So is the 18th an extra day off?

[justgeton]

Just wondering... is this an extra holiday day for teachers?

No it’s an inset day which will come off next year. It’s all there in the guidance. No ‘extra’ holiday for teachers just means heads aren’t actually doing track and trace for pupils on Xmas day.

@starrynight19

No it’s an inset day which will come off next year. It’s all there in the guidance. No ‘extra’ holiday for teachers just means heads aren’t actually doing track and trace for pupils on Xmas day.

Thank you

My teacher dd is working on the 18th

My child’s in school on 18th so no extra time off then.

Do you mean an unpaid day off? Because you do know teachers aren't paid for their holidays, don't you? They only get paid for the same as every other worker, which is 5.6 paid weeks holiday per year. The rest of the time is unpaid.

No-it’s an option for heads to move one of next year’s inset days to next Friday. It’s not compulsory and it’s not an extra day.

I should imagine it will be a mixed response from schools as they may already have plans for their inset days next year so sadly those headteachers will have to suck it up if they have to work Xmas day.

@NovemberR

Do you mean an unpaid day off? Because you do know teachers aren't paid for their holidays, don't you? They only get paid for the same as every other worker, which is 5.6 paid weeks holiday per year. The rest of the time is unpaid.

Yes, perfectly aware

DD's college said last week that the kids were not going to be in on the 18th because the teachers were going to be preparing for online lessons for the first week of term in January. The idea being that there would be a longer gap between the end of college and seeing relatives before Christmas, and seeing relatives and passing germs from them around college after Christmas.

Haha. No. Inset day. AKA tonnes of extra work. Mostly data entry/processing. Fun day for us.

You do know that inset days aren't days off for teachers.. I'm not even a teacher and I know that!

Every school that I know of (my own, my kids', ex colleagues etc) are all working until 3.30 next Friday - and it's usually a half day, to add insult to injury!

Afaik we're in next Friday, and dd1 is at school.

You just making sure those lazy, good for nothing, waste of air teachers aren't getting any kind of perk or reward for pushing on through a pandemic, with no distancing and no PPE and keeping the economy going by allowing parents to work? Workshy b@stards the lot of them.

It’s down to individual schools whether to close to pupils on Friday 18th (ie the pupils’ last day be Thursday 17th). If they do decide to close the staff will be having a training day (could be in the building or online from home). As PPs have said, due to the short notice, most schools will probably have their training days for the year already planned out and things planned for the pupils for Friday. I haven’t heard 100% yet but I’d be surprised if my Head decides to close to pupils for the day.

@Bluepolkadots42

You just making sure those lazy, good for nothing, waste of air teachers aren't getting any kind of perk or reward for pushing on through a pandemic, with no distancing and no PPE and keeping the economy going by allowing parents to work? Workshy b@stards the lot of them.

Absolutely not. Would be much deserved.

Wondering when everyone in the nhs, supermarkets, bin collectors etc etc would get theirs, that's all.

It’s an inset day at DS’s school, but not DD’s, or several other schools I know of.
At DS’s school there is a full day of training planned for all staff. Not a day off at all.

@LittleRa

It’s down to individual schools whether to close to pupils on Friday 18th (ie the pupils’ last day be Thursday 17th). If they do decide to close the staff will be having a training day (could be in the building or online from home). As PPs have said, due to the short notice, most schools will probably have their training days for the year already planned out and things planned for the pupils for Friday. I haven’t heard 100% yet but I’d be surprised if my Head decides to close to pupils for the day.

Just to add to my post- if schools do decide to close to pupils and take Friday as a training day, it wouldn’t be an “extra” training day, it will need to be rearranged from another point in the year (for example if the school were planning to have a training day on January 4th, the could swap and do the 18th Dec but then pupils would return Jan 4th). Hope that helps

"Wondering when everyone in the nhs, supermarkets, bin collectors etc etc would get theirs, that's all."

And there it is!

Wondering when everyone in the nhs, supermarkets, bin collectors etc etc would get theirs, that's all.

Here we go. Those roles aren't even comparable. Inset days aren't a jolly so they can get their Christmas shopping done. I know that & I'm not a teacher. You've been told it's not 'a day off'.

@justgeton I'm sure if you wrote to the Prime Minister he could look into it. Unbelievable that anyone could deny any of those workers any kind of perk or thank you just because it might not be extended to all. It isn't a race to the bottom in how we treat our key workers you know...

Wondering when everyone in the nhs, supermarkets, bin collectors etc etc would get theirs, that's all.

You mean nhs staff don’t have the opportunity to improve training at any point? Or is it because you don’t think teachers should be given that opportunity?

Haven't heard anything about the 18th, but just piping up to say some NHS staff have been given an extra day off - my Trust have given everyone a 'wellbeing day' - an extra day off to be used before the end of March. So it doesn't necessarily need the government to decide these things, employers could make that decision for themselves (granted that's not the case for teachers, but for people saying key workers generally should be given one - lobby your employer for it)

You know that “inset” means “in service training”. 5 days to be used for this purpose at the school’s discretion throughout the academic year. The 5 days were taken from the school summer holidays. Introduced by Kenneth Baker MP when he was education secretary in the 1980s, originally called Baker Days.

I’m not aware that there are any universal days off for public sector workers. It would kind of defeat the point for frontline workers!!

Doesn't sound at all like a perk for teachers. It's a training day taken from the 5 allocated each year.

Teachers would still be expected to work on that day, potentially in school. It just means the kids aren't in school that day. Which means that teachers won't be involved in track and trace work on Christmas Day.