'Has went'- where has 'gone'... gone?!

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When did this start?

I keep seeing it everywhere. I've seen it so much I'm beginning to say and type it.

It is 'she went to the shop' or 'she has gone to the shop'. What is this unholy matrimony of two tenses at once? It's like putting pasta on pizza!

If she hadn't gone today (I nearly typed 'went'!), she could have gone tomorrow!

Notes: Complete conjugation of the verb to go here with all the technical names - conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-english-verb-go.html

I know! It is so strange, and I'm pretty sure it didn't exist 10 years ago. Like you, I am really confused about where it suddenly came from.

Both DH and I have been wondering this too. Why on earth have people stopped using ‘gone’?

I think it’s a Geordie (& possibly other North East) dialect thing and people writing how they would talk.

See we thought it was a geordie thing. But you hear it all over the place these days. It’s not just Geordies doing it.

The earliest I can remember seeing it is about eighteen months ago. Could be less time than that.

In real life, I'm noticing my children doing it with other verbs, to produce atrocities like 'he has wrote down the answers'. They didn't always do it! What happened recently and who's to blame?

Oh, another one is “I have took” rather than taken..

A pasta topped pizza sounds good to me tbh.

Language is becoming more fluid as the world gets smaller, regional idioms and dialects become more prevalent and widespread and things get muddy and mixed. I've also found being with a dyslexic DP and working with children excluded from mainstream education who have little grasp of language has made me more aware of language as a whole and how elitist it can be. As long as the point gets across that is enough in normal, everyday situations.

Pedants Corner might be your home though.

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A pasta topped pizza sounds good to me tbh.

Language is becoming more fluid as the world gets smaller, regional idioms and dialects become more prevalent and widespread and things get muddy and mixed. I've also found being with a dyslexic DP and working with children excluded from mainstream education who have little grasp of language has made me more aware of language as a whole and how elitist it can be. As long as the point gets across that is enough in normal, everyday situations.

Pedants Corner might be your home though.

Oh, I think this isn't really weighty enough for Pedants' Corner, enjoy it though I do.

If we were in a more weighty arena, I might trouble to tell you how bloody offensive it is that in any discussion of linguistics, cultural linguistic changes that have absolutely nothing to do with dyslexia or any other learning disability or communication impairment get fobbed off on us.

But this isn't, so I won't.

I've never seen this .

I don't like usage of 'gotten' but it may well be that this is a regional thing .

I have never seen or heard this

A colleague of mine used to use it in the mid noughties and it used to drive me up the wall. It’s much more common now. I suppose it’s the natural end point of was sat or needs done.

Blame football pundits and commentators. They have talked like this for years. They have invented their own tense and it infuriated me.

This is meant to be a vaguely lighthearted thread, but I confess this is something that rather gets my goat. No-one seems to get how frustrating it is that there is still little understanding for communication issues that are actually caused by disabilities (apart from other people with disabilities that have impaired communication), but the disability card is used with ease on subjects that have nothing whatsoever to do with them!

Maybe it has to be a hashtag: #PeopleWithDisabilitiesAreNotYourHumanShield?

Anyway...

Lostnameperson 'I have took', eh? There is a consistent pattern then.

Are people internalising 'went' as a past participle for to go and then harmonizing other irregular verbs to go (snurk) with it?

Oh god I hate this.
My cousin always says 'I should've went to the shop' or ' weve all went for a walk 3 timea this week'
It makes me want to murder someone

I’ve suddenly noticed it on here for some reason.

Was and were for me.

They was going to the shop.

Never heard this. North west. Would drive me mad.
I have a friend from Kent who says I done eg I done the cleaning today. No idea where this comes from either

"Gifted" is the one that irritates me. What was wrong with "I was given..."?

Never heard this in Ireland

I'm really bad with speaking in grammatically incorrect ways unless I am trying. I know they are incorrect and would never write like it, but it's stuck...

"I seen it yesterday"

"They was there"

"There weren't anybody there"

"I don't want no breakfast"

"If she hadn't went yesterday, she could have gone today" (yes I will switch between the two even in the same sentence)

This is meant to be a vaguely lighthearted thread

These threads are hardly ever lighthearted. They often start off claiming to be but descend into something else entirely. As long as you’ve stated lighthearted though, it must be ok.

A lot of people in the west of Scotland use this kind of construction and don't even realise it's wrong. Another one is "I've saw".

Sorry, not "I've saw"....the other way "I seen".

Ah, that reminds me. I've seen I seen and I done far more often on FB this year than I used to. It's always been around but not as much. (In fact, they're a staple of written speech in vintage literature when there are working class characters and the author is writing demeaning dialogue for them. Typically servants.)

So people (different people? the same people?) are adding a superfluous has/have/'ve/'d' in sentences like I went to Tesco,* but the necessary has/have etc is being omitted in sentences like I've seen that on offer in Tesco.

Are they connected changes, or just happening to occur at the same time?

*Other supermarkets are available

"to go to" has also disappeared.

I need to go to Tesco.

vs

I need to go Tesco.