Would you attend a peaceful protest if a convicted paedophile moved into your street?

[thefourgp]

I’ve never attended anything similar before and I’m in two minds about going. He was convicted (I’ve read the newspaper articles which show his photo) and has been released after serving half his sentence. I don’t know if he owns the property but he’s moved in with his wife who stood by him. There’s a peaceful protest being arranged. Would you go?

Yes

I don’t believe they can ever be rehabilitated either but what do you do with them when they’ve served their sentence?

They shouldn't be allowed to live.

@MrsJunglelow

From the circles website:

‘Circles of Support and Accountability (Circles) build safer communities through local volunteers working with sex offenders to minimise alienation, support reintegration and so prevent sexual reoffending’

‘The successful rehabilitation and reintegration of a sex offender requires consideration of their own needs, the victim’s needs and those of the community’

No, just no.

So because you don’t personally believe that paedophiles can be rehabilitated, your response is “no, just no”?

They really aren’t casually used by anybody

I assure you they are!!

He hasn't served half his sentence, unless you're saying something very unusual has happened. If, for example, he received an 8 year sentence and served 4 in prison then he has served the whole of the custodial element of his sentence, not half.

I imagine there's a strong correlation between people who repeat tabloid scaremongering catchphrases like 'only served half his sentence' without researching whether that's true for themselves, and people who think that vigilante justice is useful or acceptable.

you not realise that if your daughter came home with someone known for violence against anyone else, you would presumably be concerned for her welfare. But because that violence is committed towards what you perceive to be a just cause it’s presumably not actually violence?

Yes. If my daughter was dating someone who best up a child abuser, I frankly wouldn't give a shit. If someone abused my child, i'd like to think I'd cause some damage too.

Funnily enough, no one has ever used the word ‘paedo’. Can you think for a moment why not?

I was abused as a kid. I don't care about the sue of the fucking word peado. Why would I give a fuck?

It’s not about thinking paedophiles can be rehabilitated. It’s about enabling them to live their lives with the support they need to manage their behaviour
A bit like how some mental health conditions can’t be cured, but people can be supported to live with them

I am reading through everything but quite honestly, we are never going to agree here because the organisation believes rehabilitation is possible and i don’t.

As far as I’m concerned they should be imprisoned indefinitely and the idea that they should be rehoused and ‘re integrated’ into society makes me feel sick and I think very many people will feel the same.

As far as I’m concerned they should be imprisoned indefinitely and the idea that they should be rehoused and ‘re integrated’ into society makes me feel sick and I think very many people will feel the same.

I agree. Let them rot.

I wouldnt. Id be glad i knew what number house to warn kids to avoid though but id also have to warn kids that he was just the one that had been caught. The ones you dont know about are the more dangerous ones

@MrsJunglelow

It’s not about thinking paedophiles can be rehabilitated. It’s about enabling them to live their lives with the support they need to manage their behaviour A bit like how some mental health conditions can’t be cured, but people can be supported to live with them

I am reading through everything but quite honestly, we are never going to agree here because the organisation believes rehabilitation is possible and i don’t.

As far as I’m concerned they should be imprisoned indefinitely and the idea that they should be rehoused and ‘re integrated’ into society makes me feel sick and I think very many people will feel the same.

At least you’re honest about your refusal to believe that their work has an impact on children’s safety.

So because you don’t personally believe that paedophiles can be rehabilitated, your response is “no, just no”?

I don’t believe they should be in society.

So any care to rehouse them, efforts to ‘re integrate’ them, any consideration for ‘their needs’ is entirely lost on me because I don’t believe they should be out of prison.

I think these people are manipulative and calculating beyond belief.
I think they are skilled at pulling the wool over other’s eyes and I believe anyone who truly believes they can be rehabilitated or that they can stop them ever re offending is incredibly naive and has been played.

And I’m afraid they are never going to be given a sentence of life without parole, no matter how much you wish it could be so.

So you’ll have to find some way of making peace with that.

@MrsJunglelow

So because you don’t personally believe that paedophiles can be rehabilitated, your response is “no, just no”?

I don’t believe they should be in society.

So any care to rehouse them, efforts to ‘re integrate’ them, any consideration for ‘their needs’ is entirely lost on me because I don’t believe they should be out of prison.

I think these people are manipulative and calculating beyond belief.
I think they are skilled at pulling the wool over other’s eyes and I believe anyone who truly believes they can be rehabilitated or that they can stop them ever re offending is incredibly naive and has been played.

So what’s your answer, seeing as none of the measures you think should happen won’t happen?

I was in a volunteer role with children and it turned out one of our younger helpers was grooming kids online.
I was devastated, we worked alongside this guy and never suspected, he didn't touch any of our kids, but once I'd got over the upset, the rage was incredible. I wanted to hurt him. (He's in prison now and was soft as fuck so no doubt he's suffering)
He deserves to live in fear like the kids he watched online did.
His parents moved away because they were so ashamed. I do feel for them.
I'd not necessarily go to a protest, but I would make sure to do my bit to make his life uncomfortable.

Peados have always been hated, they know they risk prison etc and they still do it. They cant be changed or helped. The only "help" imo they need is to be watched 24/7 so they cant destroy any more lives. And that never happens.

I certainly wouldn't be happy with a paedophile living close to me, but in the same breath if I was aware I could put potential obstacles in the way to alleviate any risks. There is always a high chance that they could live next or near you and you wouldn't know, either not been caught, gone underground, etc.
I definitely wouldn't go on a protest though, it would not be peaceful , no matter how much it was publicised as.

Unfortunately they're everywhere. We all live within a mile of one. I'm a mental health OT and finding this out does make me anxious (or extra aware).

@Ketrina

I don’t believe they can ever be rehabilitated either but what do you do with them when they’ve served their sentence?

They shouldn't be allowed to live.

You do know that even when we had the death penalty, which thankfully as a civilised society we have since abolished, that a crime of this nature would not have attracted a death sentence?

So what are you doing then to campaign for legal reform?

Or do you, like some of the other equally unenlightened posters on the thread, think that mob justice, meting out an execution style punishment is the answer? And when all involved go to prison for murder and conspiracy, what happens to their children and families?!

I can't believe how many people think the 'answer' to this is either the nimby-ist move this person on (to an area where they will be unknown, and more of a risk, which is fine because they're not HERE), or taking the law into your own hands and letting them be killed by a baying mob. No doubt whilst the poster upthread who likes knitting sits there like Madame Defarge .

No I wouldn't.

It's much safer if his location is known and his movements noted. Having said that, I wouldn't be happy if he was my next door neighbour.

I think these people are manipulative and calculating beyond belief.
I think they are skilled at pulling the wool over other’s eyes and I believe anyone who truly believes they can be rehabilitated or that they can stop them ever re offending is incredibly naive and has been played.
Do you just think and believe they are all manipulative and calculating, or do you know this for a fact?

Paedo* poxy tablet,

Or do you, like some of the other equally unenlightened posters on the thread,

Fuck off calling a survivor of csa basically dumb.

I wouldn't go to any street protest, but I'd write to whoever was appropriate and encourage others to do the same

Trouble is, some don't consider writing letters as "exciting" as waving their arms around and shouting, so whether they'd do it is another matter

Peados have always been hated, they know they risk prison etc and they still do it.

Exactly. They take the risk, they should be out in prison with the general pop and see what happens to them.