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Help with a math problem please.

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Aintnosunshinewhenimgone · 01/12/2020 18:45

Dd has a problem in her math book and we are struggling to answer it- there is no answer in the book. The question is: can you make a system of 3 coins that would allow you to make every number from 1-50 if you only had one of each coin?? Ypu can make up your own coins e.g. 3p 15p etc but can only use each one once to make each number. I'm stuck and stubborn so someone please help!! Thank you

OP posts:
michellejj · 01/12/2020 19:31

Yes, with 6 coins. The amounts are:
1,2,4,8,16,32.

rosegoldwatcher · 01/12/2020 19:32

In that case @peakotter has given you the solution.

DorotheaDiamond · 01/12/2020 19:33

1,2,4,8,16,32...you’re effectively counting in binary!

1
2
2,1
4
4,1
4,2
4,2,1
8...

DorotheaDiamond · 01/12/2020 19:33

Damn cross post

Viviennemary · 01/12/2020 19:34

It a totally batshit idiotic question. Said it back with a letter of complaint.

CastleOfDoom · 01/12/2020 19:34

@00100001

You're missing the 's' on the end.

Problem solved.

Grin

Ha ha, yes!! Grin

00100001 · 01/12/2020 19:35

What?
So if you've used a 1p+2p+3p to make 6p, that's it,can't ever use 1 2 or 3 again?? Confused

Can you post the a actual question please?

TicTacTwo · 01/12/2020 19:36

Question has been answered
The irony of your username 😂

DodoApplet · 01/12/2020 19:38

Yes, the problem is really just an introduction to binary arithmetic, isn’t it.

WhoNeedsShoesAnyway · 01/12/2020 19:39

1p 2p 5p
1-1
2-2
3 - 1+2
4- 5-1
5-5
6- 5+1
7-5+2
8-5+2+1
9-5x2-1
10- 5x2
11-5 x 2 +1

I know technically you can't have two of the same coin, but if you are allowed any sign, plus brackets then maybe?

WhoNeedsShoesAnyway · 01/12/2020 19:42

Apologies, I didnt refresh!Blush

00100001 · 01/12/2020 19:46

@TicTacTwo

Question has been answered The irony of your username 😂
Ha ha :p

Question still doesn't make sense.

Why aren't you allowed to use 1p ever again??

If you can't use the 1 again, how can you make the later numbers??

00100001 · 01/12/2020 19:46

Or does she mean that you can't use the same coin twice in each sum?? Confused

TeenPlusTwenties · 01/12/2020 19:47

As stated correctly above 1,2,4,8,16,32

Just like my imperial weights for by kitchen balance scales really. (1oz, 2oz, 4oz, 8oz, 1lb, 2lb)

ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble · 01/12/2020 19:48

Let me check I've got it first.

You have 6 coins and if you use any of them to make a number you can't use that value anymore?

Can you add more coins of different values in as the other get used?

satnighttakeaway · 01/12/2020 19:51

This is going to totally bamboozzle the posters who only read the first post, how many more posts are we going to get saying it's impossible Grin

Sunflowertall · 01/12/2020 19:55

I think pp have given you the answer and agree it is a tricky one! How old is DD?

I'm a primary school teacher and when I set a reasoning task like this, while I keep within within their realm of ability, my focus is not on whether they can find the answer but on developing other skills. I expect your daughter has demonstrated resilience, perseverance, some mathematical vocabulary, reasoning (I'll try this...but of that doesn't work then...well then I need to do this...next I can try...but if this, then that). All important skills too.

August20 · 01/12/2020 20:04

Six coins is a game changer, OP. Grin

August20 · 01/12/2020 20:07

@ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble

No, you can only use each coin once in making each number.

E.g. to make 3 you must use 1 + 2 not 1 + 1 +1
However when you make another number you get all 6 coins again. So 5 you can use the 1 again (4 + 1)

ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble · 01/12/2020 20:09

[quote August20]@ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble

No, you can only use each coin once in making each number.

E.g. to make 3 you must use 1 + 2 not 1 + 1 +1
However when you make another number you get all 6 coins again. So 5 you can use the 1 again (4 + 1)[/quote]
That's what I thought, but OP's clarifications seemed to suggest otherwise. I'm even more confused.Grin

TheOrigRights · 01/12/2020 20:12

How can you make 1 from 3 coins?

By using just a 1p coin?

Grin I presumed you had to use all 3 coins - that was the least of the problems!
August20 · 01/12/2020 20:32

@ComeOnBabyHauntMyBubble

I think that's still right, when OP says "cant use 1p and 1p again" I believe she means you can't use 1 + 1 in the same question.

But you can use 1p again to make up a different number. The wording is just a little confusing.

TerrifiedandWorried · 01/12/2020 20:35

The answer is "No".

MamehaSan · 01/12/2020 20:41

@TeenPlusTwenties

As stated correctly above 1,2,4,8,16,32

Just like my imperial weights for by kitchen balance scales really. (1oz, 2oz, 4oz, 8oz, 1lb, 2lb)

Woah, mic drop moment... I never realised that imperial measures were effectively binary. I use my imperial balance scales all the time. I can't believe I never noticed! Mind is blown.
TeenPlusTwenties · 02/12/2020 11:22

Mameha I have two sets of weights, imperial & metric.

The Imperial ones stack so beautifully on top of each other.
The metric ones drive me crazy as I have 2x20g and 2x200g weights so they don't stack properly at all.
This is one of the main reasons I use imperial if the cookery book gives both options.

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