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Schools not fundraising for children in need

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elliejjtiny · 13/11/2020 17:24

Is it just my dc's schools or are lots of schools doing it? This year both my dc's schools have announced that they are not fundraising for children in need this year. Older dc's secondary school is raising money for the local foodbank. Younger dc's primary school is raising money for a local project that is providing lunches for children who get free school meals during the school holidays.

Just wondering if other schools are doing similar? From a selfish point of view I am a bit worried about what will happen if children in need get a lot less money this year as we benefit personally from children in need.

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Graphista · 13/11/2020 21:44

@Clymene as a staunch socialist I totally agree! Indeed in many cases if people were simply paid a living wage for an honest days work and benefits were at a liveable level MANY charities would become redundant!

But as someone mentioned on another thread, charitable giving is a key tenet of capitalist ideology, it feeds into the segregation of "deserving" and "undeserving" poor and forced them to be categorised.

That's not even a whole other thread that's like a whole other section though!

Loshad · 13/11/2020 21:47

My school doesn’t
However we have a big push for the local foodbank 6x/ year, and we also Choose 1 or 2 charities per year to support ( chosen by the kids) and non uniform money etc goes to them

Bikingbear · 13/11/2020 21:50

DSs school didn't do anything but I don't think they did anything last year either. They had a change of HT who seems really mindful of the vast variances in incomes across the school.

I remember the first term when DS started it was School sponsor, Harvest Thanksgiving, Hallowe'en outfit and disco, donation for poppy day, money for pudsey, money for the pantomime, money for bring and buy sale and collection at Christmas service.

OMG it was endless it just felt like we were constantly being asked for money for something. I really felt for those with couple of kids or low income.

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Bikingbear · 13/11/2020 21:54

Oh and they had Christmas jumper day! That's been retitled dress down day, totally removing the need to buy or decorate a jumper.

Bvop · 13/11/2020 21:59

Our school had a home clothes day for CIN today, but I donated to the school fund instead as I don’t like supporting these massive big charities which then parcel the funding out to smaller groups - I’d prefer to directly support specific charities and prefer not to support others.

Clymene · 13/11/2020 22:25

True @Graphista! Grin

OscarRIP · 13/11/2020 22:43

Our school did a fund raiser for the Big Coffee Morning last month, sold poppies last week so didn't do anything official for CiN today. An email was sent out to say that children could wear something CiN related to day if they wanted but no donations would be collected. About 25% of kids wore a t shirt or hairband. Pretty low key. Finances are tight round here (more local job losses announced this week Sad).

ineedaholidaynow · 14/11/2020 11:26

For a lot of smaller charities they probably wouldn't survive without these large fundraiser activities. In brutal honesty how many people would donate to the charity that OP's DC benefits from. What you would probably find that the only people who do donate to charities like that are the families who directly benefit from it, and if they can't afford to donate the charity might not survive.

Pipandmum · 14/11/2020 11:31

At my children's school kids charity committee (made up of kids) nominate different charities. So many are not nearly as publicised as children in need. Local charities are great, and often a child will suggest a charity due to a personal connection. Letting them decide makes them feel more committed and eager to fundraise.

formerbabe · 14/11/2020 11:35

I massively struggle at the best of times watching millionaire celebrities asking me to hand over money...let alone now.

endofthelinefinally · 14/11/2020 12:24

@formerbabe

I massively struggle at the best of times watching millionaire celebrities asking me to hand over money...let alone now.
I couldn't agree more.
EasilyDepleted · 14/11/2020 13:07

@formerbabe

I massively struggle at the best of times watching millionaire celebrities asking me to hand over money...let alone now.
This is why I don't watch the show.
WoodYewBee · 14/11/2020 13:11

All charities are struggling this year. The biggest charity fundraiser was cancelled

Why are shops restricting cash payments but schoolchildren are expected to take in cash en masse?

AliceMck · 14/11/2020 13:20

Mine didn’t, my 6yo DD even got told off for wearing her pudsey ears headband. I pulled her teacher up on it and suddenly it was fine to wear.

I’m guessing the school is being sensitive to peoples current financial situations and trying not to put the pressure on parents. They are already asking for food donations. There has been no own clothes days this year either, usually there would have been 2 or 3 by now with funds going to various causes.

Bikingbear · 14/11/2020 14:08

Why are shops restricting cash payments but schoolchildren are expected to take in cash en masse?

Many schools are cashless too, dinners, milk, fundraisers all paid via an app.
They were already heading that way before Covid but Covid pushed it over the line completely.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/11/2020 14:21

I agree with all the other posters about the virtue-signalling fundraising from CIN, Red Nose Day and anything touted by the BBC. It's so misplaced, especially now.

As for anybody collecting at the school-gates - shame on them. There's no need for that. If anybody wants to donate they can do it anonymously online through Just Giving or whatever. The post upthread about children's sickness absence being higher on days where a donation is expected just makes me furious and angry for those parents who have to put up with this nonsense.

Bikingbear · 14/11/2020 14:26

The post upthread about children's sickness absence being higher on days where a donation is expected just makes me furious and angry for those parents who have to put up with this nonsense.

I think that's partly why schools are trying to go cashless, less obvious who pays and who doesn't.

It's actually sad that schools even need to raise funds for stuff

Carpathian2 · 14/11/2020 14:36

@MrsJunglelow

I know you benefit from the funds for your DSs club which is lovely but personally I despise Children in need.

I think that for the BBC it’s little more than a publicity stunt to make them look good.
I don’t for one second think the BBC actually care at all for children.
If they did, there wouldn’t be such massive and long lasting covered up child sex abuse scandals there over such a long period of time.

I think there is a definate element of playing ‘white saviour’ and aims to further one’s career with the whole rich white celebrity travels to poor black community, taking photographs with all the kids thing.

In fact, I think a large part of it is virtue signalling.
I find it odd that one day a year everyone is out gathering donations/sponsors to shave their head, sit in beans etc to help the children and yet, these same people are often very outspoken about stopping migrants, many of them children, from accessing this country where they would be safe.
Suddenly no one seems to care about these children who are being shot at, drowning, starving, losing their parents etc.
These same people often don’t ever volunteer to help children, nor do they donate or campaign/protest about issues like poverty or trafficking or war.
But boy are they quick to criticise anyone who doesn’t donate or sponsor CIN.
It seems to me they simply want to look good and don’t really care very much for the children.

Another poster mentioned it and it angers me too and that is the blatant shaming of the poor.
We know that many families in the UK are struggling to make ends meet, going without so their children can eat etc.
So why are they being guilt tripped into donating money they don’t have?
Demonised for not giving ‘just a pound’ or ‘just a fiver’ or ‘just a tenner’.
It’s wrong.

I think that like all massive charities, a significant proportion of those huge donations do not go where are they needed and in common with other huge, and stinking rich charities and organisations, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if there are some murky goings on similar to the scandals that hit Oxfam.

I would like to see instead more donations and help for smaller, less corrupt charities/organisations who most likely aren’t out for themselves and misspending donations giving hundreds of thousands to CEOs and pittance to those in need.
More volunteering and campaigning and concern year round, not one day a year.

You have brilliantly summed up what I've felt about children in need for years. I've never really had spare money to donate, but I was made to feel like Scrooge if I didn't, mainly by the schools!
LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 14/11/2020 14:37

Schools don't need to raise funds for CIN/RedNose, etc., they elect to do that. I agree with you Bikingbear that it's sad that schools need to arrange funds for their own functioning though. How can that ever have slid through as an expectation? Now it's almost ratified as the norm.

We need a new government made up of people who are actually having to put up with the shitshow that the current one current is. This one is broken and ineffective - and wreaking damage everywhere.

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/11/2020 14:56

I just don't think fundraising is on the agenda like it was pre covid. So many families are impacted by furlough, job losses, etc that it seems a bit insensitive to push for donations for anything just now.

Even the main BBC telethon was severely truncated this year. It normally goes on until about 2am, but it finished sharply at 10pm this year. It did annoy me that they kept apologising for guilting asking people to donate, as they know how hard it’s been for a lot of us this year because of COVID. There are plenty of folk out there who were struggling hugely financially before COVID and will be after COVID; same with the supermarkets making a massive show of giving food to food banks to help those affected by COVID – did they care before when it was the ‘ordinary, boring’ poor people? I suppose COVID poverty is ‘sexy’ in a way that everyday poverty isn’t.

Did I hea r that if Lewis Hamilton pays his taxes there would be no need for CIN?

Did you see Gary Barlow offering out 140 of his gold discs, awards and other baubles to lucky winners in an effort to raise more money and make him look like the nicest guy ever ? Are the rest of us allowed to withhold our taxes and then give however much or little of the equivalent money we want to our preferred charities instead? Can we come off PAYE as long as we promise to do a car boot sale for the local hospice once a year?

It also seems very counter-intuitive to encourage children to buy expensive Pudsey-themed outfits and accessories (which won’t fit to be worn again next year) in order to be allowed to donate to CIN for the privilege of doing so. Look at the amount of the sales price that goes to CIN and there seems to still be a clear element of profit built in for Asda, Tesco or whoever. Even when they say to ‘just wear yellow’ – if kids don’t usually wear/like/suit yellow, that’s another t-shirt to have to buy for a single day, so they don’t feel left out.

Plus, most seem to ask for £1 as they see that as a token tiny amount that everybody can supposedly afford, but that’s two or three loaves of cheap bread for families who are really struggling.

I don’t for one second think the BBC actually care at all for children.
If they did, there wouldn’t be such massive and long lasting covered up child sex abuse scandals there over such a long period of time.

JS wanted to be involved with the BBC CIN night, but they outright refused to let him, as “everybody knows what he’s like”. No problem with him working for the BBC on other shows aimed at and featuring children the other 364 days of the year, though….

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 14/11/2020 14:58

I also think that MrsJunglelow nailed it perfectly.

BurningEars · 14/11/2020 15:03

Some schools will be aware of many of their children coming from homes which have been seriously financially affected by Covid, and so will not be fundraising.

Scumble · 14/11/2020 15:09

@AliceMck

Mine didn’t, my 6yo DD even got told off for wearing her pudsey ears headband. I pulled her teacher up on it and suddenly it was fine to wear.

I’m guessing the school is being sensitive to peoples current financial situations and trying not to put the pressure on parents. They are already asking for food donations. There has been no own clothes days this year either, usually there would have been 2 or 3 by now with funds going to various causes.

'I pulled her teacher up on it'?

Yikes.

Justajot · 14/11/2020 15:15

Ours had non uniform with a suggested donation - no one checks who donates to ravoid it being obligatory.

But the major fundraising this term is for the pta. They haven't been able to hold their usual events and the school really relies on that income, which is appalling, but unavoidable.

WhoopsSomethingWentWrong · 14/11/2020 15:17

Mine didn’t, my 6yo DD even got told off for wearing her pudsey ears headband. I pulled her teacher up on it and suddenly it was fine to wear

Why on earth did you pull your the teacher up on it? If it wasn’t a non uniform day then why would she be allowed to wear something that isn’t uniform? Blush