Can nursery require quarantine beyond govt rules?

[GrinchTastic]

Just that really - we are going to Ireland, which has never been subject to any quarantine restrictions as it is in a Common Travel Area with the UK, and isn’t part of any air bridges or anything like that. Nursery said yesterday they are asking parents to quarantine for 14 days when returning from “overseas”. I wonder if they haven’t realised that Ireland is in a different boat to Greece/Germany/Italy etc by virtue of the CTA.

We’re also sailing into Northern Ireland, but back from Dublin.

Just wondering what the position is, or if anyone can offer any advice.

Thanks!

And I know other parents who have gone to NI (perhaps without mentioning/being asked where they are going) so the blanket rule on “overseas” doesn’t seem to apply there either.

I feel like many posters are revealing themselves to be pretty incapable of assessing and balancing risk, as well as understanding the particular position Ireland and NI have within the CTA.

It’s nothing to do with people not understanding the CTA, it’s quite clear that it’s you not being capable of understanding that the Nursery can make their own guidelines about travel/quarantine rules to protect the children they care for and their staff. You’re right to a holiday does not trump their protective rules. It’s simple, if you don’t like it, find another nursery.

@GrinchTastic

Like I said, no rules have been issued. They haven’t issued any policy or enquired where people are going on holidays.

How do you know they haven't enquired where people have been going when it's been needed? Have you spoken to every single parent?

If every parent says "Wee Bob won't be in for a week because we're going to Ireland/Spain/Granny's house in Cornwall" then they don't need to enquire because they've been told.

They've told you if you leave UK and go overseas you need to quarantine when you get back so that's what you have to do.

How do you know they haven't enquired where people have been going when it's been needed? Have you spoken to every single parent?

Because I have three close friends who use the same nursery and who’ve been on holiday recently, none of whom have been asked.

This thread is pointless. You clearly don't think the rules apply to you and have no intention of following them

Just don't be whinging when other people also don't follow nursery rules and closures follow

Maybe they are changing their rules following what has recently happened with Spain and Greater Manchester etc and seeing the rates increase. This will happening everywhere places reacting to the current circumstances

I don’t know what the point of this is, you only want to hear that you’re right

@GrinchTastic

I mean, I could just email them back and say “oh we’ve changed our plans, and decided to go to the Lake District instead”.

I don’t want to do that, but that’s what they’re going to be tempting people to do if they are imposing quarantine requirements over and above govt guidance and rules.

If you re-arrange to travel back from NI, you can legitimately say 'Oh we changed plans and will be coming back from within the UK'

Jings- but those aren't the official rules. They don't have to quarantine. Thirds two situations have affected my own family directly in recent weeks. They didn't have time to quarantine before either event.

They came, visited, stayed a night and returned home and to their jobs the next day. Twice.

They weren't being selfish.
They followed the official rules, not done made up rules from a business or those made up be Mumsnetters.

The original poster of that quote suggested it was selfish to do so. I disagree.

And many parts of England are not riddled with Covid either.

Why are you happy to quarantine in Ireland to protect the Irish community, but unhappy to quarantine in the U.K. to protect your community?

And if they are Going to implement such a rule of their own making surely it should apply to all higher risk things rather than just choosing one.

Is going on a ferry to a private cabin and then back to own car to a home to stay in private accommodation following restricted movements really any more dangerous than going to a crowded English beach or having a drink at your local pub?

It's not really is it if we actually think about it.

Why are you happy to quarantine in Ireland to protect the Irish community, but unhappy to quarantine in the U.K. to protect your community?

I’m happy (and plan) to follow the government rules and guidelines, in both countries.

Are you aware of the different infection rates between Ireland and GB? It’s not comparing like with like.

Have you actually had a definitive answer from the nursery? Have they told you that you have to quarantine?

If not -then stop frothing about something that might not happen
If so- send your kid anyway (and then wait for the call that they have a temp and you need to come and get em)

Of course they can; they can accept and decline any child they want to. They’re a business after all, not a charity.

Update: the nursery manager emailed to say she didn’t realise about the Common Travel Area and we wouldn’t need to keep DS away on our return. All’s well that ends well! I’m glad I queried it though

Thanks to everyone for comments and advice.

Froth over then! Goodo

Glad that there has been a satisfactory outcome. Sad that someone else (nursery) was unaware about the Republic of Ireland.