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Andy Burnham vs boris drama?

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Lollyneenah · 20/10/2020 17:43

I really like him, am a manchester ex pat and it has a massive chunk of my heart.
I'm watching the press conference and trying to make sense of boris rambling on - have the government dropped their offer from 60 mill to 22? I believe burnham was asking for 65.
Can anyone clarify?

When I lived there it was in a particularly poor area, and I cannot fathom those people having to operate on even less money.

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Lollyneenah · 20/10/2020 17:44

I really like andy b* not too keen on boz at moment

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User24689 · 20/10/2020 17:44

That's my understanding. Unbelievable. And has there been any justification given?

cathyandclare · 20/10/2020 17:45

I'm team Andy for sure. Boris has totally dissembled about the actual figures.

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MillieEpple · 20/10/2020 17:46

Is boris trying to incite violence.

unmarkedbythat · 20/10/2020 17:46

Johnson is a liar and a nasty one at that: to be prepared to give £60m of support and to drop it to £22m as punishment for leaders not playing ball is low even for a Tory Prime Minister.

Some of you voted for this.

User24689 · 20/10/2020 17:49

It's appalling. Like punishment.and I can't see anyone calling him out. Why?

I feel for Manchester. This whole situation is such a mess. I feel really scared of the control the government seem to have right now, feels like a dictatorship

nosswith · 20/10/2020 17:50

Mr Johnson has refused to give a figure. Though he does not do detail, he cannot even count the number of children he has.

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Lollyneenah · 20/10/2020 17:51

It reads as a punishment to manchester to me. When I think of what manchester has been through it just makes my blood run cold.
So glad for Andy fighting for his people.

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ChaosContinues · 20/10/2020 17:53

Isn't the £22m in addition to other support so the package remains on a par with the other area in tier 3.
What is appalling with a 2 week time lag for restrictions to have an impact on the infections - and therefore death - rates, that they spent 10 days arguing about it.
Surely anyone sensible would have dealt with the health issues first and then negotiated behind the scenes on cash.

Public negotiating is just show for politics.

SimonJT · 20/10/2020 17:59

@ChaosContinues

Isn't the £22m in addition to other support so the package remains on a par with the other area in tier 3. What is appalling with a 2 week time lag for restrictions to have an impact on the infections - and therefore death - rates, that they spent 10 days arguing about it. Surely anyone sensible would have dealt with the health issues first and then negotiated behind the scenes on cash. Public negotiating is just show for politics.
Other areas (Liverpool for example) received around £60m on in addition to other support.
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Lollyneenah · 20/10/2020 18:02

I think the restrictions are obviously needed, but the poverty predicted without a proper financial package is chilling.

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ChaosContinues · 20/10/2020 18:06

JVT's detail on examples of the increases in rates over a week are terrifying.

It should have been tier 3 first and negotiations simultaneously...
Madness.
I have little doubt that the package will end up being on a par with other areas - but the cost of the lost time in lives will be huge.

cathyandclare · 20/10/2020 18:09

The BBC just said that Downing Street had confirmed the £60 million is still on the table. They were probably all panicking when they heard Boris waffling endlessly.

myhobbyisouting · 20/10/2020 18:11

Can we (especially Boris Johnson) stop with the "JVT"? Hmm it's embarrassing

GiantKitten · 20/10/2020 18:16

AB originally asked for £90m.
He had already massively compromised down to £65m.
For Johnson to refuse that last £5m is pathetic Angry
AB is very impressive. #KingoftheNorth is all over Twitter Grin

FatCatThinCat · 20/10/2020 18:16

I wonder if buyer's regret is setting in yet amongst the northerners who voted for Johnson despite his obvious contempt for them.

GiantKitten · 20/10/2020 18:17

Especially when Jenrick & Berry finagled £25m each as a boost for Newark & Darwen in September.

SunscreenCentral · 20/10/2020 18:18

This is beyond disgraceful. Surreal, really.

The UK is never going to solve its deepening problems until Proportional Representation replaces FPTP. Never.

MarshaBradyo · 20/10/2020 18:20

It was £22m

Then £60m was counter offered? But rejected

Then dropped back down to £22m as no agreement

I think not accepting a higher amount will have a real impact on people, not convinced it was right way to go they can’t pay with warm feelings for Burnham

MarshaBradyo · 20/10/2020 18:24

Confirmed on LBC
Lost a lot over £5m

RubyViolet · 20/10/2020 18:28

We are being locked down because of under investment in the NHS. Ten years of austerity has drained the NHS to this !
The system is running on fumes.

CFSKate · 20/10/2020 18:29

I saw this on twitter earlier
twitter.com/cirian75/status/1317407018215460871

tootyfruitypickle · 20/10/2020 18:30

Lisa Nandy has tweeted that as Boris was blustering , MPs were on the phone to Hancock being told it was £22mill ...

ChaosContinues · 20/10/2020 18:33

@cathyandclare why is JVT embarrassing?
Not unusual to shorten in that way.

Justajot · 20/10/2020 18:37

If this us the quality of our government's negotiations, it's no wonder the Brexit negotiations are going so badly.