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Who is responsible? Accommodation owners or guests?

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Ylangylangspritz · 27/11/2020 21:19

Apologies if this has been done before, and I have tried to google but I can’t find an answer. Who is responsible under the new COVID-19 advice re. Holiday accommodation? If a guest cottage is in tier 2, are the owners responsible to monitor where their guests have come from /if they’re mixed households or up to the guests?

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usertemp1010 · 27/11/2020 21:21

Also interested in this

sofiaaaaaa · 27/11/2020 21:22

The guests I would have thought. But presumably either party in breach could be dealt with by a fine.

TheNationsFavourite · 27/11/2020 21:22

I do some housekeeping for an agency cottage; the agency says it's the responsibility of the guests to abide by the guidelines.

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borageforager · 27/11/2020 21:24

Friends who run a holiday place say their insurance is invalidated if they have guests breaking tier rules.

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Ylangylangspritz · 27/11/2020 21:27

@borageforager

Friends who run a holiday place say their insurance is invalidated if they have guests breaking tier rules.
Because of that, are they’re cancelling trips?
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babypossum · 27/11/2020 21:35

I received an email this morning stating that we must contact the holiday company if we believed we were going to be in breach of the rules. Pretty obvious really as the booking is for 8 and the rule is 6. We get free cancellation until a week before though so we're waiting to see if it changes before we contact them.

borageforager · 27/11/2020 21:35

Yes, if they know that someone is travelling from tier 3 they are cancelling their visit. They have to rely on honesty a lot obviously but eg if you have 4 families booking a house together it is pretty obvious they aren’t a bubble even if they claim they are...

DelurkingAJ · 27/11/2020 21:37

You could be more than 6 and all from one household. I have a friend with five DC who is increasing infuriated that they keep getting assumed to be breaking the rules.

babypossum · 27/11/2020 21:42

@DelurkingAJ

You could be more than 6 and all from one household. I have a friend with five DC who is increasing infuriated that they keep getting assumed to be breaking the rules.
Sorry I should have said the booking was made for 2 families at different addresses so pretty obvious we can't go.
jollygreenpea · 27/11/2020 22:15

How could the owners really know, all they could do is ask the people that are due, they wouldn't have a clue if they were telling the truth or not though.

RednaxelasLunch · 27/11/2020 22:20

Is it actually against the law to go on holiday outside of one's tier area? That doesn't sound right?

Missingthebridegene · 27/11/2020 22:24

Also interested! We're in tier three and want to book an air b n b for a week. Is this allowed if we stay within our area!? This is just for our household to enable us to have a pleasant Xmas as were mid renovation and will have no kitchen! X

Africa2go · 27/11/2020 22:24

Most people will have booked before the rules so will have given their correct address. I've had a booking cancelled, owner obviously looked up our postcode (Tier 3).

borageforager · 27/11/2020 22:29

@RednaxelasLunch

Is it actually against the law to go on holiday outside of one's tier area? That doesn't sound right?
I’ve lost track of what is codified in law and what is just guidelines tbh.
Africa2go · 27/11/2020 22:30

Rules say (for owners) accommodation such as hotels, B&Bs, campsites, and guest houses must close

For residents it says avoid travelling to other parts of the UK, including for overnight stays other than where necessary

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Ylangylangspritz · 27/11/2020 22:41

@Africa2go

Rules say (for owners) accommodation such as hotels, B&Bs, campsites, and guest houses must close

For residents it says avoid travelling to other parts of the UK, including for overnight stays other than where necessary

Is that current or post 2nd December? Also is it advice Vs law?

Still I can’t see guidance on who the fault lies with (not a question of who is liable if someone gets sick whilst on a trip but about mixing of tiers/households) but who is reasonable?

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Ylangylangspritz · 27/11/2020 22:42

Responsible- sorry, damn phone.

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Ylangylangspritz · 28/11/2020 10:35

If anyone can find some official gov guidance on this that would be great!

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borageforager · 28/11/2020 10:42

I would imagine they are both at fault? If you travel from eg a tier 3 area to a tier 1 area for a holiday you are knowingly breaking the rules, and if an accommodation owner knowingly accommodates them they are also at fault?

borageforager · 28/11/2020 10:43

Look up Adam Wagner, he has a 35 minute YouTube video which I haven’t watched on the laws. Might cover it in that?

Candleabra · 28/11/2020 10:47

What about the rules over Xmas? 3 households booked into a holiday cottage 24, 25 and 26th Dec. Is this ok as it falls within the Christmas period?

HopeAndDriftWood · 28/11/2020 10:51

@candleabra You’re okay in “private rented accommodation”, but not allowed in hotels, pubs or restaurants, according to the gov website Smile

Who is responsible? Accommodation owners or guests?
MumOfSpiritedBoys · 28/11/2020 10:53

Could you just tell adult guests they all need to email or text a picture of drivers licence or bill/other showing their address then you can check yourself.

Candleabra · 28/11/2020 10:54

Thank you @hopeanddriftwood that's really helpful. It's so confusing!