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Which prime minister would you want in charge at the moment?

309 replies

Xuli · 22/09/2020 19:30

You can chose any PM from recent memory, say about the 1979s.

After a convo with DH this morning we agreed that Blair might have managed this crisis the best, not that it's probably a great bunch to choose from...

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derxa · 23/09/2020 07:39

Another one staggered at the support for Thatcher. Did you live through the winter of discontent?

Xuli · 23/09/2020 07:40

There's two criteria for what we want in a PM at the moment, though, and I don't think anyone fits both.

Thatcher would probably be best at the pandemic - strong decisions, unpopular decisions, closing borders early etc, she'd keep the numbers low

But she wouldn't manage the unemployment and the recession well afterwards in terms of looking after people, in which case a Blair or a Brown would be better

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RaspberrySkies · 23/09/2020 07:43

" I admire Thatcher as a strong leader who knew what she wanted and stuck to it, but I think in the long term her kind of government would have caused untold pain for the 'working' class"

They did @Xuli Hmm

jakeyboy1 · 23/09/2020 07:45

Has anyone said Churchill??

RaspberrySkies · 23/09/2020 07:45

Jacinda A or Barack O

CherryPavlova · 23/09/2020 07:45

I find it hard to imagine the support for Thatcher. Given the negative impact on so many. Dreadful times for the majority.

derxa · 23/09/2020 07:51

She would have been rubbing her hands with glee at a virus doing her dirty work for her. She was an exceptionally heartless and cruel PM. hyperbole

CaraDuneRedux · 23/09/2020 07:57

Not Thatcher - her monetarist economics would have been a disaster in the current circumstances. I'd rather have Major.

I think I'd favour Brown over Blair, because there was always the air of the slick people-pleaser about Blair which makes me think he wouldn't be the right person to make the correct decisions in a crisis.

Failing those, could we borrow Angela Merkel?

TartanDMs · 23/09/2020 07:57

Much as I hate to admit it as she decimated the livelihoods of my family members by pit closure, Maggie would have been best for her scientific knowledge and willingness to listen to fellow scientists. I am conflicted about her because she was a good role model for 80s girls - look, a female PM, girls can do anything - but obviously she had very different ideals to my family and to the ones I now hold.

Blair would also have been good, he did crisis very well apart from the illegal war element.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 23/09/2020 08:05

Probably Blair. I left the Labour party over the Iraq war but that aside, he was a strong PM.

I understand the support for Thatcher on this point. She would have been able to listen to the science.

middleager · 23/09/2020 08:15

I'd take any from Major, Smith, Thatcher, Brown, Blair.

ItalianHat · 23/09/2020 08:19

You can chose any PM from recent memory, say about the 1970s

Well, some of us can remember back to Harold Wilson, but casual MN ageism aside, I want

Angela Merkel.

MrsWooster · 23/09/2020 08:22

ABJ -anyone but Johnson.
Gordon Brown but pragmatically Blair as the popular ‘face’ and Brown in charge of the economy.

Frazzled2207 · 23/09/2020 08:24

Blair or Brown
Then probably Cameron over May. I think May has the right idea generally but isn’t a strong enough personality to keep her sparring party in line

1moreRep · 23/09/2020 08:47

Thatcher, she couldn't have been that bad and she is qualified

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/09/2020 08:57

I would like Maggie in charge of the actual battle against corona for her decision, leadership and scientific literacy, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want her in charge of the economic package.
I can’t see her signing off furlough, protection from eviction, or any of the other things Rishi has put in place. She was an ideologue and now is not the time for commitment to the free market at her level.

Kisforkaylied · 23/09/2020 09:02

Can I live in a fantasy world where there was a labour government and have Neil Kinnock or Keir Starmer? Or taking it one step further & having Margaret Beckett?

Agree with Blair and Thatcher (even though her name was a dirty word in my house!)

PeskyRooks · 23/09/2020 09:08

Another vote for Brown.
Can anyone be bothered to count the votes? Like to see who wins.
Never Thatcher btw anyone choosing that evil old cow can't remember her as PM.

LuluJakey1 · 23/09/2020 09:12

Blair
Brown

Anyone but Johnson or Cameron or May

Teresa May was a terrible communicator. Cameron was a smug, cowardly, shit.

LuluJakey1 · 23/09/2020 09:13

@1moreRep

Thatcher, she couldn't have been that bad and she is qualified
She was terrible. We still suffer the effects of her policies- especially housing.
ssd · 23/09/2020 09:19

Yes she sold off all the council housing, that's why we have such a crisis in housing, affordable housing for families. I grew up in a council house and all our neighbours bought theirs and made a lot of money and felt very smug. I don't agree with buying council houses and wouldn't let a certain family member buy ours. Now that house is still being rented by a family of 6 at an affordable price. In Scotland NS banned the selling of council houses, thank god. Its criminal what Thatcher did, though of course if you have a nice inheritance or money in the bank needing a council house won't affect you and you won't see the problem. But thousands are suffering today because of it.

Kpo58 · 23/09/2020 09:48

Thatcher would probably try and get rid of the NHS and change to an American style health system.

EnglishGirlApproximately · 23/09/2020 09:50

Anyone who thinks Thatcher couldn't have been that bad should take a trip around the ex mining towns that still haven't recovered. For clarity, the mines absolutely did need to change and weren't sustainable as they were but the mass unemployment created still has an impact today.

FraughtwithGin · 23/09/2020 09:52

Churchill or Margaret Thatcher
I think the UK needs straight talking, not jabbering, contradictions and u-turns.

TressiliansStone · 23/09/2020 09:58

Those saying Thatcher would have acted more closely on the science...

I'm old enough to remember vividly her (first) U-turn on environmentalism. She had been in power 10 years and had been adamantly denying the problems of acid rain, the hole in the ozone layer, and global warming.

Then she opened her trap in 1989 and made a speech at the Royal Society warning of climate change and environmental dangers.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22069768

The people with whom I was working at the time were very pleased that she'd deigned to tell us what we'd been telling her(!), although rather floored by her chutzpah.

Just checking that date now, I learn she made another U-turn in her later years, under the influence of right-wing think tanks which claimed environmentalism was a socialist plot.
theecologist.org/2018/oct/17/who-drove-thatchers-climate-change-u-turn

Another incident I remember from the Thatcher years was some much-touted report by an "independent" committee of scientists who'd been brought in to "advise" the government on some hot button issue (environment or nuclear power or the like, can't remember detail). I'd been slightly surprised the report had supported the government's position, but thought, "Well they must know best."

A few months later, I found myself talking to one of the authors. He told me the the "independent" committee had been locked in a room and told, "We're not dictating what you should say, but the government's position is X and you'll be staying there until your conclusion matches it."

Clearly the following the science came a poor second to political dogma with Thatcher.