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Nurses to get 4.4%pay rise.

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crosser62 · 21/07/2020 06:51

I’ve calculated that this will equate to an extra £90 a month for me after tax.
That will cover my monthly parking fees at work then.
What’s the fucking point?

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ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 21/07/2020 08:34

it should only apply to those who were genuinely front line, not receptionists, managers etc.

This is such a shitty attitude. This pay rise isn't a reward for COVID. It's part of a pay deal that has been phased in over 3 years. Why would managers or admin deserve less of an increase than any other staff? The NHS has had poor pay deals since 2010, so pay has fallen for NHS workers in real terms since then. Staff deserve better pay and conditions across the board, regardless of COVID.

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 21/07/2020 08:36

But, having said all that, I dont think the OP should be publicly complaining about a rise in the current climate. I think this post is intended to be goady tbh.

eyeblob · 21/07/2020 08:40

I'm not saying nurses don't deserve that and more but no inflation busting pay rise for social care and carers as usual who also provide care for vulnerable and the sick including Covid 19.

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hippoherostandinghere · 21/07/2020 08:46

I thought the third increment of the AFC pay deal was in April 2020. Not 2021. Can anyone link where it's says theres another one in 2021?

ReceptacleForTheRespectable · 21/07/2020 08:49

You're right hippo - it is the third part of the existing deal

drinkingwineoutofamug · 21/07/2020 08:52

@hippoherostandinghere . Found this . Hope you can see it. Basically over the past couple of years nurses have been having this 4.4% pay raise. Those of us that are really lucky in April get our last 1%. So it's over 3 years.

Nurses to get 4.4%pay rise.
hippoherostandinghere · 21/07/2020 08:55

So we've been on the third point since March? I can't see how we're due another rise?

hippoherostandinghere · 21/07/2020 08:55

Sorry, April.

wildcherries · 21/07/2020 09:01

@Beeorwasp

I’d swap your minuscule pay rise for my job loss. How ungrateful.
Yep. Seems a goady thread to be starting at this time.
user1471462428 · 21/07/2020 09:02

They had to give us a pay rise otherwise junior nurses wouldn’t be getting the living wage by 2025. I’ve just left nursing, I qualified 12 years and I was the last of my uni friends still nursing. Years of being treated like shit and the general public in the middle of a pandemic are still bitching about our poxy wages. I get more on universal credit than I did working and risking my life.

Murraygoldberg · 21/07/2020 09:07

Nurses are not getting a pay rise. There was a 3 year deal already in progress and that's what is getting banded about, no new money, nothing to do with covid

motherrunner · 21/07/2020 09:16

The reporting of the pay increase in general I think is misreported.

I’m a teacher I will supposedly get the ‘biggest’ increase. This pay increase was also promised pre-Covid in January and will need to come out if school budgets so some teachers may not get a pay rise at all, especially as budgets now have to take into consideration enhance safety measures.

After 7 years of pay freezes and increased pension contributions I’m still worse off in real terms. I’m not complaining, I never went into teaching for the money (ha!) I just think the reporting is another smokescreen for Government incompetences.

EThreepwood · 21/07/2020 09:20

Just going to leave this here:

twitter.com/HouseofCommons/status/1285314836386242565?s=19

Funny how they are announcing the pay rise but no mention of this...

Iggly · 21/07/2020 09:27

It isn't a race to the bottom and everyone should feel valued in their job including salary. But at a time like this where we are facing mass unemployment with very few jobs openings it is insensitive to be moaning about a pay rise meaning that you are £90 better a month

It very much is when people pile in saying “whataboutwhatabout”

For those who have lost their jobs, at least we have a (thin and threadbare) safety net. What about those who live in countries that don’t?

There’s always someone worse off.

So instead of pointing it out and fighting each other, let’s turn and face those who’ve helped to make the economy as precarious as it is.

Luddite26 · 21/07/2020 11:20

Turn and face them iggly - it's being on mumsnet that makes you see who voted for them!

Potionqueen · 21/07/2020 11:34

Nurses are not getting 4.4% pay rise this year. As other pps have stated nurses are still locked into the 3 year AFC supposed pay increase. This saw junior nurses going through increments quicker and experienced nurses getting 1% over 3 years.
Nurses are getting noir extra this year.

Potionqueen · 21/07/2020 11:34

Should be nowt not noir!!!

missyB1 · 21/07/2020 11:42

THERE IS NO PAY RISE FOR NURSES!!

Sorry to shout but people need to stop believing that the nurses are getting a rise - they really aren’t.

KenAdams · 21/07/2020 12:44

The salary review for my sector came out last week. I'm being paid £11k under the public sector average for my public sector role. So yeah, can't really see how you're complaining in the current climate.

GuyFawkesDay · 21/07/2020 12:49

I'm a teacher, I fully expect not to see the pay rise as the budgets have already been agreed and frankly, the school is beyond skint.

But I went into teaching for the fame and glory so it's all good 😂😂😂

ineedaholidaynow · 21/07/2020 12:51

My DH has taken 10% pay cut as have all managers in his company to save costs to try and ensure they don’t have to make anyone redundant.

ineedaholidaynow · 21/07/2020 12:53

@GuyFawkesDay the awful thing is that if schools do honour the pay rise they will probably have to make some teachers redundant so they can afford to pay others the increase.

covidco · 21/07/2020 12:56

Trust me EricLove123 there are plenty of redundancies happening in the NHS. Our trust has just put several departments on notice.

EricLove123 · 21/07/2020 13:20

@covidco Plenty? Where do you work? The 3 NHS trusts I work with, i've not known a redundancy in the over 20 years i've been working. There are always jobs available and even if there weren't in a specific trust, there is no reason to ever be out of work with an NMC reg, other trusts, private hospitals, bank, agency..

There's not an NHS trust i've heard of which doesn't spend a massive amount of their budget on bank/agency staff.

It's on hold due to CV but the NHS spends a hell of a lot of money recruiting nurses from abroad because we. don't. have. enough.

If you've got a nursing reg, unless you seriously fuck up and get struck off, you'll have a job for life.

And even if unlucky enough to work in an area with redundancies (very rare), you'll never just walk into work one day and told your jobs gone and to go home. Which happens frequently in the private sector, and there may be no other jobs in that sector.

PhilCornwall1 · 21/07/2020 14:17

@crosser62

I’ve calculated that this will equate to an extra £90 a month for me after tax. That will cover my monthly parking fees at work then. What’s the fucking point?
A better position than a lot of others many who've been made redundant so have lost their income.

And I know my pay rise this year will be the square root of fuck all, if I still have a job by then.

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