or she...

VanityWitch · 09/12/2020 11:44

@Goldenbear

It is simply the tradition I like many others have grown up with.

Funny isn't it...I'm sure I've heard that somewhere before. Who said that a few times on this thread already? Ah yes, me. And for that you called me names. You aren't coming across very well here imho.

RaspberryCoulis · 09/12/2020 11:47

@ThatIsNotMyUsername

I wonder what he delivers?
Tiered restrictions, bans on visiting your nearest and dearest, a tartan face mask and an Alex Salmond cover-up?
CorianderQueen · 09/12/2020 11:47

Yes I was also raised with Father Christmas - American TV and culture I think has introduced Santa.

Chemenger · 09/12/2020 11:48

What is a “neutral accent”? Genuine question.

Accents tend to be judged relative to other accents. So to my rural aberdonian family I speak “pan loaf” Edinburgh. To Edinburgh people I sound aberdonian. To most British people I have a mild generic Scottish accent. To my foreign students I have an impenetrable brogue. When I listen to myself on recordings I am always surprised how Scottish I sound, like a cross between Miss Jean Brodie and Rab C Nisbet.

wellthatsunusual · 09/12/2020 11:48

@Goldenbear

Talk about take offence where none is intended. I don't even have a true neutral RP accent but I know many people that do. My friends in the Midlands have RP neutral Midlands accents.
But you are contradicting yourself. You said people have no accent. Which is just not possible. Then you say that actually they do and it's a neutral accent. But you haven't explained what you mean by a neutral accent.
RaspberryCoulis · 09/12/2020 11:49

@CorianderQueen

Yes I was also raised with Father Christmas - American TV and culture I think has introduced Santa.
Oh dear. Read the thread, then come back and apologise for your ignorance.