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Inherited nightmare house - what to do?

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TomHanksintheMoneyPit · 23/11/2020 11:36

Last year I inherited my late mother's upper floor maisonette, which was in an appalling condition due to my mother being disabled and mentally ill and a hoarder, and a squatter living in the house for five months after her death who trashed the place.

The place is basically structurally sound and does not have any mould or mildew, and no problems with insect or rodent infestation or anything like that. But it's in a terrible condition and has not been touched since the 1970s. The bathroom and kitchen both need to be ripped out and replaced. It probably needs a new boiler. Every room (even the bathroom!) has stained, threadbare carpets. I've pulled some of the carpets back and the floorboards underneath are in reasonable condition albeit would need a fair bit of work (sanding, staining and varnishing) to make them look good. All the rooms except one have ancient tatty wallpaper. The doors, door frames and window frames are filthy and yellowed and would need to be deep-cleaned then re-painted white. The massive garden is a jungle with knee-high brambles and at least two fallen down sheds. The garage is so jammed with stuff you can't even get inside.

I have health problems, do not drive, and it takes me 90 minutes on (free) public transport to get to her house. I don't have anyone to help me and earn a pretty small salary, although I do have a generous cash inheritance which is in an ISA. I generally can only visit her house once a week, twice at most, and spend perhaps 7 hours there. It's taken me a year just to clear out her personal possessions and furniture. On the other hand I'm not bad at DIY/decorating and feel confident in being able to do stuff like prep and paint walls or put down laminate flooring.

I'm now at the point of having to decide when to put it on the market, and how much work to do in advance. People with experience in selling houses, and in particular selling or buying fixer uppers, would you recommend:

  1. Putting it on the market as-is, as a fixer upper, in the knowledge that the sheer look of the place is so off-putting.
  1. Doing superficial DIY work to make it look more appealing, eg. stripping the old wallpaper, giving the walls a fresh coat of paint, cleaning and re-painting the doors, ripping up the carpets and putting some cheap laminate floor tiles down, just so that the property looks clean, neutral, and not totally neglected. But leave the kitchen and bathroom and sell it with the understanding the new owners will need to do some work in installing a new kitchen and bathroom, new boiler, fixing the garden, etc.
  1. Invest the contents of my ISA into paying someone to do it up properly including installing a new kitchen and bathroom, before putting it on the market.

I'm leaning towards #2, but I'm uncertain exactly what I should do, vs what I should leave. I keep thinking of new things that need fixing or replacing, like the garden fence, and going AAARRRRGGGHH! Any advice?

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Oscarsdaddy · 24/11/2020 18:21

@threatmatrix

Aren’t you lucky to have inherited your mothers house even though it’s obvious you didn’t give much care to her. Maybe if you’d have helped keep it up you wouldn’t be in this predicament now.
The charm school phoned, can you call them back with your bank details, you’re due a refund ?
like7 · 24/11/2020 18:21

No 1. Keep sane. What a waste guessing what the next buyer might want. Let a buyer get it cheaper and do what they want with it.

Vynalbob · 24/11/2020 18:23

Leaning towards number 1.
Number 2 might be tempting but a quick bodge up will either attract more buyers but may actually put off fixer uppers..."have the sellers hidden something under magnolia paint & cheap carpets.

Or like another replyer option 1.5. Big roller & big tin White undercoat... bish bash bosh (as nobody has ever said) 💯

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cherish123 · 24/11/2020 18:24

Option 2 in neutral colours

roxanne119 · 24/11/2020 18:25

I would get it cleared out and cleaned out the maisonette and the garden , then sell . Before it gets squatted again .

midlifeangst · 24/11/2020 18:28

Sell it, don’t put your ISA into it

MillieVanilla · 24/11/2020 18:29

Long shot but do you know of there is a Mutual Aid society in your area? Or Next Door?
An elderly, unwell guy had a fire in his home and lost everything in the living room and kitchen. A neighbour of his posted on Next Door and Mutual Aid asking for help to clear up, paint etc and for furniture, by the end of the week he had been given kitchen stuff, living room furniture and a group of volunteers to help clean up and redecorate (myself included). Just thinking you sound like you've been through a really difficult time and the house is either going to cost an awful lot to sort out or you will end up with nothing at the end of it all, so perhaps you may find some people to help with the garden and painting, and then some secondhand furniture to give the idea of a nice set up?

Bebethany · 24/11/2020 18:40

I was in this position 3 years ago, I invested £17,000 in new plumbing, new kitchen, bathroom etc and now it’s lets for £1200 pm

Passenger42 · 24/11/2020 18:40

When I bought my bungalow it was in a similar state to your. The owner lived abroad so had instructed a an odd job man to clear out the garage, the carpets that were bad were ripped up and thrown out and the whole place was painted magnolia. I had to buy new carpets and flooring and install a new bathroom and I made do with the existing kitchen units. They didn’t budge an inch on price and I only got some money off due to a few problems that came out of the survey. Don’t waste your time with flooring, people want to choose their own. Just paint the place and get the boiler serviced. I had to rip out the gas fire as it was unsafe and replace with new. People were still competing with me to buy as it was a good area with large garden and a doer upper

EstherOnions · 24/11/2020 18:55

Sold my dad's house last year. Spent the summer clearing and cleaning it myself, painted a few of the more rank walls, got someone in to hack down the jungle outside and take away the collapsed shed then stuck it on the market. All the estate agents who saw it said don't bother your barmy putting in a new kitchen or bathroom - whoever was going to buy it would have their own vision. Had six offers at a price which reflected it needed complete rewiring and modernising.

tommyhoundmum · 24/11/2020 19:05

Just get it in a clean condition, get agents round and sell it.

pollymere · 24/11/2020 19:09

I'd get someone in to throw the carpets and then sell as is. My house was like that when I bought it. It will put off some but is a great opportunity for those with the slightly more tight budget.

numberoneson · 24/11/2020 19:10

option 1. Far less physical & mental stress for you, and whatever the house sells for will be more funds to be added to your savings.

UsernameRebooted · 24/11/2020 19:13

If it needs re wiring then there is no point doing and decoration, any carpets as they will just be pulled up.

absolutelyknackeredcow · 24/11/2020 19:15

Wishing you well OP
For what it is worth I bought a complete wreck two years ago (no central heating, leaking roof, stuff everywhere and brace yourself a ZOO in the basement).
Clearing it took no time at all.
I don't think it's worth doing any kind of paint job - Reno jobs are Reno jobs and a certain type or buyers goes for them

MsTSwift · 24/11/2020 19:16

Can’t believe the suggestion to get kind hearted folks to do all the horrible grunt work for free so the op can make abit more profit! What cheek!

Tzimi · 24/11/2020 19:18

It amounts to the same thing really- you can either sell it as it is, and get less money for it. Or, you can spend money doing it up, and recoup the money with a higher selling price. Probably it would sell more quickly if it was in better condition- but it would take some time to refurb it!

ANP88 · 24/11/2020 19:19

Be careful with option 2. You will struggle to get it sold with issues such as the boiler. Any buyer may ask for extra work to be undertaken to get it up to current standards (EIC, home buyers valuation etc) for a mortgage to be approved. Plus, any cladding will be a problem.

Explore option 3 as to cost by a small building firm if you have a recommendation. They can project manage and you can leave it with them, plus get a clearance company to take that hassle away.

Option 1 may only be saleable to cash buyers. There are plenty around. Don’t auction it without a minimum sale price. Informal tender might be a better option.

Get a valuation on the house now, and one if it was renovated. Compare the cost and see if you can increase profit via option 3. If not, you know you should go down the option 1 route.

Also, do some research on the area, house values and recent sales.

Good luck!

Veiaola · 24/11/2020 19:21

If the kitchen an bathroom are not useable and liveable it won't be mortagable. Will limit your buyers.
It may be worth doing bathroom an kitchen and simple freshen up before selling it, as it will add pounds to the sale price.

DagenhamRoundhouse · 24/11/2020 19:24

Have it cleared and then put it into auction. It might even end up on Homes Under the Hammer!

Monkeypeas · 24/11/2020 19:25

A house near me hadn’t been touched in over 60 years. The old couple who lived there both had severe mental health issues.

It went to auction after they died, we went to see it as it had amazing potential, you couldnt walk Anywhere other than a Barlow path that had been cleared in the rotting debris filling every room.
The bathroom was just one giant toilet and I couldn’t go near it, the garden was insane and seemed to also have human waste in it.

We didn’t go for it as we knew it was beyond our means to renovate but plenty others did and it went above guide price at the auction.

It was renovated within a few years and resold. It looked amazing.

If it really bugs you then get the carpets ripped up but I wouldn’t bother with the wallpaper. The walls will probably need re-skimming once it’s off and it just adds to the jobs.

Price it to sell and get rid to someone who wants the project

WhatACovidNightmare · 24/11/2020 19:26

@domesticslattern

I would do a scaled down version of 2. Pay someone to clear the garden, sheds and the garage, and rip up visibly dirty carpets (leave floorboards not laminate). Maybe strip the wall paperdepending how long it would take. Then sell it as a fixer upper. Remember your time and sanity are worth something! and no-one wants a cheap kitchen and bathroom to someone else's tastes. I'm speaking as a buyer who has seen places like this and it's really off putting knowing you'll be ripping out the brand new bottom of the range kitchen, but paying for it anyway.
Totally agree with this, and get it on ASAP before the stamp duty holiday ends. If it’s priced right for the area then developers or those who are looking for a project will see potential. Also, from experience of stripping wallpaper that can be very time consuming / costly if you’re paying someone else to do it. You could try a bit and see how far back it goes but may be better to leave it!
Monkeypeas · 24/11/2020 19:26

Narrow not Barlow 🤨

Purpl · 24/11/2020 19:27

Don’t invest in no 3 as the property market could crash, get estate agent to value it and give an estimate of how much in good condition. Have a look in zoopla to see what good condition ones go for. Can’t always trust estate agent.
RIP up the carpets and if you enjoy painting paint all white do looks and smells clean. You will have to clear the garage though. To be honest I’m sure someone would be happy to do that for you at the money so many people not working. Good luck xx
Sorry for you loss too

AnotherNameForChristmas · 24/11/2020 19:32

Don't do three unless the cost difference between selling it done up is significantly more.
Get some estate agents to have a look and see what they value it at now.
I would strip it bare (leaving fixtures and fittings intact) and at the most, paint the walls a natural white or something.