Would you report your local pub if they weren't following covid guidelines?

[CoffeeandPastries]

Hi,

Just that really.

Ours seemed to be taking all necessary precautions when first reopening, but now it doesn't really do anything.

Staff aren't wearing masks or visors, tables aren't regularly cleaned and there's no SD at all really. The one way system has been abandoned completely, even by the staff - including the manager. In fact, I've seen the manager all over some of his customers, just like before covid.

Basically, it is business as usual, with a few bits of safety tape scattered around and a couple of broken hand sanitisers on the walls. No encouragement to use them or to SD.

How is yours doing? Would you report if it was like ours?..

I wouldn't report it, but I wouldnt go there either.

As previous poster said I wouldn’t report it but I also wouldn’t go if I didn’t feel comfortable. I too am pretty much back to usual when I go to restaurants/shops, I keep distance but I’m not hysterical about things.

At this point we have to all accept our own responsibility for our own hygiene, if there are things on offer than they can’t force People to use them but the option is there and as adults people shouldn’t have to be told. To be quite honest I don’t even read signs any more I know what’s required And I’m over being told what to do.

Also those customers maybe there more frequently and therefore comfortable with close interaction. In terms of masks they’re not legally required by staff and science shows they’re in effective anyway. I think it’s important not to judge too much, if you don’t like it don’t go.

Hmm I think we'll avoid for now. It's never been our favourite pub, but because it's our local, we felt we should support them, especially after all this, but they need to get their act together.

We went to the pub just 2 or 3 minutes up the road and it couldn't be more different. Sign in on arrival, screens up, one way system, all staff using visors, tables spaced out, table service only. It's like you've gone to another world.

It's strange, because the landlord at our local was initially doing so much to raise money for the NHS and local food banks and would be posting reguarly on their FB page about the importance of SD etc. It was pretty much as soon as food was back on, all guidelines went out the window.

Just vote with your feet and don't go OP. Leave it for the people who want to get back to normal.

I would report it actually. The guidance is there for a very good reason and all pubs and restaurants should be following it.

It’s fine saying ‘vote with your feet’ and just not go there - thereby keeping you and your family safe. But if lots of other local people are going and potentially caching COVID then everyone else in the area is at increased risk when those very people go to the supermarket, post office etc and spread it.

Disagree with previous posters complacency. I work on an nhs ward where we were exposed in the early days thanks to poor testing. We had ppe on, but not for confirmed cases. So a patient would be with us having been supposedly tested negative, we would reswab on arrival and be nursing with gloves, mask and apron. We would then be notified they previous test was defective, or our test had come back +ve, whatever. We then had to increase ppe and barrier the room whilst we nursed until the patient could be moved to a Covid ward.

We were a tested. Several developed symptoms, some severely. One off for 8 weeks now having intense voice/lung therapy. Some families caught it. One in ICU.

What was shocking was the large number of staff who no symptoms at all, who had antibodies. So we asymptomatic carriers. The sd measures are to protect others.

Locally, we have had 4 people test positive, having visited 3 pubs. Media appeal because landlords did all the right things but people left incorrect untraceable details. So if these people are no wandering around asymptomatic, transmitting...

Either just go and speak to the pub, or make an anonymous call to public health. I think the gov. UK website has I go about who you can report concerns to.

It's everyone's responsibility. It breaks my heart my patients can't see their families but the pub 100 metres away is full

Arghh typos, I'm on phone. You get the gist

I would report it. This is just the kind of thing that leads to increased risk of community transmission. I hope none of those working there have kids who are at school....

Phone the police

I would report it. Do not remotely care what risks other people feel comfortable with taking, but I feel quite strongly about not having my area put into local lockdown if there's an outbreak traced back to pubs.

No. I wouldn't report them. Who would you actually report them to anyway?
There are a couple of Marston pubs near us that seem more relaxed than the others but I think they are following the guidelines such as the are. There's only one local pub that I've seen the staff wearing masks so I thought that was just their choice, rather than a rule.

No. No. No.

What's with all the wannabe informants these days? If you don't like it, vote with your feet. Pubs have had a hard enough time.

@annabel85

Phone the police

They will tell you nicely to get lost. Isn't their issue. It's the council licensing.....latest assessment are 90% of pubs are in breach as they are pretty much impossible to follow rigidly.

”Pubs have had a hard enough time”
And they’ll have an even harder time if they get locked down again due to a local spike in cases.
They need to follow the safety guidelines in order to keep staff and patrons as safe as possible. If they are wilfully neglecting to do this then they should be reported imo.

Of course I would. If pubs/restaurants don’t want to be penalised then they need to make sure they follow what’s put in place.

And the people not following guidelines in the pubs because they themselves are low risk will probably all be whining in a few weeks when there’s a local lockdown or the schools shut down 😂

@roarfeckingroarr I know! All these snitches.
Divide and conquer and all that...

[quote Ghostlyglow]@roarfeckingroarr I know! All these snitches.
Divide and conquer and all that...[/quote]
Pathetic. We all need to be taking responsibility otherwise March will happen pdq again. Then the pubs and schools etc will be closed again.

No I wouldn’t either, if you’re uncomfortable don’t go.

@Bluntness100

No I wouldn’t either, if you’re uncomfortable don’t go.

It's not just about being 'uncomfortable' with the individual risk to yourself, though, is it? It's about being 'uncomfortable' with the idea of pub spread -> community transmission -> local lockdowns if one of those "I'm all right Jack" customers has the bad luck to be infectious one day.

Feel free to call me a snitch and a telltale and a meanie, but I really don't want to end up in lockdown again for the sake of a pubowner who can't be bothered.

The more young people get it the quicker we will get to herd immunity. Let them get on with it.

Nope.

I would avoid.

I'd tell my friends and family so they can make their own decision.

I'd be avoiding them if I knew they still went though!

But cases in my area are very low.

If cases suddenly rose or I knew of cases linked to pub then I would consider if keeping quiet was in best interests.

I'm not sure what I'd decide but my viewpoint would differ.

Avoid but I wouldn't report. Staff don't have to wear masks (they have to be allowed to if they want) they can't make people use sanitizer. As long as the tables are set apart 2m min facing another person at a different table, back to back is ok, and it's table service plus they are wiped down between customers the council will ignore your complaint. Customers wandering about the wrong way etc isn't something that can be legislated for

they can't make people use sanitizer.

minnieok Yes they can. They can quite easily refuse to admit entry to anyone who doesn’t sanitise.